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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLet's be clear about one thing...
If insurrectionists attack the Capitol in August,
And if they burned every federal building to the ground,
And if they killed every sitting member of both houses of Congress,
And if they assasinated Joe Biden and Kamala Harris,
Donald Trump will still not be President of the United States.
msfiddlestix
(7,703 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,695 posts)And it does not include Donald Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession
msfiddlestix
(7,703 posts)Regardless, point taken. But, you can better believe come hell or high water, he'd be installed rather quickly given the state of our broken democracy.
The point is our democracy is almost shattered, maybe not completely but too close for comfort and just barely hanging by a thread.
That's how it feels, how it looks, and how events are rolling out on a daily basis.
What we need is a formidable response, a plan of action, and some level of unanimity/agreement on the state of affairs actually are, fact based and reality driven.
No pretending that a coup couldn't possibly happen here. Because now we know that was a pipe dream most of us had.
it's dangerous and self destructive.
Mr.Bill
(24,695 posts)the members of the Cabinet.
msfiddlestix
(7,703 posts)And Sociopaths don't give a rat's ass about Constitutional line of succession.
They don't give a rats about anything other than their own power. Laws, rules, protocols, traditions all be damned.
The big lesson on Jan 6th, 2021 demonstrated that in one day, following four + years (to include the year of campaigning in 2016);
We lived through five years of watching it all get gas lit, and burned down. Jan. 6th was the most profound, and it came very very close to a successful coup. It failed, but just.
If the takeaway is everything stayed in tact and we're good to move on, that's the wrong lesson.
just sayin;....
PortTack
(34,289 posts)PortTack
(34,289 posts)Blanks
(4,835 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,695 posts)is very bad timing for the scenario I laid out in my OP. For one thing, Congress won't even be in session and most members won't even be in town.
msfiddlestix
(7,703 posts)Sociopaths are above the law, the laws of the land do not apply to them. When Sociopaths are part of a cult that has gained the level of traction, strength and support from Justice and the Military he and his followers/supporters/enablers, it's a foregone conclusion.
Lines of succession as spelled out in the Constitution matters not a wit.
Mr.Bill
(24,695 posts)Blanks
(4,835 posts)If a similar assault is attempted, this administration will be ready.
Pelosi, Schumer & Pence were trying to summon reinforcements, but Trump stacked the deck to prevent a response. The Republican governor of Maryland tried to send the national guard, Trumps guy at DOD wouldnt approve it.
The overthrow the government ship sailed when Trump exited Air Force one in Florida. Trump may be in federal prison in August.
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)Ever.
fwvinson
(488 posts)and be done with it. But, still, good point.