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Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:30 PM May 2021

States that do not require background checks could be looking into the abyss..

At some point I would think law suits would start to proliferate against states that do not do background checks when selling guns.. People on the right start chitter chattering about how places that have strict gun controls can have so many violent actions with guns, without ever mentioning where people go to buy guns..

Most gun violence is from within from our own population, but just to add insult to injury, foreign terrorist's do not bring in their own guns, because they are so easy to buy here.

At some point, people who have suffered losses and injuries due to un-traced guns from states who are too busy to even do a background check .. are going to sue the shorts off of state governments or gun shops..

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SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
1. Guess Who Pays For The Lawsuits?
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:37 PM
May 2021

The public does. We do. It sure as shit ain't the agencies that will get sued.

It's all a bunch of bullshit, and we're a Fucked Up Country.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
2. Apparently we cannot get through to people on a moral standard.. maybe if we hit them in the
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:46 PM
May 2021

pocketbook.. they would vote in people who would put and or keep background checks in place instead of kneeling before the Russian backed NRA..

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
6. Call me a dreamer if you want.. its better than throwing our hands up in the air and saying there
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:49 PM
May 2021

is nothing we can do about it..

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
8. I'm At That Point
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:54 PM
May 2021

I'm on your side, and admire your will to fight. But I've accepted what this country is, and do not expect it to ever change. I wish it would, but I have thrown in the towel. It's a lost cause in my opinion.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
9. I absolutely understand.. I have hit that point more than once
Wed May 26, 2021, 02:00 PM
May 2021

but for what ever reason, this morning, after this last shooting in CA and all the debate over Texas the last week or so, something snapped.. and I am geared up and ready to take the fight to the courts. Honest to God David, I have come to the sad conclusion that people care more about money than they do people, and you can get to them quicker through the hole in the pocket than the righteous moral argument..

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
11. Those On The Right Don't Even Care About Human Life
Wed May 26, 2021, 02:03 PM
May 2021

The last 15 months have demonstrated that. They're willing to DIE for their beliefs and cult member status.

These people don't care about money. They would rather spend whatever little money they have, to purchase more and more weapons of war. They value that much more than a few bucks.

Sorry, I'll go now. I get this way every time there's one of these incidents, and it's not healthy. I honestly feel like if those prominent people who are fighting, like David Hogg, can't make any headway, there's little I can do.

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
3. Laws have been passed to protect them from just such liability
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:46 PM
May 2021

Laws that prevent firearms from being traced, laws that prevent statistics of gun violence from being compiled...much like the way Big-Ag has laws passed to make reporting on their pollution or animal cruelty illegal.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
5. If laws get passed one way, they can be passed another.. sue them into the next century and
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:48 PM
May 2021

see how quickly the average voter changes their tune

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
7. Agreed...Dems simply have to take back the state houses from ALEC and their ilk
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:49 PM
May 2021

We did here in Nevada, but right now our state government is busy trying not to look too Democratic. Given it's libertarian mindset and the fact that our legislature only meets every other year the state is not one I would choose for passing new gun control legislation.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
10. Wishing the best for Nevada!!.. if we could stop the take over by the despots
Wed May 26, 2021, 02:01 PM
May 2021

with the removal of Trump, we can do anything!!

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
13. There are exceptions... all things are possible.. do not give up
Wed May 26, 2021, 02:21 PM
May 2021

Co-authored by Clinton M. Sandvick, JD, PhD
Last Updated: April 14, 2020 References Approved

It is not easy to sue a state government. Generally, a state is immune from lawsuits. This is called “sovereign immunity,” and it prevents you from being able to bring a lawsuit even when a state injures you. However, there are some exceptions to a state’s sovereign immunity. For example, the state might allow people to sue for personal injuries caused by the state.[1] Also, you can sue state employees for violations of your federal constitutional rights. In order to sue a state government correctly, you should meet with an attorney who can advise you about the specific process.

NickB79

(19,243 posts)
14. Every state requires a gun dealer to conduct a background check at time of sale
Wed May 26, 2021, 03:23 PM
May 2021

It's part of the federal 1994 Brady Act.

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