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(4,448 posts)
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:25 AM May 2021

We need to be building redundant fuel pipelines -PRONTO

It's shame that Trump let our infrastructure diminish that one shutdown kills an entire region.

That is just criminal behavior of Trump.

Perhaps our new infrastructure bill we can get a few more pipelines built.

We have ZERO gas (central NC) where I am and we just shutdown our mobile business.

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We need to be building redundant fuel pipelines -PRONTO (Original Post) fescuerescue May 2021 OP
No, we need to drastically cut back on our dependence on fossil fuels. thucythucy May 2021 #1
That's fine too fescuerescue May 2021 #2
Nothing can be done quickly, thucythucy May 2021 #3
We've had fifty years to do it. Ron Green May 2021 #4
Thank you!!! GoCubsGo May 2021 #5
i'm thinking corporations beef up their IT security. KG May 2021 #6
Well I've been preaching that for 20 years fescuerescue May 2021 #9
Or move quicker to electric cars? kentuck May 2021 #7
that would be great to fescuerescue May 2021 #8


(8,029 posts)
1. No, we need to drastically cut back on our dependence on fossil fuels.
Thu May 13, 2021, 12:04 PM
May 2021

And also beef up our cyber security so this doesn't happen again.

Building more highways, pipelines, drilling for more petroleum, it's all just pouring good money after bad.

By all means invest in existing transportation infrastructure, but anything built from scratch has to steer us away from our dead-end reliance on fossil fuels.


(4,448 posts)
2. That's fine too
Thu May 13, 2021, 12:12 PM
May 2021

Although I can't think of an easy way to eliminate half our gasoline cars quickly. (while doubling up our electrical generating capacity)


(8,029 posts)
3. Nothing can be done quickly,
Thu May 13, 2021, 12:16 PM
May 2021

including building more pipelines.

Which is why it's important to start building better infrastructure now.

If Jimmy Carter had been re-elected forty years ago we might be there by now.


(32,067 posts)
5. Thank you!!!
Thu May 13, 2021, 12:17 PM
May 2021

Instead of another damn pipeline, how about a high-speed rail line? Or, a network of charging stations for electric vehicles? We don't need anymore stinking pipelines. We need to set up the means to get rid of the ones we already have. Enough, already!


(4,448 posts)
9. Well I've been preaching that for 20 years
Reply to KG (Reply #6)
Thu May 13, 2021, 01:17 PM
May 2021

2 years ago I helped a NJ public school recover from this same hack. (they paid the ransom)

Im in the Cyber security business. This hack will likely lead to a a good year for this business.

Corporations rarely believe just how massively expensive it is to recover...until it happens to them.

But imagine if an enemy bombed even one pipeline? We wouldn't be back online in a week.


(4,448 posts)
8. that would be great to
Thu May 13, 2021, 01:12 PM
May 2021

Lets get half the gas cars off the road and double up our electrical infrastructure.

Maybe pay everyone $5k per gasoline car?

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