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samsingh

(17,599 posts)
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 08:24 AM Apr 2021

The GOP seem to have given up on Democracy - the sacred principle of 1 person 1 vote


they now completely seem to have given up on American Democracy and have resorted to corrupting the Democratic system by vote rigging, lying, using propaganda like Fox News, being traitors and getting help from foreign adversaries. History has shown that other Democratic countries have failed and given way to authoritarian regimes. I believe the repugs want to take us down that direction.
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The GOP seem to have given up on Democracy - the sacred principle of 1 person 1 vote (Original Post) samsingh Apr 2021 OP
Yes they've tipped their hand and shown us all their cards FakeNoose Apr 2021 #1
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. tanyev Apr 2021 #2
Animal Farm- great book-good reference packman Apr 2021 #10
Sadly, this has been evident for some time dlk Apr 2021 #3
Somehow, they've misunderstood the principle... Hugin Apr 2021 #4
They understood it, but mis-apply it...... lastlib Apr 2021 #20
Both Authoritarian and Radical Free Market governments are not multigraincracker Apr 2021 #5
Even more to the point, they're actively working to take permanent control. Hortensis Apr 2021 #6
I believe you're onto something there, samsingh. jaxexpat Apr 2021 #7
ha ha samsingh Apr 2021 #21
It's turned against them at the ballot box, but more importantly... paleotn Apr 2021 #8
Republican/Nazis can't let liberals and POC vote. Democracy violates their hatred. johnthewoodworker Apr 2021 #9
"Are you now or have ever been disloyal to Trump?" Politicub Apr 2021 #11
They started down that road with Gingrich, DeLay, Rove and Citizens United. ancianita Apr 2021 #12
Certain uppity people aren't fit to vote, in Republican eyes. n/t MrModerate Apr 2021 #13
And they don't believe in equality. ancianita Apr 2021 #14
Seem to? nt KPN Apr 2021 #15
Such has Never Existed in the USA Mad Kirrua Apr 2021 #16
I think their ultimate goal is a Putin style dictatorship. patphil Apr 2021 #17
K&R UCmeNdc Apr 2021 #18
Their new go to line is USAFRetired_Liberal Apr 2021 #19

FakeNoose

(32,642 posts)
1. Yes they've tipped their hand and shown us all their cards
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 08:40 AM
Apr 2021

Now we Democrats and progressives know that we can never allow them lead this country again.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
10. Animal Farm- great book-good reference
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 10:11 AM
Apr 2021

The Repukes should switch from that elephant to a pig

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Hugin

(33,159 posts)
4. Somehow, they've misunderstood the principle...
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 08:44 AM
Apr 2021

Last edited Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:23 AM - Edit history (1)

To them it's one person gets one vote. The rest of us uppity help need to sit down and shut up.

lastlib

(23,243 posts)
20. They understood it, but mis-apply it......
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:56 AM
Apr 2021

to them some of the "people" are still three-fifths of a "man," and half of us aren't men at all. They are still stuck in the 1840s America. Oh, and them "Injun" folks.......

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Even more to the point, they're actively working to take permanent control.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 09:19 AM
Apr 2021

Last edited Mon Apr 26, 2021, 09:50 AM - Edit history (1)

What would happen then, though? They're scarcely in control of themselves and what's happening as their mobs grow crazier and crazier.

Trump would have instituted a strongman dictatorship, supported by the mobs and, more dependably, by RW power blocs, such as wealthy kleptocrats/oligarchs.

Another form that's proven more resilient in former liberal democracies, though, is what's being called a competitive authoritarian regime:

"a type of civilian regime that arose in the post-Cold War era. In a competitive authoritarian regime, "formal democratic institutions exist and are widely viewed as the primary means of gaining power, but ... incumbents' abuse of the state places them at a significant advantage vis-à-vis their opponents."


Of course if the Republicans and their power blocs went this way, they would transform us from our liberal democracy to an IL-liberal democracy. They began their takeover long before Trump and began corrupting our institutions, expanding the powers of the presidency, and packing the courts with their agents in the 1980s-1990s, accelerating greatly in this century.

"An IL-liberal democracy, or procedural democracy, is distinguished from liberal democracy, or substantive democracy, in that illiberal democracies lack features such as the rule of law, protections for minority groups, an independent judiciary and the real separation of power."


There are a lot of other forms and subforms of autocratic government, including extremes like fascism or totalitarianism based on ideology (usually left wing univeralist).

jaxexpat

(6,832 posts)
7. I believe you're onto something there, samsingh.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 09:44 AM
Apr 2021

Did you used to date a gal they called Delilah, back in the day?

paleotn

(17,930 posts)
8. It's turned against them at the ballot box, but more importantly...
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 09:48 AM
Apr 2021

there's limited money in it. Fascism is far more lucrative, if you're the tribe on top.

ancianita

(36,064 posts)
12. They started down that road with Gingrich, DeLay, Rove and Citizens United.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 10:16 AM
Apr 2021

Ended up with pendejo45's mafia, that left in rubble the functioning structures of all experts, professionals and good, committed Americans. Watched him treat the world's leading epidemiologist like a dog and we knew the country would be a wasteland after four more years.

The GOP is a NeoFascist wasteland because they've always bought into power over country.

 

Mad Kirrua

(46 posts)
16. Such has Never Existed in the USA
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 10:59 AM
Apr 2021

The Electoral College is merely one of the numerous examples of this.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
19. Their new go to line is
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:22 AM
Apr 2021

“We aren’t a Democracy, we are a Republic”.....as if we aren’t Democratic Republic

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