He Wasn't Shot, Why Was She?

[ItsjustMe]

[MarineCombatEngineer]

1. ....

[AllTooEasy]

49. I would have shot BOTH of them

Period.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

50. Shot both of them?

Are you talking about the guy who kicked the girl in the head?

[AZSkiffyGeek]

2. I hadn't heard that police were on site and witnessed Rittenhouse shoot anyone

And then didn't do anything while it happened.
Where did you hear that? Because otherwise this is a completely false equivalency.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

4. +100. nt

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

7. THIS

[sop]

9. How about this?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/08/26/video-of-police-ignoring-suspected-kenosha-shooter-sparks-calls-of-injustice/

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

11. Guessing you missed the "arms raised"

?

[sop]

12. Guessing you chose to ignore the first sentence...the part just before "arms raised"

"A video shared to social media shows police appearing to ignore Kyle Rittenhouse after he allegedly shot three people in Kenosha, Wisconsin, as he approached police vehicles with an assault weapon and his arms raised"

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

14. Look at response 10

Explained clearly

[sop]

19. I know, I posted #10

Apparently, the police chief sees nothing wrong with this...do you?

"Kenosha Police Chief Daniel Miskinis says his officers did nothing wrong by failing to stop Rittenhouse after the deadly shooting....Rittenhouse managed to escape the Kenosha Police Department despite witnesses directing officers to the alleged killer and Rittenhouse himself surrendering by walking towards the officers with his hands up...'Clearly, they’re not seeing him as a suspect or a threat of any kind,' the chief police officer said."

(There was a question posed about the OP, expressing the opinion it was a "false equivalency," wanting to know where this was reported. I posted two sourcesmfor this report.)

[AZSkiffyGeek]

15. Oh, I've seen him walking past cops

I asked about cops standing by watching him shoot someone, not stand by watch him walk by.

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

17. So you believe he shot someone and a police officer

Saw him shoot that person and just went

O well

Laughable

[AZSkiffyGeek]

20. No, I don't believe that

I think he shot someone away from the cops, and left the area walking past cops who were coming in to investigate the shooting. I think if he'd done it in front of the cops he'd be dead.

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

21. Exactly

[uponit7771]

43. Not till Rittenhouse **TOLD** them he shot someone and they let him go home

[sop]

10. Or this?

https://thegrio.com/2020/08/29/kenosha-police-ignoring-kyle-rittenhouse/

Mr. Google is your friend.

[Arazi]

16. They were on site but "conveniently" didn't see Kyle murder that guy and maim the others

https://abc7chicago.com/kenosha-shooting-protest-kyle-rittenhouse-video/6393073/

"There were a lot of people in the area, a lot of people with weapons. Unfortunately, a lot of gunfire. What the officers were walking into, or driving into in this case, was a shots fired complaint. Not a shooting, not a person down complaint," Miskinis said. "There was nothing to suggest this person was involved in criminal behavior."

[uponit7771]

25. Good try but Rittenhouse told the police he shot two people himself (link)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kenosha-protesters-killed-teen-kyle-rittenhouse-police-report/

Lol y'all trying y'all's hardest on this shit ain't you

[StarfishSaver]

31. iKR?

[uponit7771]

33. +1, Makai's death is showing the left how much work we have

[AZSkiffyGeek]

35. So are you suggesting they should've shot him at that point?

THEY DIDN'T WITNESS A MURDER HAPPENING!!!! How difficult is it to comprehend linear time?
Should they have arrested him? YES.
Should he have received bail? NO.
Should he rot in prison? ABSOLUTELY.
And if they saw him murdering someone they should have stopped it by any means. THEY WEREN'T THERE WHEN IT HAPPENED.
The cop in Bryant's case showed up and saw someone attempting to murder someone - and took swift action to prevent that from happening.
He didn't know that the girl liked doing hair TikToks, he didn't know she was the one who called (something that has only been confirmed by her aunt), he saw her attack one person, then go after a bystander who wasn't involved. And he took action to prevent a murder.

Would it make you feel better if he showed up a minute later and girl in pink was on the ground in a pool of blood? Because it seems a lot of the sanctimonious crowd making false equivalencies doesn't care about her too much. I've seen it described as a "scuffle" and "It's just a little knife" and "I could've taken her, why didn't the cop try?"

But know one is asking why she was trying to stab a bystander to begin with.

[uponit7771]

39. No, just a black person would've been treated worse than Kyle because of the color of our skin and..

... the witnesses that told the cops about the shooting should've put the cops on notice that he didn't have cause to shoot the first person at the gas station that he was "protecting"

[Sympthsical]

54. Shhh. You're interrupting the Narrative. Also, Oprah may suck.

The Narrative doesn't do facts and examination.

We're about feelings here. If you feel it's true, then it's true.

Related. I have this running theory that Oprah did irreparable damage to American society when she started her shamanistic spiritual, "your truth" thing. That objectivity didn't matter anymore. What you feel is true is true. And she sold that like the dickens. Got us Dr. Phil and Oz along the way.

But this idea. "If I feel this, then this is true."

That's . . . not how that works. Especially on the Left, where we kind of like science and objectivity and actual true things being true.

Nah, if you feel it's true, it's true.

And that has been working super well for us ever since.

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

3. Some just don't get it

Smdh

[sop]

5. Does one really have to ask such a question?

[jimfields33]

8. Different cops and totally different situations

If rittenhouse had the weapon aimed at someone with finger on trigger, he’d be gone.

[Aristus]

13. No, he wouldn't.

The cops would just say: “Don’t do it, son! Don’t do it! Don’t make it worse for yourself. Just put down the rifle and let’s talk.”

They would say it over and over until he did it.

[TraceNC]

26. This just happened.

I still tend to agree with your point, in that it is way more likely to go down that way, but there are cases like this. https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/14/us/peyton-ham-maryland-trooper-shooting/index.html

[Skittles]

52. correct

I do tend to think, however, if Rittenhouse was a black man he would have been taken more seriously.

[sarisataka]

18. If the cops had seen him

Raising the gun to fire, would you have objected if they shot him before he killed anyone. Or would you insist there were many options to de-escalate the situation or less lethal weapons?

[uponit7771]

29. What if he tells a cop he shot two people? Link inside

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kenosha-protesters-killed-teen-kyle-rittenhouse-police-report/

[sarisataka]

32. Then he should be arrested

Not shot. We are still trying to compare before/ after murder situations. They are not the same.

And I do believe the cops blew it badly. If you are responding to a shooting and someone approaches with their arms up saying they shot someone, at least talk to them...

[uponit7771]

37. They don't have to be the same just similar enough to make the point that white people in America

... are treated different than black people when it comes to justified killings by police.

If that kid would've been black he would be shot for having a gun in the first place ... and ... it would have been justified seeing he was carrying it illegally and people were screaming at the cops that he shot someone.

[sarisataka]

42. And if he wasn't threatening anyone

At that moment I would be entirely on the side of those calling for charges.

If the cop in this case rolled up a minute later and simply shot the girl with the knife, while she stood by another dead girl I would call his action murder.

I do not expect police to stand by and watch someone get killed before they decide to do something.

[uponit7771]

46. K, he told the cops he shot someone and witnesses behind him told the cops he murdered a person

... and a judge felt his shooting at the gas station that started the interaction with the crowd wasn't justified.

he was able to go home ... while he presented at the time looking at the totality of the situation ... .....MORE.... than a threat seeing he was underage AND LOOKED IT carrying a long gun in the middle of the freakin night.

People are stretching and it doesn't look good

[sarisataka]

53. I will not argue that point

Because it is absolutely true. I cannot fathom why police would tell someone who is admitting to a possible crime that they are there to investigate to simply "Go home"

ok, I'm not that dense, I know exactly why and it is unequivocally wrong

[forthemiddle]

57. Did you read your link?

It says he told the police that he shot someone AFTER he walked into an Illinois police station, and surrendered!
Are you saying that the police should have shot him when he and his mother walked into the police station, and the only reason they didn’t shoot him was because he was white?

Kyle Rittenhouse was not shot because the police did not come upon him while he was in the act of killing someone. Ma’Khia was shot because she was!

If I misunderstood your point, I will delete, but you have linked the story multiple times seemingly meaning you think that the police didn’t shot an admitted killer only because he was white.

[uponit7771]

58. Really. ?!?! He's walking with an ar in the open at night during a riot, that's NOT threatening?!

Go ahead ... Excuse his actions as normal ... We're used to it

[ExciteBike66]

22. Easy, he didn't fire his weapon in their presence.

Rittenhouse committed murder, but the cops shouldn't shoot him since he didn't do it in their presence (and he didn't make any further threatening moves). No one here at DU thinks Rittenhouse should have been shot by cops who didn't see him do anything wrong, right?

The girl with the knife was committing a murder, and the cop saved the other girl's life.

[uponit7771]

27. Not easy ....he told the cops he shot two people and they let him go home (link)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kenosha-protesters-killed-teen-kyle-rittenhouse-police-report/

[ExciteBike66]

56. This still has no bearing on the actual shooting of Ma'Khia

The reason Rittenhouse wasn't shot by police was that he didn't make any threatening gestures in their presence. The fact that the police let him go is terrible, but has nothing to do with Ma'Khia Bryant. If the police had shown up after Ma'Khia had stabbed someone, when she was no longer threatening people, then they would have had no reason to shoot her (just arrest her).

Policing is screwed up in this country, but the Ma'Khia Bryant case is not an instance of the police screwing up. The cop saved a life.

[WarGamer]

23. because he wasn't caught "in the act" of trying to kill someone?

[uponit7771]

28. No he just told the police what he did and they still let him go home breathing

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kenosha-protesters-killed-teen-kyle-rittenhouse-police-report/

[dixiechiken1]

24. I can't even belieeeeeeve this...

[Skittles]

51. I know

[uponit7771]

30. ***RITTENHOUSE TOLD THE COPS HE SHOT TWO PEOPLE***** they let him go home breathing Link inside

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kenosha-protesters-killed-teen-kyle-rittenhouse-police-report/

[FailureToCommunicate]

36. Or so he thought in his tiny little head.

[uponit7771]

38. After he shot someone for no good reason

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

40. do you have a link that describes the moments of the first person shot. ?

I remember reading that the first person that was shot was being aggressive.

If I'm holding a gun and someone attacks me, I'm thinking it is life threatening.
You might say, "no good reason". I'd say, "self preservation".

[uponit7771]

41. Yes, but you know I already do seeing the judge didn't think it was self defense. People can

... take their 88er bullshit excuses for the kid killing someone to another website

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

45. I didn't know about a judges decision.

What I do well, I think, is put myself in another persons shoes.

This forum should be, and I think largely is, about truth. Truth and justice of that truth is what leads me to be a democrat.

So, even if I know that a person is a racist, I still believe that false accusations do not justify the end.

There is plenty that is true that we can hang our hats on to win our points.

[ItsjustMe]

44. 61 Year-Old White Man Fleeing Police

This 61 Year-Old White Man Wasn't Shot Either.

[Celerity]

47. Newly released video puts paid to claims that it was not a justified shooting

Amazing how little thought is given by some on here to the girl in pink's (also a black girl) life as well. Extremely disappointing, IMHO. Also, I have now seen more than a dozen experts (the majority PoC) debunk, in great detail, the 'Taser was the way to go theory'.

This video shows again that the cop saved the girl in pink's life. It is all a tragedy, but some of the posturing here is extremely problematic and utterly, at the end of the day, unproductive, and indeed may be a real spanner in the works of my and millions of other's quest for racial justice in an LEO context. This tragedy is a bad, bad vehicle to try and force a George Floyd, etc template onto.

Link to tweet

[TwilightZone]

55. The complete disregard for the safety of the girl she was trying to stab is appalling.

Many act like she doesn't even exist. I simply don't get it other than that she's an inconvenient complication in the way of pushing an agenda.

One poster said the cop should have let her get stabbed and work out the logistics later. Another said the police shouldn't have even been involved, even if it meant a girl was stabbed to death. Another said that it was OK if she got stabbed because "knife wounds are rarely fatal."

Kind of mind-boggling.

[djacq]

48. WHITE PRIVILEGE.