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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 03:43 PM Mar 2021

Sen. Warnock on the filibuster in his maiden floor speech: "It is a contradiction to say we must pro


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Kyle Griffin
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Sen. Warnock on the filibuster in his maiden floor speech: "It is a contradiction to say we must protect minority rights in the Senate while refusing to protect minority rights in the society. No Senate rule should overrule the integrity of our democracy."
3:35 PM · Mar 17, 2021
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Sen. Warnock on the filibuster in his maiden floor speech: "It is a contradiction to say we must pro (Original Post) soothsayer Mar 2021 OP
Well said Senator Warnock. sheshe2 Mar 2021 #1
I can see why he is well respected. Quite BootinUp Mar 2021 #2
What's been troubling me is bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #3
I thought about that after turtle's threat yesterday...we can't let him scare us into inaction PortTack Mar 2021 #8
Conservatives have rarely had any respect for democracy. Caliman73 Mar 2021 #11
Think it is super simple. We have more supporters Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2021 #20
This is an example of a failed DNC. We should be running Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2021 #21
We must shift public opinion and save our thunder for election 2022 prime impact bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #24
+1 CrispyQ Mar 2021 #32
+1,000,000. To me it started when we stopped being Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2021 #36
+1, The people who justify insurrection wont give up power any longer once they get it back uponit7771 Mar 2021 #28
Yup. It will take 50 years to diffuse their nascent dictatorship bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #30
Yep, I'm thinking I'm going into hyperbole to feel like Republicans are not only against democracy uponit7771 Mar 2021 #31
Fewer words sometimes carry more import. Go Raphael! jaxexpat Mar 2021 #4
K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Mar 2021 #5
Manchin needs to follow senator Warnock's lead!! PortTack Mar 2021 #6
Well said and directly to the point! peggysue2 Mar 2021 #7
well said, but that is not our history. SYFROYH Mar 2021 #9
Agreed, but history need not always repeat itself DFW Mar 2021 #12
Tyranny of the minority. Grins Mar 2021 #10
What an astute and convincing argument! BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #13
K&R Blue Owl Mar 2021 #14
The filabuster is Racist and Authoritarian by it's very nature. Tommymac Mar 2021 #15
What a speech! Deminpenn Mar 2021 #16
Sen Rev Warnock bdamomma Mar 2021 #17
Same here. ShazzieB Mar 2021 #18
This is tomorrow's call to my two US Senators. PatrickforB Mar 2021 #19
Twitter replies: Rhiannon12866 Mar 2021 #22
Rev. Sen. Warnock Nails GOP Hypocrisy On Filibuster UCmeNdc Mar 2021 #23
Yes, yes, yes! This is a PROFOUND observation by Sen. Rev. Warnock bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #25
BOOM! Drop the mic. Well said. nt TigressDem Mar 2021 #26
I Ingersollman Mar 2021 #27
The filibuster does not protect minority rights treestar Mar 2021 #29
Republicans have always tried to suppress the vote of Democrats Glaisne Mar 2021 #33
His first speech on the floor was inspiring. The tandem from GA is a breath of fresh air. nt Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #34
Well said. Martin68 Mar 2021 #35

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
3. What's been troubling me is
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 04:52 PM
Mar 2021

how Republicans fear free elections. Either they have no confidence in their ability to sell their issues to all voters, OR they have some really nasty things in mind. And I think it's the latter because they know they can sell anything, they've done it many times.

PortTack

(32,778 posts)
8. I thought about that after turtle's threat yesterday...we can't let him scare us into inaction
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 05:16 PM
Mar 2021

It’s exactly what they want!

The qgop are reeling from the American Rescue Acts success, it’s 75% approval rating..and Biden’s high approval rating. They are scared!

As far as doing something terrible..they’re gonna do that anyway! They simply aren’t having an luck dragging Biden down or what he’s doing..nothing is sticking and they know it.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
11. Conservatives have rarely had any respect for democracy.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 05:57 PM
Mar 2021

Notice, that I did not say Republicans. I mean conservatives, most of whom are typically Republican in the US.

It is baked into the origins of the ideology. Read Burke and De'Maistre, the founders of conservatism, then read their followers. Conservatism began in defense of Monarchy during the French revolution, and has not changed much in the centuries that followed. Of course they do not support hereditary monarchy anymore but they still see society as a hierarchy, with the deserving at that top, and everyone else to remain in their place. The purpose of government, as in the time of Burke and De'Maistre was to uphold the traditions and the power structure. Nothing has changed in modern conservatism. They see any government interference into the social structures as "against the natural order of things". That is why you see such a focus on masculinity, on religious freedom (at least Christian freedom), and backlash to movements advocating the rights of women, people of color, and the poor. Democracy, to them is fine, as long as it is confined to those who deserve to wield it (rich, White, Christian Men). Letting all the "rabble vote" will result in chaos and anarchy. Though more likely it would result in a flattening of society, a more equitable distribution of resources and power, and in rich, White, Christian, Men not being able to wield the political and social power that they have had for centuries.

So, they absolutely know they cannot sell their true issues to all voters. They absolutely know this. Conservative issues are not compatible with an open, free, and mobile society where the rights of all people are respected and protected. That is why they have tried to restrict the vote and to buy the power and influence structures within the media to keep their narrative relevant.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. Think it is super simple. We have more supporters
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 12:06 AM
Mar 2021

than they do. They know our ideas are altruistic and that we care about the lesser among us.

They, on the other hand, are guided by the dollar.

It couldn't be simpler than that.

Their fear now...that there aren't enough dollars to squelch our "right thing" voice

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
21. This is an example of a failed DNC. We should be running
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 12:08 AM
Mar 2021

generic ads everywhere highlighting how the right is suppressing the vote.

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
24. We must shift public opinion and save our thunder for election 2022 prime impact
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:40 AM
Mar 2021

So I'm not too alarmed by slow-walking this at this period of time. The scope of the Jan 6 Commission is another matter. Ain't it convenient any concept of Trump Crimes Commission has faded and replaced by Jan 6 Commission?

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
32. +1
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 11:39 AM
Mar 2021

They've been beating us at messaging for 40 years. They have been more successful in defining our party than we have. Tax and spend democrats. Comin'-to-take-your-guns democrats. Soft on immigration democrats. Evidence shows that the economy does better under democratic leadership & yet the GOP has captured the reputation of being the party of business, & therefore better for the economy. It's like we don't believe in marketing.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
36. +1,000,000. To me it started when we stopped being
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 02:46 PM
Mar 2021

Unabashedly liberal and expressing that with bleeding heart emotion a la people like Ted Kennedy and Mario Cuomo. It was like we bought into THEIR notion that "liberal" was a dirty word.

One of the most striking examples to me was when we passed ACA. We didn't pull any heartstrings about it at all. About how the Republicans were not even wanting to let people go to the doctor when they were sick.

And then constantly over explaining and over analyzing every move instead of letting soul and conscious be a guide.

I'm actually a little more hopeful now that Biden is in. He seems to be doing instead of over analyzing. And he doesn't try to over explain.




bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
30. Yup. It will take 50 years to diffuse their nascent dictatorship
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:08 AM
Mar 2021

so effectively, not likely. We face a new adverse era, very uncertain, no idea what can be salvaged. Democracy vs. Dictatorship, front and center.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
31. Yep, I'm thinking I'm going into hyperbole to feel like Republicans are not only against democracy
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:44 AM
Mar 2021

... but are pro dictatorship at this point.

if they get back in the power forget the United States of America it will be a quick split up

jaxexpat

(6,833 posts)
4. Fewer words sometimes carry more import. Go Raphael!
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 04:56 PM
Mar 2021

It makes it hard for me to believe he's a preacher. Or is this an excerpt from a 90 minute diatribe?

DFW

(54,405 posts)
12. Agreed, but history need not always repeat itself
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 06:10 PM
Mar 2021

Pivotal events occur, both good and bad. This is a chance for some good, just as 2016 brought some awful bad.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
13. What an astute and convincing argument!
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 09:09 PM
Mar 2021

A completely insightful and well-expressed thought on the matter. I'm impressed.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
15. The filabuster is Racist and Authoritarian by it's very nature.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 09:52 PM
Mar 2021

It is an anti-democratic rule that has been used as cover to maintain the power of the few over the many.

The power of the 1% over the 99%.

The power of the master over the slave.

The power of the police over the innocent.

The power of the corrupt over the honest.

If We want to truly protect the minorities in Our Great Country, the filabuster MUST GO.

I am not afraid of the future life in America without it - I AM afraid of what life in Our Great Country will continue to be if this archaic and RACIST legislative rule, not even a law, remains in force.



bdamomma

(63,875 posts)
17. Sen Rev Warnock
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:27 PM
Mar 2021

speech was absolutely superb. I said "Amen" after and clapped too. He has to get re-elected again I will be proud to donate to him again.

PatrickforB

(14,577 posts)
19. This is tomorrow's call to my two US Senators.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 11:26 PM
Mar 2021

Because this McConnell thing, where he is threatening to obstruct everything if his precious filibuster is attacked - hey, news flash - he has ALREADY been obstructing everything. For the last four years. The House passed around 300 laws, and McConnell killed them ALL. They never even came to the Senate floor for debate and vote.

And hey, I know in a republic, I won't always get my way. I think everyone who has seriously studied civics knows this. But to have one side of the bicameral legislature obstruct everything - refuse to even bring stuff up for debate and vote - is not right. Like millions of others, I just want a government that works.

So our people need to ram that down Mitch's treasonous throat and kill the fil!

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
25. Yes, yes, yes! This is a PROFOUND observation by Sen. Rev. Warnock
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:42 AM
Mar 2021

Profound. Not quite game-changing, but GQP now has another cancer to deal with.

Ingersollman

(204 posts)
27. I
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:38 AM
Mar 2021

read his entire speech yesterday, and I must admit, I got choked up. He's the real deal and we need to help him get re-elected. I will be donating regularly.

Glaisne

(515 posts)
33. Republicans have always tried to suppress the vote of Democrats
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 12:30 PM
Mar 2021

"Republicans have long tried to drive Democratic voters away from the polls. “I don’t want everybody to vote,” the influential conservative activist Paul Weyrich told a gathering of evangelical leaders in 1980. “As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.”"
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-gop-war-on-voting-242182/

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