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Baitball Blogger

(46,736 posts)
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 03:39 PM Mar 2021

Once the entire family is vaccinated with the second dose, and has gone through a two week

waiting period, are there new guidelines about precautions that we have to follow with groceries and outside purchases? Right now we wipe everything with Lysol or Clorox wipes, or put the dry stuff in paper bags and leave them in a back room for three days.

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Once the entire family is vaccinated with the second dose, and has gone through a two week (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Mar 2021 OP
You don't have to disinfect everything. Ocelot II Mar 2021 #1
Thank you! Baitball Blogger Mar 2021 #2
I heard a several months ago that it is not necessary to wipe things down. I think it was Fauci or Dream Girl Mar 2021 #3
That is one practice I will be happy to drop. Baitball Blogger Mar 2021 #4
Yeah I think as far back as last summer, they said that & nobody has gotten it from a surface like themaguffin Mar 2021 #17
I haven't wiped anything like that since June, and the CDC obamanut2012 Mar 2021 #5
I never did. Dream Girl Mar 2021 #8
You probably never had to do that but we're pretty careful too soothsayer Mar 2021 #6
Although I wash my hands a lot, and use sanitizer when I'm out, nilram Mar 2021 #7
There has never been CDC guidance on packages and groceries... brooklynite Mar 2021 #9
I have been somewhat surprised at the number of people who did not Runningdawg Mar 2021 #10
Why would anyone think they need to disinfect the top of a can? PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2021 #12
Work in a grocery store or food warehouse for a week and you will understand. Runningdawg Mar 2021 #16
Really? The workers do unspeakable things to the cans? PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2021 #18
Are you aware that EVERY grocery store and food warehouse Runningdawg Mar 2021 #20
Yes, I generally wash produce. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2021 #21
Myth busters investigated this DenaliDemocrat Mar 2021 #22
You never needed to wipe down everything. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2021 #11
OMG, I disinfect everything from the grocery store! Getting 2nd shot next week. liberal_mama Mar 2021 #13
You never did have to do it. Ocelot II Mar 2021 #15
You still need a mask etc. Meowmee Mar 2021 #14
Covid 19 is not Sars, even though they are related. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2021 #19

Ocelot II

(115,735 posts)
1. You don't have to disinfect everything.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 03:43 PM
Mar 2021

Recent research indicates that covid isn't easily transmitted from surfaces. "In hospitals, surfaces have been tested near COVID-19 patients, and no infectious virus can be identified," Goldman says.

What's found is viral RNA, which is like "the corpse of the virus," he says. That's what's left over after the virus dies.

"They don't find infectious virus, and that's because the virus is very fragile in the environment — it decays very quickly."

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/28/948936133/still-disinfecting-surfaces-it-might-not-be-worth-it

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
3. I heard a several months ago that it is not necessary to wipe things down. I think it was Fauci or
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 03:45 PM
Mar 2021

Sanjay Gupta. It's a very big waste of time regardless of you vaccination status

themaguffin

(3,826 posts)
17. Yeah I think as far back as last summer, they said that & nobody has gotten it from a surface like
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 01:15 PM
Mar 2021

that

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
5. I haven't wiped anything like that since June, and the CDC
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 03:46 PM
Mar 2021

Doesn't really stress it's passed that way. It's mainly passed via air.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
6. You probably never had to do that but we're pretty careful too
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 03:46 PM
Mar 2021

They kind of relaxed the “surface spread” warnings over time, but we remain fairly careful about contact.

Sooooo... I’d guess that a couple weeks after everyone has their second shot you’ll be free from your good hygiene.

nilram

(2,888 posts)
7. Although I wash my hands a lot, and use sanitizer when I'm out,
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 03:53 PM
Mar 2021

I haven’t worried about groceries or packages for a long time. This is from last June:

We've been told for months that the coronavirus can be spread on surfaces we encounter throughout the day, but now the CDC is saying the virus doesn't travel as easily on items as we thought — so, is it time to ditch the disinfectant wipes?

“We've had millions of cases, and over 100,000 deaths in the United States now, and nothing has ever been traced to groceries or mail or a package, so I think that's telling,” said Dr. Tim Wiemken with Saint Louis University’s Center for Outcomes Research.


I guess I will let them sit a day or two or five, unless I need to use something, but I’m not dogmatic about it. (And it could be that I’m lazy.)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/cdc-updated-its-guidance-on-covid-19-and-surfaces-here-s-what-that-means-for-your-home/ar-BB14RoST

Runningdawg

(4,520 posts)
10. I have been somewhat surprised at the number of people who did not
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 04:19 PM
Mar 2021

disinfect the tops of their cans before opening, prior to the pandemic. No need to get carried away, a little hot soap and water will do it. Also, drop that nasty can opener in the dishwasher every time you run it.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
12. Why would anyone think they need to disinfect the top of a can?
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 04:55 PM
Mar 2021

I've never done anything like that. And no, I don't get sick all the time. In fact, I'm pretty much the healthiest person I know.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
18. Really? The workers do unspeakable things to the cans?
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 01:21 PM
Mar 2021

I can chalk that up to learning something new.

I still don't see the tops of cans as being a significant source of any kind of disease. Honestly, if that were actually the case, I'd think that there would have been reports about that over the years.

Runningdawg

(4,520 posts)
20. Are you aware that EVERY grocery store and food warehouse
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 02:30 PM
Mar 2021

has roaches, mice and rats which pee all over everything and the cans more than likely contain the residue of the poisons used to kill them? To each his own. I will continue to clean the tops of my cans as I have for the last 55 years.
As for no reports? Likely passed off as food poisoning. Please, please tell me you at least wash your produce.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
21. Yes, I generally wash produce.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 06:14 PM
Mar 2021

But there cannot possibly be that much residue if in my 72 years I've never had a problem with getting sick from handling cans. Again, your fear strikes me as incredibly overblown.

Most of the time food poisoning is quickly traced to a source, which is often a restaurant or produce from a store. From cans? I've certainly never seen such reports.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
11. You never needed to wipe down everything.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 04:54 PM
Mar 2021

Never. The virus just doesn't stay on surfaces in any meaningful way. Plus, now you have lysol and clorox all over everything, which probably has other bad impacts.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
13. OMG, I disinfect everything from the grocery store! Getting 2nd shot next week.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 06:57 PM
Mar 2021

I will be excited not to have to do that anymore.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
14. You still need a mask etc.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 07:09 PM
Mar 2021

As for wiping things, washing hands etc. I disagree. Sars cov was already proven to be transmitted to family members who were caring for a recuperating family member in their homes. It can be transmitted via saliva, urine and feces. They recommended sanitizing surfaces and bleaching bedding/ clothes etc.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
19. Covid 19 is not Sars, even though they are related.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 01:25 PM
Mar 2021

Covid 19 is transmitted pretty much exclusively by droplets through the air. In fact, there seem to be zero cases gotten from surfaces.

The vast majority of cases seem to have originated with some super-spreader and close indoor contact. Church choirs and weddings come to mind.

So no, bleaching and disinfecting everything is not only not needed, but puts all kinds of bleach and disinfectant on things which simply isn't necessary.

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