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speak easy

(9,259 posts)
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:44 AM Mar 2021

OK. Supposing HR.1 passes via a limited exception to the filibuster.

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How much of it will be stayed by cases that will ultimately end up with SCOTUS?

I.E. - what will be the impact in 2022?

Asking for a friend

EDIT: If you can't say (off the top of your head) how HR.1 will make a difference, how can you sell it?

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OK. Supposing HR.1 passes via a limited exception to the filibuster. (Original Post) speak easy Mar 2021 OP
No relies? Kick. speak easy Mar 2021 #1
One, it won't pass. WarGamer Mar 2021 #2
It is going to pass. I'll put money on it. speak easy Mar 2021 #3
Interesting. We'll see. Don't hold your breath, though... WarGamer Mar 2021 #4
Budget reconciliation rules allow the Dems into introduce another big bill this year. speak easy Mar 2021 #7
If it passes... RussBLib Mar 2021 #5
I doubt there will be all that many injunctions early on dsc Mar 2021 #6
Automatic voter registration? speak easy Mar 2021 #8
HR1 "essentially" puts NATIONAL ELECTION RULE directly in congress's hands and no longer on uponit7771 Mar 2021 #9

WarGamer

(12,449 posts)
2. One, it won't pass.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:13 PM
Mar 2021

Manchin, Sinema and probably Feinstein won't nuke the filibuster for HR1.

Better chance of passing Infrastructure, Background checks and Tax Reform.

Two... What do you think Barf, Hand Maiden, GoodHair, Sleepy, Scalito and JR will do with it?

speak easy

(9,259 posts)
3. It is going to pass. I'll put money on it.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:17 PM
Mar 2021

Manchin and Sinema are in negotiation right now - and Mitch knows it.

speak easy

(9,259 posts)
7. Budget reconciliation rules allow the Dems into introduce another big bill this year.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:55 PM
Mar 2021

That will be the BDF Build Back Better Bill, which includes tax increases on the wealthy. No surprise to anyone, least of all Mitch. Everyone knew it was on. the cards.

What was a surprise is the silence that followed Jim Clyburn's statement on March 6.

There’s no way under the sun that in 2021 that we are going to allow the filibuster to be used to deny voting rights. That just ain’t gonna happen. That would be catastrophic. If Manchin and Sinema enjoy being in the majority, they had better figure out a way to get around the filibuster when it comes to voting and civil rights.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/07/james-clyburn-interview-filibuster-voting-rights

That's what's going on now. Manchin and Sinema are figuring out a way way to get around the filibuster, and Mitch has got word of it.

RussBLib

(9,019 posts)
5. If it passes...
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:31 PM
Mar 2021

Red states will sue, sue, sue for injunctions to tie it up in courts, and I don't have any confidence in the current makeup of the SCOTUS.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
6. I doubt there will be all that many injunctions early on
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:34 PM
Mar 2021

the only stuff that would be sued over quickly are the public financing, which are clearly constitutional. The rest wouldn't be sued over until they are used and that would likely take redistricting or suits over state laws.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
9. HR1 "essentially" puts NATIONAL ELECTION RULE directly in congress's hands and no longer on
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 11:02 PM
Mar 2021

... totally controlled by states by constitution.

Therefore we can set a floor against voting supression laws

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