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U.S. to weigh in as post-brexit row threatens N. Ireland peace (Original Post) Cosmo Blues Mar 2021 OP
I keep on thinking that Brexit may result in a united Ireland. Although PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2021 #1
Indeed there is a song NotANeocon Mar 2021 #3
Here are the lyrics: PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2021 #5
Just give Ireland back to the Irish NotANeocon Mar 2021 #2
The problem is Sgent Mar 2021 #4
Things have changed considerably over the last 20 years. NotANeocon Mar 2021 #6
My first trip to Ireland was in 1972. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2021 #7
When I was a whelp Dublin had a few "foreign" students in Trinity or UCD NotANeocon Mar 2021 #8
At least this time the U.S. President won't be advocating the privatization of the NHS pecosbob Mar 2021 #9
Northern Ireland, then Scotland. roamer65 Mar 2021 #10

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
1. I keep on thinking that Brexit may result in a united Ireland. Although
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 09:28 PM
Mar 2021

I'm not sure what the correct term might be. "A Nation Once Again" is, I believe, the title of a song about this.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
5. Here are the lyrics:
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 09:56 PM
Mar 2021

When boyhood's fire was in my blood
I read of ancient freemen,
For Greece and Rome who bravely stood,
Three hundred men and three men;
And then I prayed I yet might see
Our fetters rent in twain,
And Ireland, long a province, be.
A Nation once again!

A Nation once again,
A Nation once again,
And lreland, long a province, be
A Nation once again!

So, as I grew from boy to man,
I bent me to that bidding
My spirit of each selfish plan
And cruel passion ridding;
For, thus I hoped some day to aid,
Oh, can such hope be vain ?
When my dear country shall be made
A Nation once again!

A Nation once again,
A Nation once again,
And lreland, long a province, be
A Nation once again!

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
2. Just give Ireland back to the Irish
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 09:32 PM
Mar 2021

and don't start another unnecessary war. Keep out of things that don't concern you and STFU.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
4. The problem is
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 09:50 PM
Mar 2021

the RoI doesn't want it as is, and the majority (slightly) of the people living in N Ireland would vote to remain part of the UK -- and are willing to start a terrorist campaign over it.

Its not an easy issue.

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
6. Things have changed considerably over the last 20 years.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:01 PM
Mar 2021

And the 6 counties are no longer as well gerrymandered as they once were. Furthermore belonging to the EU has definite monetary gains for the majority and money talks.

I suspect they are a lot closer to actual unity than 22 and less likely to start another civil war.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
7. My first trip to Ireland was in 1972.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:03 PM
Mar 2021

I stayed at a B&B in Dublin. One of my fellow lodgers was a commercial traveler, a businessman traveling for his business. If I recall correctly, he owned several movie theaters in some other part of the country.

We became friendly, and one day he took me downtown to the GPO, the General Post Office, the site of the Easter Uprising in 1916. He told me all about it, and I would have sworn it had happened only a few years earlier, rather than more than half a century before.

For what it's worth, I'm 100% Irish. All four grandparents came from Ireland at the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th centuries. When I was a little girl, the elderly aunts would all look at me and say (please imagine an Irish brogue here), "Ahhh, she has the map of Ireland on her face." Well, I grew up in this country, and even if we are only talking white people, there's a good amount of variety of appearance, let alone all of the other wonderful ethnicities and country of origin.

My parents' generation all married fellow Irish Americans. On that first trip to Ireland I was flabbergasted to see that every single person I saw looked EXACTLY like my brothers and my sisters and my cousins. Wow.

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
8. When I was a whelp Dublin had a few "foreign" students in Trinity or UCD
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:13 PM
Mar 2021

They were the only brown or black faces you would see - perhaps 1 per week.

Joining the EU changed all that and Liffeyside is nearly cosmopolitan today. They do speak a language that the stranger does not know but it isn't Gaelic.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
9. At least this time the U.S. President won't be advocating the privatization of the NHS
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 01:29 AM
Mar 2021

as part of the negotiation.

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