Trump enters CPAC 🤣😂🤣

[Nevilledog]

Link to tweet

[Grasswire2]

1. MUST we see his close-up? UGH. nt

[AZ8theist]

25. I think the poster has the wrong image of Doturd at CPAC. Here's the correct one:

[SunSeeker]

2. Ok, that is funny, but here's a funny one without using women as an insult:

Link to tweet

[nolabear]

3. That's not women. That's Norma Desmond. It's perfect.

Sure, she’s a woman and has a particular drama but it’s a whole lot like his.

[SunSeeker]

6. I know it's Norma Desmond. Why do we insult men by portraying them as a woman?

It's one thing to insult a woman by portraying her as Norma Desmond, but when you suggest a man is Norma Desmond, it adds the insult that he is like a woman. This implies a man being like a woman is bad. Surely we can use our creativity to come up with an insult for a man that does not also insult women.

Yet these sort of insults are so ubiquitous that I often don't even think twice about it. But when I went into Twitter to retweet that funny Norma Desmond tweet, I was jarred by seeing this reply to it, and it is very true:

Link to tweet

[nolabear]

18. Okay. I'm too exhausted to argue the point.

[mopinko]

19. that would be your hang up.

[SunSeeker]

21. So not wanting women gratuitously insulted is a "hang up"?

[mopinko]

30. thinking that comparing someone to a woman is especially insulting

is a hang up, yes.

[SunSeeker]

31. No, not just "someone." Using similarity to women as an insult to men.

Please don't change the facts of what is happening here.

[SunSeeker]

5. It's using a female fictional character.

"Jesus. It's a goddamn movie." Yes, of course it's a movie. About a woman. Why are you so angry?

[TNNurse]

7. This woman does not think this is making fun of women.

It is making use of an overly dramatic fictional character.

It suits him, he has the same ego as the character.

[Nevilledog]

8. It's about the character, not the gender.

[CurtEastPoint]

10. THANK YOU! I blew up w/my earlier post and apologize. It's the CHARACTER. What? Only men

can get made fun of? And it's knocking Norma Desmond's egomania.

[SunSeeker]

15. So there are no male egomaniacs we could have likened Trump to?

Why choose a female egomaniac to make fun of a man?

[treestar]

29. She acted out an entrance like that

So you can get the joke by just looking.

What male egomaniac is pictured walking in like that? The joke won't work if you use Dump himself.

[SunSeeker]

36. The entrance of the emperor with no clothes is more like what Trump is doing.

Or maybe Mussolini appearing on tbe balcony.


But neither are as funny, because we think men looking like women is funny. Think about why that is.

[Duppers]

11. Exactly. TY.

👍

[SunSeeker]

14. Surely there are male characters that we could have likened him to.

Are there only female characters associated with vanity and megalomania?

[jaxexpat]

23. Desmond was pretty much a nonfunctional character.

Trumps really only slightly more functional but otherwise a good likeness. As for male characters I can think of only one except he was highly functional, George C. Scott's "Patton".


BTW, I'm a real Patton fan none-the-less.

[SunSeeker]

32. Patton was a patriot. He would have died for his country.

Trump is not like Patton. He's more like Mussolini.

[jaxexpat]

35. Patton was, never-the-less, a self-serving egomaniac.

He was well read, prized intellectual endeavors and thought love of wealth a moral weakness.
Trump has none of those qualities. What's perhaps the hardest to take is that he is less than even Mussolini.

[SunSeeker]

12. I didn't either, until I saw the reply of another woman and thought about it.

And Trump does not have the same ego as the Norma Desmond character. His megalomania is much more sinister and detructive. Norma only hurt herself.

[Ligyron]

13. Precisely.

[LisaM]

16. It's about a character out of touch with reality.

I think it's just fine.

[SunSeeker]

22. The thing is, I don't think Trump is out of touch with reality. He's a liar and gaslighter.

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Norma Desmond was delusional, not a liar.

[birdographer]

17. Another woman not taking it personally

I didn't even think about the woman angle. I was looking at her expression, her "Oh yes, here I am! Feast your eyes on this perfection that is me!" that is so like his narcissism. I imagine he even tossed his golden locks when he arrived to be worshipped.

[SunSeeker]

20. "I didn't even think about the woman angle" either, until I saw another woman's reply tweet.

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And I don't think Trump's narcissism is like Norma Desmond's. His is much more sinister and destructive. Norma Desmond, as delusional as she was, she would not lie about others or hurt people to elevate herself. Trump is much more akin to Mussolini.

[treestar]

27. +1

It is not her womanhood, it is the attitude - that she and Dump are seen to share.

[LiberalLovinLug]

28. Exactly

In some ways, its those that can only see it as a woman / man issue, who it clouds their ability to appreciate the inference, that have a problem IMO.

I read it as an over-dramatic actor/celebrity entering a room. And really, who cares if Trump takes it as calling him effeminate? I don't see why we can't use his fear of being seen as a "girly man" against him.

Like those who are needling the Proud Boys social media sites by hashtagging #proudboys to homosexual pages. And it looks like many in the LGBTQ community are participating in that. To make the PBs uncomfortable and frustrated. One of the reasons for that is that they can't retaliate by trying the same thing to a more liberal organization, because we'd just say..."Yeah...so what, we support the LGBTQ community."

Why not use whatever weapons we have against them, for which they cannot do much about?

[SunSeeker]

38. Trump is not like Norma Desmond. She was delusional, pathetic and forgotten.

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He is a gaslighter, dangerous and surrounded by a cult of personality.

He is so much more like Mussolini. This documentary describes the cult of personality surrounding Mussolini's egotistical strong man persona:

His similarity with Trump and his followers is eerie.

I understand why portraying a bombastic liar who likes to portray himself as a macho man as instead a delusional pathetic woman would bring him down a notch, and is funny. But think about why that is funny. Would it be as funny if Trump was being compared to a male narcissistic character?

It is unfair to say that it's the people who see the sexism in this humor as being the ones "that have a problem." I do indeed "appreciate the inference." And the humor. I just also see the sexism. It is possible to see both.

[LiberalLovinLug]

39. You are right. It is possible to see both

I apologize for the "have a problem" comment.

I just don't see that its worth it to argue content the shows a woman in place of a man, or vica versa.

I just watched Aidi Bryant play Ted Cruz on SNL. Kate McKinnon has done various male politician roles. And I don't give one fig if Ted Cruz is perturbed at all that he is being played by a woman, and having his own biases in his own brain, think its demeaning to him personally.

[KS Toronado]

9. Was expecting to see a emperor with no clothes or something silly with his face

[BobTheSubgenius]

24. I was expecting something more like the "Golden Calf" statue.

Perhaps the classic pig on a platter with an apple in its mouth. Or maybe elsewhere. You decide.

[Montauk6]

26. YAWWWWWWN!!! Better get my CPAP

[hatrack]

33. I have some suggested music for the grand entrance . . .

[Montauk6]

34. LOL!!... Well, hatrack, if they can't get clearance for that one, might I suggest...?

[SunSeeker]

37. LOL. And I bet quite a few in that audience would know the words! nt