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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan we show sensitivity to those who can't get vaccines?
First, congratulations to those of you who have been vaccinated. Joe Biden's administration has been a blessing. Vaccinations have been stepped up, and, better still, the number of people whose lives are on the incremental path to recovery from the social isolation of this pandemic is increasing.
With that said, please realize that obtaining a vaccine is still a nightmarish process to many of those who need it most. While the joy and anecdotal experiences of friendly and efficient on-site vaccinations as relayed by people who were lucky enough to obtain them is inspiring, it is getting to be tone deaf.
There are still people in their 80s with significant disabilities who can't get through the clown show maze that leads to a scheduled appointment. And, yes, people in their 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s, and 30s with health issues, millions of them, probably, are facing the soul-draining, frustrating and ultimately humiliating experience of interaction with many unfriendly registration websites, each with a different set of rules and requests for information, with zero results to show for dozens of attempts.
There's nothing like pulling a lottery number for a vaccine appointment that shows there are 35,000 people vying for limited openings ahead of you. And you know that most of these folks have very real reasons for why they need the vaccine now.
Add to this the rank hypocrisy of the politicians who fought every public health measure aimed at stemming the crisis but who cut into line during the first few weeks of vaccinations.
That includes local officials, most of them Republicans, who scoffed at simple mask requirements, called Democratic leaders "tyrants" for implementing safety measures, and, in some cases, even allowed political rallies in their areas that ignored masking and spacing and spread the disease throughout their locales.
And, yes, then they were right there in front of the line for vaccines. in front of their neighbors and constituents who had been considerate and responsible in respecting the deadliness of the virus.
So, please, when you think of telling the 2,027th version of your successful vaccination experience, read the room first. We are happy that you have been successful, and are proud that Democratic leadership is leading the way with the expansion of vaccine distribution.
But there are millions upon millions of people who are desperate and downcast. People who have been respectful and have worked for the common good. Please understand what they're going through. Let's all celebrate together when they get their shots, too.
LakeArenal
(28,837 posts)But I am so happy for people who do and its worth celebrating.
Many have jumped through every hoop as well.
Every shot given is one shot closer to mine.
I bless all who have gotten this far. Shots or no shots.
OnDoutside
(19,969 posts)Mickju
(1,805 posts)Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)ONE BY ONE...
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Worked for me. Keep refreshing page & jump on it quickly!
I found one & got vax in less than 24 hours.
Gl!!!
Ps search by zip & manufacturer!
meow2u3
(24,768 posts)Every pharmacy I looked for regarding COVID shots is full. None of them have available vaccines. In other words, I'm not so lucky.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Keep trying!
They were posting available vaccines by lots of 20, so they do go quickly!
Good luck!!!
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)My first appointment is tomorrow at a CVS that's a 35 minute drive away and I also have a 2nd appointment next month already set up.
https://www.cvs.com/immunizations/covid-19-vaccine
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,749 posts)Which is northwest of Fort Worth, on the Oklahoma border. We had to stay in a hotel and drive back the next day. But we got our first vaccine.
We were able to get an appointment for our second vaccine five minutes from our house.
If anyone in/near Houston needs assistance with scheduling an appointment or transportation to/from an appointment, private message me.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Sucha NastyWoman
(2,749 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Your offer is quite kind.
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,749 posts)I am the old one.
Ms. Toad
(34,086 posts)I was told yesterday that choosing which vaccine you got was impossible.
AZ8theist
(5,487 posts)I'm NOT ELIGIBLE YET due to the shortage of supply and Arizona state guidelines for who gets vaccinated first.
It sucks since I'm an "essential " worker and have to work.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I am eligible where I live by virtue of my age, but would have gladly stepped aside for an essential worker as I am virtually in total isolation (for a year now). Unfortunately, that was not a choice, so I took the vaccine to be part of the solution to the problem.
Stay safe!
AZ8theist
(5,487 posts)..is I work for a VERY LARGE company and they designated me an essential worker who has to be on site, can't work from home. My frustration is that they certainly could afford to buy vaccines and distribute them at work, but have been dragging their feet on doing that.
Or maybe they just don't want to pay the expense.
It sucks.
BComplex
(8,060 posts)get one are safer .... every day we're a little bit closer to saving lives.
gordianot
(15,242 posts)I have zero tolerance for anti-vaccers who object without any medical cause.
virgdem
(2,126 posts)who have been trying. without success, to secure an appointment for the vaccine.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)ShazzieB
(16,485 posts)It looks more helpful than anything else I've found. My husband and I have been getting frustrated. I will definitely give this a try. 🤞
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Keep refreshing page. I did that & found vax & had in my arm in less than 24 hours.
For those without vax access, please know we are holding you in healthy, safe thoughts with hopes of a vaccine very soon!
wnylib
(21,573 posts)finding a site. There are sites in my area. NONE of them have any vaccine and they don't know when they will get more. The state system in NY is f'd up.
I don't expect realistically to get a shot until the vaccine is widely available everywhere, maybe by end of summer, although I have been eligible by age and health for several weeks.
So, with more contagious strains developing, I am amping up protections.
But at least the fact that some people are getting vaccinated will help to cut back on the spread. Just wish I could be one of them.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)You book both appointments through the site.
I had to keep refreshing page, but I found one & had it in my arm in less than 24 hrs!
Good luck!
wnylib
(21,573 posts)and one is within walking distance for me, that have been designated as vaccination sites. After their initial very small shipment of vaccine, given out before I knew it was available, they have not received any more. They don't know when or if they will get more.
There was another site in the county that was supposed to be a designated state mass vaccine center, several miles away from me. It never became operational because it was closed when a new site opened in Buffalo, even farther away from me.
I considered trying to go to Buffalo, but cannot get a shot there because my address is not local for them. They will only accept people in the immediate Buffalo area.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Hopefully, they will get it together soon & you will be able to get one!
It is a mess here with mass vax sites. Some health care worker stole some vaccines, about 2k spoiled due to winter storm & other issues here.
I hopd you find one soon!!
Ms. Toad
(34,086 posts)So I just picked the west-most NY county. There are 27 sites within 50 miles of the Chautaqua zip code. A couple are reporting Pfizer in stock, but most of them are reporting Moderna in stock.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)well numerous sites reporting In Stock for either or both vaccine's.
FakeNoose
(32,722 posts)... but you go to their site and they are giving no appointments. Either they never received vaccine, or they got a little bit and they ran out. If you call the number you get only a recording saying that you have to make the appointment through the *useless* website. Long story short, these maps are lying, and these places are giving no shots and no appointments for shots.
That is the frustration we are facing. The maps are lying. Maybe things will change soon, but they haven't changed yet, and I'm beyond frustration.
Ms. Toad
(34,086 posts)Despite two diagnosed, one suspected, cancer + diabetes. So I'm beyond frustration at the failure of my state to follow the CDC guidelines.
It sounds as if you are at least eligible.
But the site is another tool in my arsenel for the moment I am eligible. I already have the direct websites (and the order I planned to call based on the vaccine I hope to get).
I will use this site in combination with the direct websites to figure out which locations to choose first. It won't be perfect, but it should streamline the process.
If I remember correctly, appointments for the next week were loaded on Sunday by one of the major NE Ohio providers. (Based on when my spouse was able to get an appointment)
wnylib
(21,573 posts)ShazzieB
(16,485 posts)I saw all the sites saying "vaccine available" and got excited. Then I started clicking and got "no appointments," "no appointments," "no appointments." It feels like an exercise in futility. But I WILL keep trying, because the hubster and I NEED that vaccine!
upstatepolyglot
(3 posts)Also, the closest NY state vaccinating center is about a 2 hours drive away. And I am concerned about the many people here who can't/don't even use the internet - I don't know how they will be able to schedule appointments....
Kaleva
(36,328 posts)I felt happy for those here who did.
jumptheshadow
(3,269 posts)Not one bit -- except for the CPAC hypocrites.
I do believe that more sensitivity to the very stressful plight that many people are in is called for. It's the respectful thing to do.
Kaleva
(36,328 posts)are expressing some joy.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It's not been a picnic for many people, but I definitely find the "how I did it" stories to be inspirational and motivational. We need more good news! I refuse to be a wet blanket. There's no need to rain on anyone's parade!
SilasSouleII
(363 posts)eom
mcar
(42,372 posts)Locally, a 70+ friend who's been tearing out her hair trying to get an appt. finally got her 1st shot last weekend. I've relayed her "how she did it" story to several people this week, in the hopes it will help them.
sheshe2
(83,860 posts)Mickju
(1,805 posts)Before I got mine I was ecstatic for the people who were getting them.
Hekate
(90,773 posts)Thank you, NJ. All along this awful year Ive felt a sense of community, as if we're holding each others hands...
...being encouraging voices in the darkness that Trump created. Praying for the sick and terrified, grieving with the bereaved, upholding the weary and fearful. Rejoicing at each step forward each recovery, each vaccination. Being a community.
All of a sudden in the last few days, our family is turning on itself. In multiple posts and OPs we are being accused of gloating, being disrespectful, being uncaring of others, hogging medication that should go to others, and of being unconscious of our white privilege.
How dare we have even a glimmer of hope and a sliver of relief?
No. Just no. This only serves Trump, who malignantly and maliciously killed at least half a million of our friends and loved ones.
meadowlander
(4,402 posts)until much later this year. Most of the planet's population at this point doesn't even have a wait list yet to try to sign up to.
I liked the idea of pinning *one* thread to the top of the forum so people can share their "I got vaccinated!" story. We don't need five threads a day and separate threads for your first shot and second shot. Maybe a second pinned thread for "I'm having trouble getting vaccinated, what do I do?" so people can get advice.
I get that people are excited and that it's a huge relief and that they want to share it with their DU "family" but weeks in, it's just not that interesting for anyone else to read the fiftieth thread about it clogging up the General Discussion forum. If nothing else, can we take it to the Lounge? It's not a current news story anymore.
LakeArenal
(28,837 posts)ShazzieB
(16,485 posts)Your suggestions are perfect, imo. As it is, all the different threads that keep popping up over and over again are...a lot.
My husband and I are over 65 and he has diabetes. We're definitely eligible, but that doesn't mean much when nobody has any vaccine or any appointments. It shouldn't be this hard, and I blame Chump for not caring and for not even trying to create a rationally organized distribution system in the first place. I definitely do NOT blame anyone who manages to get vaccinated, believe me. But I'm still frustrated, and I will be frustrated until and unless we actually manage to get our shots.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,036 posts)when they'll get any vaccine, all the numerous other possibilities I've tried, some at locations far away from me, have no openings whenever I check, and aren't taking any newcomers.
So while my husband and I are over 65 and have some health issues, and are in the current "in" group for our state, we have not been able to find any openings anywhere despite repeated tries.
If you were luckier than we have been, good for you, but frankly, but your posts make me feel like SHIT.
ShazzieB
(16,485 posts)My husband and I are exactly where you are now, and it sucks.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,036 posts)Ocelot II
(115,829 posts)It seems to me that the posts about getting vaccines have been intended not to brag or gloat but to show how the process has been improving. I'd had no luck at all getting an appointment until suddenly this past week, when another provider came online, and I posted only to describe how the process went and how efficient it was. I think the posts are meant to show hope and progress, not to make people feel bad if they haven't been able to get the vaccine yet. I had resigned myself long ago to weeks or even months of waiting and was pleasantly surprised at the very sudden improvement, which I had not expected. In any event my behavior won't change significantly even after getting the second vaccine because nobody knows for sure yet what the long-term results will be. Anyhow, if you haven't been able to find a vaccine provider yet, hang in there because you will get the vaccine, and probably sooner than later.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Please share liberally!
I had to keep refreshing page, as pharmacies were posting appointments in lots of 20.
https://vaccinefinder.org/search/
cannabis_flower
(3,765 posts)It doesnt show any of the CVS locations in my area. My husband is getting his at CVS on Monday.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)And I'm sure it isn't a complete list of every location offering vaccines. Guessing providers have to sign up? Not sure.
But it is a resource that worked for me & I wanted to share with the community to help others secure their doses.
MyMission
(1,850 posts)I'm not even eligible yet, but several people I know are on waiting lists. One is #5,960 and her spouse is #6,004. Another friend is seriously 58,000 on her list in a larger neighboring county. I will share this with them.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Wow! Long wait lists!
Please encourage friends to keep refreshing the page. I had to, for about an hour. It appeared locations were adding appointments in batches of 20.
I am nothing if not tenacious, & it paid off with 1st Pfizer in less than 24 hrs.
Hopefully, they will be able to get appts!
It seems vaccine roll.out is moving fairly quickly. Now J&J's has been approved for emergency use as well.
Good luck & pls let us know if this worked for you & your friends.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,489 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)The site is only 2-3 days old, repurposed from the previous CDC flu vax finder page, so I am guessing it will expand in scope and available doses. Fingers crossed that all who want a vaccine will be ale to find one.
I had to keep refreshing the page - constantly - for about an hour before I nailed an appointment. It seems the pharmacies were posting available appointments in lots of 20 at a time. They go quickly, needless to say!
Keep trying!
Good luck.
Let us know how it works for you!
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,489 posts)Response to jumptheshadow (Original post)
Ocelot II This message was self-deleted by its author.
msongs
(67,433 posts)AnotherMother4Peace
(4,251 posts)it is important to get the word out that it's OK to get vaccinated if you can. It's safe. I'm not bragging. I want people to know it's OK to get the vaccine. Many older, infirmed people have received it and we're all OK. My older brother, a Vietnam disabled vet (agent orange) was hesitant. He saw that his "baby" sisters are OK, and he got his 1st dose from VA - he's stoked.
We're moving pretty fast with the vaccinations, and new groups are being added. The more people who trust the Vaccine, the better.
jumptheshadow
(3,269 posts)Strategically it is important to change the minds of people who might be reluctant to get the vaccine. And making vaccination "fashionable" and attesting to its safety is important.
But I fear that some people are in bubble and don't know how desperate it is out there. And how unfair and inefficient the distribution processes have been.
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,251 posts)be more confident about about being vaccinated; that those who haven't received them yet will be persistent about getting theirs (I stayed on the computer for days, hitting refresh constantly until poof, something popped up); that those who need help scheduling will reach out (my sister was invaluable with her tips; that those (like my kids) who are in their mid 30's remain patient, hopeful, and vigilant as more and more vaccines are becoming available.
That's what I'm hearing from most of these posts and replies.
EDIT for grammar - darn those nuns in Catholic school are still in my head.
Iggo
(47,564 posts)MineralMan
(146,325 posts)Vaccine availability is just now beginning to make mass vaccination possible. In some places it's easier than in others. I was simply in a random selection group for my age group. My health insurance company, which is working through CVS also has me on their list, but I haven't heard anything from them. Apparently, no vaccine availability has made it into that system.
Still, more and more people each week are getting vaccinated, and a new vaccine is about to become available.
Every person who gets the vaccine is one more person who is no longer in line. I'm 75 years old. I had hoped to get my first shot earlier than I did. But, I just joined the random selection group set up by my state, and waited.
Hope. That's what is going on right now. Every week, more doses appear in most places.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,109 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,489 posts)President Biden visited a site in Houston that will be vaccinating 6000 people per day
Link to tweet
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)Those shots need to be used so they are not wasted. I just text my 25 yr old son to get a hold of dept of health and see if scavenger shots are available. That is to anyone and a matter of not wasting. As the process grows we figure out things we need to do to avoid all waste.
When I get my shot tomorrow I am going to ask if that is happening in this drive because they had a glitch and i think a lot of people got two appts. They will only show up for one. I have a 74 yr old neighbor that has a couple issues and a 70 yr old neighbor. They are signed up and I want to tell them to give it a try. But, I also would not be opposed to see it get into anyones arm. We all have reasons to want ot get on with life a little more safely.
obamanut2012
(26,111 posts)And have been since the beginning. I'm in SOFL. There is literally no way for me to get one, and no way to sign up so I will be scheduled when I can finally get one. People who stay home 100% of the time who live in GOP counties are getting it. Canadians get it. People from NYS get it. I can't. People who get it are being much more slack about being careful. I am petrified I will die before I can get it. If we had a system here, I would at least KNOW I would get it. Right now, my state rep said, if I'm lucky, I will get it in August or September, because DeSantis is rewarding his voters first.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)If everyone who can get vaccinated does get vaccinated we will save those that cannot get it.
Getting vaccinated is both selfish and selfless.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)"Home alone with no end in sight."
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I had to keep refreshing page as pharmacies were posting appointments in lots of 20.
But I kept at it & found one. Had it in my arm in less than 24 hrs. Got 1st Pfizer yesterday.
The process reminded me of when Cubs playes Stros in Milwaukee & Zambrano threw a no hitter!
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)I am not in any of the categories that are currently being vaccinated in my state. It will be months before I am.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Now that Joe & Kamala have the reins, things are moving pretty quickly!
Good luck! Stay safe!
brush
(53,833 posts)It's reported that a 40% increased of availability will happen in March and even more in April and May. The Biden admin had to start from scratch as trump didn't do sh_t.
Hold on. It's getting visibly better by the day. Every body who wants it will be able to get it.
Lilaclady
(71 posts)I am number 12,882 on the list with our health dept. Last week they reported a bit over 4,500 first doses given and about 1,300 second doses given. And they just received a supply of 800 doses. I also call the hospitals number every evening as they suggest to try and sign up. Fortunately this week our Walgreens started vaccinating people and I check that one twice a day to sign up my husband and me. He has Lyme disease complications and I had breast cancer surgery in May. We are both 73. I am happy for those who have gotten vaccinated because you make life safer for the ones who havent yet. Things are looking up. I read the shipments are being increased 40% this week.
Ms. Toad
(34,086 posts)local health departments are getting a very small portion of the vaccine. You're better off trying directly with the distribution sites.
Ka-Dinh Oy
(11,686 posts)My friend however is having a very hard time. She is registered with the health department which she needs to check at least twice a day to see where she can call to get a shot. There is never a place. She keeps a watch in my town and up into Tacoma and nothing.
The other thing that sucks is she is blind so like most people she can't just hop in her car and go. She has to go through everybody in her network to see who has the time to take her.
My friends husband is 84 and even though he as of tomorrow has completed his round it would still be safer for him if she has hers.
I wish I qualified for shots because I help my 82 year old mother and my friend and her husband.
I also live in a complex for elderly and disabled and I would feel better about going out of my apartment if I was vaccinated.
Even when they finally do allow people who are in their 50's I am sure it will be a long time after that to get vaccinated.
I know some who have gotten their shots and I know many who can't find anyplace to get them at.
JohnnyRingo
(18,640 posts)Last edited Sat Feb 27, 2021, 05:45 PM - Edit history (1)
I have lung cancer, COPD end stage kidney failure and a sketchy heart, but appointments are hard to get here in Ohio. I called last week and all they had was Wednesday afternoon 30 miles away in Youngstown. unfortunately, that's one of my dialysis days and missing it is not an option. I'm on a waiting list with the county, but it's been 2 weeks with no reply.
They were going to bring it to the treatment center, but that changed right away. I hold no resentment for anyone who gets it though. I'm glad they are. Too many idiots are refusing and keeping the virus alive.
On edit:
I just read in the paper that registration by the county has been cut off because of a backlog of 10,000 people already waiting (including me, I hope)
stopdiggin
(11,348 posts)under state and local officials to see an enhanced process? If you location doesn't have some kind of centralized registration and process by now -- perhaps somebody should be building one?
Not meant to be snark. I know there are all kinds of variations and considerations out there. But isn't that kind of the problem? This needs to be pulled together and organized. And if it isn't happening in your district -- it should be!
SilverDawg
(798 posts)however, I like reading about the successful experience of others. I'm all for sharing the good news.
msfiddlestix
(7,285 posts)A site other than populated by folks who are eager to get their vaccinations, to get back to some semblance of normalcy in our communities.
I've not come across anything less than a lot of support for vaccinations and I've been frequently browsing through every headline looking for vital information on a variety of topics.
Maybe I missed a little back and forth with one or two individuals not expressing support or sensitivity.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Should we remain silent and say nothing? Should we suppress our own relief and excitement? Should we stop telling positive stories that will serve to encourage others to get the vaccine?
Honestly, I can think of no better way to help someone get through a difficult and sometimes discouraging process than to share their own joyful success stories (and offer advice, tips, and pitfalls to avoid).
I wonder... when will everyone know that it's safe to tell their vaccination stories and experiences (both good and bad) without "offending" someone? Who's in charge of making that particular determination? (And how will everyone be given the ALL-CLEAR signal?)
beaglelover
(3,488 posts)jumptheshadow
(3,269 posts)Why don't you show a scintilla of sensitivity for the situation of people who have been trying as hard as they can to protect and save the lives of loved ones? Instead of answering with snark, which is just an ill-researched response to a very real desperate situation?
And this thread is as valuable to the public as 2,027 threads saying, "I got the vaccine and the people on the ground were wonderful." On this thread, you are seeing some of the situations I have heard about -- people in their 80s who are blind who can't get the vaccine.
While public officials are trying to pass off the blame, a lot of you want to plaster happy faces on a situation where it is still impossible for qualified medical professionals to ascertain who in line should receive the vaccine.
If you don't see the frustration and resentment, then you don't have your ear to the ground. Or, giving you the benefit of the doubt, you live in a place where there actually are effective systems.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Why not talk about ways to assist or make things easier. Most people can do more than one thing at a time. Believe it or not, it's ENTIRELY POSSIBLE to celebrate someone's success AND work to find ways to help others. The two are NOT mutually exclusive.
jumptheshadow
(3,269 posts)Instead of giving us the 2,028th story that could have been written by a bot, do a deeper dive into the issues I'm discussing here.
Yes, there are some fine people who are trying to help. They are volunteers, website developers and good souls with the time to try to book appointments for those in need.
But, so far, the politicians and local leaders aren't out in front of this -- and neither are the people who are taking this so personally that they can't give it a second thought and try to help.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Gosh darn it! If we would just stop being so "insensitive" by telling of our success (and relief, and joy) then all the problems you describe will be fixed.
Maybe the success stories ARE helping. When I hear someone say "I finally got through on my 100th call!" ... I can tell you that something like that motives me to keep trying beyond my 50th call. It lets me know that there's hope and that patience and perseverance is a virtue.
xmas74
(29,675 posts)I stated that i had it and my side effects. I was informed that it was rubbing it in others faces because I had it so soon while everyone else was desperate for it.
I had it in December because I was considered front line. I work in mental health in an in patient institution that helps individuals eventually ready themselves for community living. Unlike those who complained I worked in direct contact with individuals with covid. I watched several of our patients die,along with a few coworkers. Being vaccinated meant that I wasn't so worried about constantly quarantining myself from my family and pets in my own home due to nonstop contact.
The complaints is one of the reasons why I've mostly quit posting here.
Silver1
(721 posts)Something like that happened to me when I first joined and I quit posting too. But then I came back around because I realized that for every bunch of great and thoughtful people here there has to be one jerk. It's just a matter of time before you run into one. So if you don't participate you lose out in the end, the group loses, and the jerk just does more of what they're good at. We really shouldn't let them do that.
I can't imagine how stressful your work is and I'm so glad you got the vaccine early especially given the risks you take every day! I want to say THANK YOU to you, and to all the healthcare workers who have not walked away from us. I know I'm not alone in this! Be well and safe.
xmas74
(29,675 posts)Joined in 2004.
This place has changed.
Random Boomer
(4,168 posts)I'm in my late 60s with several comorbidities, same for my wife, and we're so anxious about this prolonged waiting for a vaccine. No appointment in sight.
That said, under no circumstance do I need people around me -- who are fortunate enough to get the shot -- to speak in solemn hushed voices. I don't blame them for wanting to celebrate their good fortune. It would never occur to me to dampen their relief because of my anxieties.
If you've gotten the vaccine, mazeltov! I'm delighted for anyone who is out of harm's way.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,355 posts)Really, DU has always been used as a place to share good news. If someone gets a Democratic governor, we don't say "why are you being insensitive to those who are stuck in a state with a Republican governor?".
No, your thread is not "valuable". If everyone thought like you, then there'd be no talk about getting the vaccine being a good thing. Which could discourage some waverers from getting it themselves. And would also depress some hard-working health professionals who would never see appreciation of what they're doing.
I don't think Nurse Jackie's response was "ill-researched" at all. It's realistic, and optimistic. It is a normal viewpoint.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,654 posts)Everything is personal.
I happen to agree with you. I try to read every vaccination story as one of hope. They can be educational. I'm glad the vaccinations are happening and glad we have a Democratic administration at the federal level that has made real progress.
But I'm a human being. Every vaccination story is also a reminder that not only have I not had one yet, but I am likely to be one of the very last Americans vaccinated. I live in a ruby red county in Florida. There is no leadership, no organization, and no ethical or moral foundation. I've been residing in a COVID free-for-all just about a year now. I'm stunned my immediate family has not gotten COVID thus far considering the idiots in my community and state.
I'm not a negative person, and I am truly glad for those who have received the vaccination or know they will shortly. But I can honestly admit I am a little tired of people telling me that every person vaccinated is one step closer to this being over and one less person ahead of me in line. Because, of course I know that! But I'm also being told that while the vaccines help the recipient, there is less clarity over whether or not vaccinated people can still pass on the virus to others. So I'll put that in the half-step forward category until we're sure.
I'm not resentful of those getting vaccinated, but I can't help some feelings of jealousy and wistfulness. I'm not going to have the psychological relief that also comes from vaccination for many many more months to come. Consequently, if I see a headline that indicates a vaccination story, I skip it. And should I somehow find myself in one of those miraculously lucky situations and get the vaccinate before Christmas, I'll likely keep the information to myself.
I suppose because I am in your shoes I don't understand the negative responses to your post. And possibly because I have personal experience with infertility/sub-fertility. Psychologically, it reminds me a lot of those days in a weird way.
Silver Gaia
(4,546 posts)I feel as you do. I am happy and feel gratitude for each and every DUer who shares their joy at getting the vaccine. Their stories are sparks of light in the midst of the pandemic's gloom, of hope and relief, of encouragement and inspiration. I ENJOY reading them. They help, not hurt. Through their stories, others who may fear the process can see that it was a positive experience, and for those who are still waiting their turn, which many of us still are, they serve to illustrate that it IS happening, that you, too, will get your turn, and we will all celebrate WITH you when you share your story. My thanks, again, for your words.
Wednesdays
(17,402 posts)Shame on the OP. Unrecced and trashed!
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,489 posts)I am curious what we are supposed to do. I have four risk factors and have was registered on five different sites before I got a vaccine appointment. I had the fun of being at the Houston Minute Maid park when 6000+ persons were vaccinated in one day. I spent a hour sitting in a seat just behind home plate waiting for my shot. The City of Houston was better organized for my second shot. The process is improving
I am happy to be vaccinated and I hope that every one on this board get their vaccine as soon as possible.
nvme
(860 posts)You are in my thoughts and prayers. I am hopeful the process is heading in the right direction. We have a public servant who is willing to say what needs to be said in the Whitehouse. He is also directing the resources and following the sciences. I hope to be able to embrace my fellow Americans once again. Especially those who are in stark opposition to my views. Hang in there the end of this pandemic is in sight.
happybird
(4,616 posts)My boss registered us for the shot as a company and I also registered individually.
According to the communications from the Health Dept. over the past several weeks, we were eligible for the vaccine just as soon as more became available. Dont call us, well call you, with the appointment date and time.
Now, according to the newest email they sent a couple days ago, food service workers have been moved down the list, out of group 1B. Sigh. I cant tell which group we are in now. I have a feeling its going to be a while.
My parents (both over 65) have both had the first shot and for that I am extremely grateful.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)I have several pre-existing conditions on CDC list, but my state is ignoring CDC guidelines, so I won't be eligible any time soon as far as I can tell.
MFM008
(19,818 posts)Going to start picking up soon.
My Drs office said they are ready and waiting word
From the health department to begin vaccinations
CVS pharmecy is making appointments.
You can try through your mychart or health plans
I got mine through MyChart multicare but i had to
Keep checking very frequently .
Keep at it. Dont give up!
ananda
(28,874 posts)It's Austin, TX.
The only thing I know about is a supermax site opening
up at Circuit of Americas and I'm not going there.
ancianita
(36,132 posts)Maybe next month from the FEMA center in Tampa. We'll see.
momta
(4,079 posts)Two brothers and their families. Lots of aunts, cousins, etc. Almost all of them are under 65 and healthy, so it will probably be a while for them. I'll keep you in my thoughts, as I do all of my family.
That means a lot to me. I hope your relatives are
able to get it soon as well.
I know I'll get the vaccine eventually, but it's kinda
hard waiting sometimes.
nolabear
(41,991 posts)Oh hell no. Im excited not only for me having gotten it but for the fact that more and more people are beginning to, and that its opening up so quickly to those who have been and are anxious about side effects.
Im sorry you cant be pleased that others are getting something you havent but Im baffled by the inability to perceive that my success bodes well for yours. Its not exactly the Democratic point of view, that we celebrate people getting their needs met.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Nobody is gonna rain on my parade!
murielm99
(30,755 posts)I was happy to report that my husband and I have received our first vaccinations. So has my daughter in Los Angeles County.
My son is helping my brother navigate the process, and he should be in line for a vaccination soon.
I will continue to enjoy the relief and happiness of all my DU friends as they get vaccinated. When my entire family is safe, I will report that here with joy and relief.
jumptheshadow
(3,269 posts)Your premise is totally off-base and more than a little hard-hearted. This is not a petty response at all. I am saying that we have to shift the focus. The situation out there is currently DESPERATE. I am hearing nothing but blame-shifting and platitudes from politicians of all stripes. Who dreamt up a system to fight a disease that kills older people and then forced the elderly to navigate difficult websites? When are our ineffective systems going to be refined to make them more equitable and intelligent?
I am lobbying for the 89 year old blind woman. And the people who have cancer. And the gentleman with a heart stent. I am lobbying for the autistic young man whose mother is breaking.
I don't have to plead for myself, but I will for my relatives and my neighbors. It is heart-breaking, and yes, Democrats, you should be leading the charge, not pouring vitriol on a reasonable argument.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)In fact, there's nothing at all "reasonable" about demanding the people shut-up and stop sharing their successes. There's nothing "reasonable" about calling us selfish or insensitive or thoughtless or inconsiderate.
The whole premise of the OP just jumped the track and is headed into the ravine. If you want to talk about how we can help or assist people in need, that's fine. Do that. Start a new OP to do that.
But it's just WRONG to belittle and berate others for being happy. It's WRONG to call them/us "insensitive" and uncaring. It's wrong to assume that simply because we are joyful at our good fortune, that (somehow) automatically means that we have done nothing to help others.
That's ridiculous. I'm done.
Keepthesoulalive
(91 posts)Thank you for bringing balance to this discussion, I have learned a great deal through others trials and experiences and hope to continue to do so. Keep sharing.
Wednesdays
(17,402 posts)"Shut up and stop being so insensitive!"
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)"I'm a grandmother!" -- Shut up! I don't even have children!
"I finally got my dream job!" -- Shut up! How insensitive to the unemployed!
"We closed on our new house!" -- Shut up! There are still homeless in the world!
"My son and his husband adopted a baby!" -- Shut up! Don't you care about the birth-mother?
"I lost 50 pounds!" -- Shut up! Some people have medical conditions and can't lose weight!
PS:
Mariana
(14,860 posts)And every time another person receives a vaccine, the situation becomes LESS desperate, for everyone.
nolabear
(41,991 posts)Random Boomer
(4,168 posts)I'm vicariously celebrating every time I hear someone has been vaccinated and the details of the process is information I want to hear.
It's not been my turn yet, and my wife and I are bother anxious about the long wait given our poor health, but good news lifts our spirits. Don't stop on our account.
sheshe2
(83,860 posts)I read one of your posts on the way out the door this morning. I was on my way to get my first shot and had no time to reply. More and more are getting them and that is indeed a good thing, a very good thing and cause for celebration. More will follow.
It will take some time, yet we will get there with Biden in charge. In the mean time for those that have been vaccinated and those that haven't: Wash Your Hands. Social Distance. WEAR A MASK!
nolabear.
nolabear
(41,991 posts)Mr Bear, whos had heart disease for 25 years, isnt eligible yet! It makes me crazy. But hes joyous for me and it only helps us both for one of us to be both vaccinated and careful to care for the other one.
Im so glad youre on your way!
sheshe2
(83,860 posts)You are safer to be with him and he you. It is complicated, isn't it...or just common sense.
Luv~
Akacia
(583 posts)that so many are getting the vaccine. The more people get it the sooner this nightmare might come to a conclusion! I will celebrate with all that have gotten it. Alleluja!
Ms. Toad
(34,086 posts)and diabetes, and I've been teaching in person most days since August. Ohio has decided that no one under 65 is eligible for several weeks. Except a few a special people who educate the "right" age groups, or who have childhood illnesses - some of which do not increase COVID-related risks.
Even though I can't get a vaccine yet, I'm thrilled to see people getting vaccinated, and to hear about it.
Yes - I usually post in the thread belly-aching about Ohio's stupid policies. Think of it as therapy - crabbing in a public forum (and commiserating with others similarly situated) is probably better than the alternatives. I certanly don't begrudge anyone who has been able to protect themselves, their families, and the rest of us.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)We both would be eligible there, because PA is actually following CDC guidelines, unlike OH.
Ms. Toad
(34,086 posts)The places I have explored start wtih requiring an address and multi-state companies use a corporate site that diverts you to the rules of your resident state for signing up.
I have considered (but haven't yet actually explored) calling and trying to sign up by phone.
jumptheshadow
(3,269 posts)As I have said here more than once, I am happy that the pace has picked up and that people are getting their shots.
I do have a problem with the tone deafness I've seen in here, though, especially when so many people are suffering.
Ms. Toad
(34,086 posts)mcar
(42,372 posts)Where are posts saying "ha, ha, I got my vaccine and you didn't!"
I haven't seen any like that.
Tree Lady
(11,484 posts)a appt but today I got a last minute one at Rite Aid this afternoon booked it then talked her into doing it last min. Shuttle at senior place she lives, out of state from me, doesn't run on weekends so she is taking taxi.
I called Rite Aid and they were very nice said they have a chair where she can wait and they will tell her when taxi comes after.
I am still concerned because she is fragile a bit but my daughter and grandson that live a hour away are both working today.
MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)While I wait my turn, l will celebrate every person who is able to get vaccinated. 🇺🇸 🎉 🌞
momta
(4,079 posts)My husband got his first dose yesterday, but I won't be eligible for a while. Probably months, hopefully weeks.
I'm so happy he is getting vaccinated, but I'm also jealous. Like many of the commenters I spend a lot of energy hoping I don't die before I can get vaccinated. It's hard.
I don't mind the posts by people getting vaccinated though. My husband said he was surprised how relieved he was when he got his appointment, and his first shot. It is life-changing.
Native
(5,943 posts)totally ineffective. I'm thrilled for those who get inoculated, but it's also a constant reminder of how long I have to wait. All around me my friends and family members are starting to "enjoy" life again. It's a double edged sword for me. I'm a very sensitive person, so I can live vicariously through them, and that has helped with the waiting and worrying. I'm just afraid that by the time I've gotten my shots, we'll be back in the business of worrying about some devastating strain that's obliterated any headway we've made.
mnhtnbb
(31,401 posts)after we had finished working via a video call on some problems I was having on my laptop. He's a software engineer and my computer guru/consultant when I have problems I can't fix. He lives 10 minutes away, but we haven't been together in a room for over a year. In the past, he would always come to my house--I'd feed him dinner--and we'd fix whatever problems I was having.
When we were done fixing my laptop issues, we were talking about the vaccine. He went on the CDC website that walks people through where you are in line for vaccinations https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations.html
chose North Carolina, and then went through answering the eligibility questions, which I could see on my screen because of the shared video call. At the end, there he was, Group 5. That's a long damn time to wait. Maybe by July he'll be eligible. Until then, we will either video call or get together outside. We can't wait for the weather to warm up so he and his partner can come over to my new house and sit out on the patio--socially distanced-- to visit.
We talked quite a bit about the variant strains, too. I have similar fears that if we can't get more supply out to get more people vaccinated in the next couple of months, we are going to constantly be playing catch up and those of us who are already vaccinated with Moderna or Pfizer will be doing this dance again to get in line for a "booster" to protect us from a dangerous variant.
Anyone who doesn't think we are going to be dealing with this COVID crap for at least another year or more is being naive.
Native
(5,943 posts)it was/is so helpful she's made the local media rounds as well as CNN and CNBC. It's a sad state of affairs when your kid can put together a site between feedings and diaper changes that puts the state's site to shame. And the state paid big bucks to their contractor too. To make it even more ridiculous, when their site crashed, hers was still up & functioning, and her traffic was just as great as theirs at the time. It's just nuts.
Edited to add: As far as knowing when I'll be able to get vaccinated, it's anyone's guess because Florida is the only state in the union that doesn't tell you who gets vaccinated next.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2021/02/23/who-gets-vaccinated-next-floridas-the-only-state-that-doesnt-tell-you/
Fla Dem
(23,732 posts)I don't know what Mass is doing. Usually they are out in front on issues, but seems to have really dropped the ball. It makes me mad that Fla is doing a great job getting the vaccines out and DeSantis is taking credit for it.
It makes me wonder if initially Trump rewarded governors and states who were behind him with lots of vaccines, and held back vaccines for states he lost in the last election. Wouldn't surprise me.
jumptheshadow
(3,269 posts)Trump is ultimately responsible for this. And local Republicans are trying to blame the Democrats.
Native
(5,943 posts)it scrapes almost all of the vaccination sites (CVS, Walgreens, etc.) and refreshes like every 5 minutes or so. You can toggle to see all the sites it combs or just those that have availabilities. When a site has any available slots, it tells you the dates and how many are available on those dates. From there you can click on the "sign up" button and go directly to the site. www.macovidvacines.com
jumptheshadow
(3,269 posts)Trying to get the vaccine for loved ones.
Native
(5,943 posts)jumptheshadow
(3,269 posts)And a couple of very dedicated groups who are working on getting appointments for people who are in bad straits and cannot handle the websites.
Thank you for your positivity, and good luck to you and yours.
Native
(5,943 posts)Fla Dem
(23,732 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)the elderly age group. We got our appts. before news of the new vaccine development came out. I was hopeful for MA as my daughter and her family live there. Now I hear it's not going so well so what happened?
Mariana
(14,860 posts)Massachusetts percentage of the population who've received one dose: 17.5% - two doses: 6.9%
Florida, one dose: 14.4% - two doses: 7.9%
United States, one dose: 14.6% - two doses: 7.1%
I'm not seeing a huge disparity here.
February 28, 2021 8:15 AM ET
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/28/960901166/how-is-the-covid-19-vaccination-campaign-going-in-your-state
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Admittedly the system is a hot mess, because there is really no system. 9 months to come up a nationwide plan and the republicans did jack shit.
But even if we had the best system possible there would still be pissed off people. We have way more people wanting the vaccine than we have product.
LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)countless hours surfing for an appointment. Or seniors and other Americans who do not have easy access to a computer. To not be prepared for this has magnified the horror that the Dump administration rained down on us.
Rocknation
(44,577 posts)Last edited Fri May 6, 2022, 06:43 PM - Edit history (4)
on the grounds that they might make it possible to determine my age.
But seriously folks, the answer to your question is yes...but getting vaccinated if you can.
Rocknation
Random Boomer
(4,168 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,881 posts)I do not understand why people younger than me (I'm 72) have gotten the vaccine, and somehow I have not risen to the top of the list.
Elessar Zappa
(14,033 posts)Im only 37 but have cystic fibrosis. I signed up at the NM vaccine website and I heard nothing. So I called WalMart and lo and behold they had a slot for me! I just got my second shot today. So my advice is to call WalMart, CVS, and WalGreens daily and see if they can get you in. I wish you luck and really hope you dont have to wait too much longer!
Hekate
(90,773 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)The public health people are doing the vaccination program in a very orderly way, but we have all been hamstrung by limited availability. Pfizer US flat out refused to send any, and Pfizer Belgium (as I remember) is the mfr and distributor for Europe said we might have some after the EU's needs are taken care of. I'm not familiar with the details of the balance, and I really don't care. What difference would knowing what's going on with another supplier make to me?
For whatever reason, First Nations are in the very first category, along with front line workers and the very elderly. It started off as remote reserves being pushed to the front of the line, which made sense, given what they mean by "remote." However, reserves that are on the edges of towns are now in that first category.
My wife and I are in Cat 3, and by the slow, slow shipments to go by, we've been told we are going to get ours in JuneJuly. Hopefully.
I have minor lung damage from pneumonia, scarred heart tissue which puts me at "extreme" (their term, not my description - I have to carry medical ID to that effect) risk of a second go-round with endocarditis, which came damned close to finishing me in 2010, and what brought on the pneumonia.
Guess what. I haven't gotten any younger or more robust since that time. So, we wash hands, wear masks and remain socially distant, and more or less housebound. We have done take out/pick up a few times, and I've been to dinner at the home of the two people in our local bubble two, or maybe 3 times in the last year.
It's wearing a little thin. Oh, yeah. Those two people? My ex-wife and her what-seems-to-be-final husband. Because life is weird.
But I begrudge NO ONE their "good fortune" in getting vaccinated, recovering from this monster, or a bubble that keeps them entertained and fulfilled. I was raised at the knee of a true "Greatest Generation" father who, while he might not have said it much, had an ethos that was "Shut up with your whining, look at what needs to be done and just DO IT." He flew Spits, shot at people and had people shoot at him. Shot one guy down, got shot down. He earned the right to have whatever positive life philosophy he wanted.
leftstreet
(36,111 posts)or whatever
you make good points
DURec
Croney
(4,665 posts)25% of DU, 50%, 80%? Those vaccinated are not gloating. It's not like we scored Springsteen tickets and you didn't.
I smile at every gleeful announcement of a shot received. I hope everyone here gets theirs before too long.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)I think any method of distributing the vaccine - as they become available - will frustrate most people. As the oldest sibling of 9, in several states, the process has differed everywhere. I think most started with healthcare professionals, who have been risking their lives daily over the last year.
From there, the states have differed. Had I lived in several states, I would have qualified earlier in most of my siblings' states. I am 70, so I will get my first shot on Tuesday. My 68 year old spouse will be able to sign up on Monday. Each of these waves has happened after the same age was eligible elsewhere. With elderly sick parents (in their 90s) that we have not seen since the end of 2019, we have been stressed because it hurts not be able to see them as their health deteriorates. Still, I worry more about my 58 year old sister, who is an Indiana teacher who will be back with kids in April -- and teachers have no priority there.
However, with the negative of my state being slower, comes a positive, a far less stressful signup process. The good thing is the signup process did not crash even weeks ago when the over 75 were able to sign up and over half of them were registered in the first day. The website made clear that there were enough slots for all qualifying Vermonters -- and there were. The second shot is scheduled at the point you get the first.
After the 65plus, certain jobs and those with certain health conditions will be next. That might be tougher for the state to coordinate because it is likely harder to get the number of people qualifying for each. Age was considered first because almost all of the deaths were people over 65.
I hope that you soon can get a shot. However, as the percent with shots rises, the virus should spread at a slower rate - as most vaccinated people will not pass it on.
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upstatepolyglot
(3 posts)I've spent many anxious hours and hours on the internet and on the phone checking to see when my my husband and I will be eligible, and have realized that unless local conditions improve it is likely I won't get vaccinated till the fall, maybe. My spirits have been holding up pretty well until today, but I haven't seen my family for so long, feeling so frustrated. I'm not raining on ANYBODY's parade, just feeling despair and "left-behindedness". Thanks for acknowledging the suffering of others. This thread has made me feel better today, knowing that I'm not alone, that I'm not the only "loser".
OddMom20
(40 posts)Lovely reminder that we are STILL all in this together, with some being luckier than others in meeting the various requirements to get a vaccine.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)We are the second province in line, so hopefully in a month or so....
We don't mind waiting... weather is nice, my daughter is an artist, she paints, etc., the house is large, there's a pool in the back...we cannot complain.... I hope all of us DUers will get vaccines PRONTO!!!!
GusBob
(7,286 posts)0 new cases O active cases for the 3rd week in a row since all of the adults now have been vaccinated.
Some of the poorest folks in America and the highest risk of folks. Used to feeling hopeless against the problems of modern America and the genocide heaped upon their Nation, now stand stronger and proud to protect their elders, children, families and culture. For them I say Hell Ya
I will celebrate their immunity as I wish. I will celebrate every person getting immunized because it is the best of science and wonderful for our entire country as a whole.
You build a wall one brick at a time, every jab makes us all safer
I encourage DUERS to share their vaccination stories they bring me that thing Obama was always talking about. Hope
oregonjen
(3,339 posts)Im truly very relieved for everyone getting vaccinated. Each person who gets vaccinated puts all of us a step closer to a hopefully better new normal. Im waiting my turn, but sure, Im human and jealous.
ShazzieB
(16,485 posts)I never would have admitted it if you hadn't, because I'm afraid of being judged, quite frankly. But since you said it, yeah, me, too.
mcar
(42,372 posts)being insensitive to those who have not yet?
I think everyone here is aware of how difficult it's been to get a vaccine appointment. I celebrate everyone who's been vaccinated and hope that the system opens up more for those who are still frustrated.
jumptheshadow
(3,269 posts)You are in a room with a family that is desperate for the vaccine. They have several family members who have been in treatment for years for cancer or heart problems or any number of conditions. They know their loved ones have a good quality of life but are threatened with a slow, lonely and painful death by this virus. They have been working strenuously for weeks to get their relatives appointments, in the face of the incompetence, inequity and favoritism bequeathed to us by the previous administration. They continue to persevere.
I've worked with you on the MIRT team and found you to be insightful.
That's why I don't believe you would walk into a room with this frustrated and beaten down family and celebrate loudly that you just scored a vaccine for yourself, especially since 2,047 other people had just said the same thing to them, using the same language, negating the PR "If I can do it, so can you" value of the conversation. I would like to think that, as a good Democrat, your first impulse would be to offer them a kind word and some help. And as a good Democrat, you would be interested in fixing the system.
And, by the way, I don't need an appointment, but others do, desperately.
mcar
(42,372 posts)with "celebrating." It's sheer, fcking relief.
I would like to think that, as a good Democrat, your first impulse would be to offer them a kind word and some help. And as a good Democrat, you would be interested in fixing the system.
As a good Democrat, I am capable of being happy for all of us who have gotten vaccines and, at the same time, offering help and kind words to those who haven't.
One does not cancel out the other. In fact, every time I hear about a friend getting the vaccine, I ask how they did it. That way, I can pass along anything they have to offer to others. That is how I am doing my very small part of helping others.
I do not think that being a Democrat means one has to hide the fact that they've gotten a life-saving vaccine. BTW, you don't necessarily know the health issues many of our DU brothers and sisters who have gotten the vaccine face.
And as a good Democrat, you would be interested in fixing the system.
Who says I'm not?
jumptheshadow
(3,269 posts)As I have said on a few occasions on this thread, a fact, that at this point, is being deliberately misinterpreted.
And if a DUer says, "I have been on cancer treatment for years, I got this life-saving vaccine, this is what it means to me, thanks to everybody who contributed" then it's not the same thing as the rote, non-informational post that I often see here and in other social media that says, "I got the vaccine, the floor operation was efficient, people were nice." If there is a kernel of helpful information, like, "the lines at so-and-so arena take an hour, bring a lawn chair," that is different, too, because at least you are helping people.
But then, I was taught that you don't eat a big plate of spaghetti in front of a person who is struggling on a medical fast. It's just a matter of having different values, I guess.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Nobody is gloating. Nobody is teasing others who haven't yet received their vaccine. I've seen nobody saying "🎵 Neener-neener! Ha-ha! I got my vaccine before YOU-uuu 🎵! So it is baffling to see OP's that act as though this is the case. It clearly isn't.
All I'm saying is that EVERY person who is vaccinated is a BENEFIT to every other person who is not yet vaccinated! Whether they (for medical reasons) cannot receive the vaccine, or whether they are still waiting for their group to be called-up... EVERYONE benefits.
Be joyous. Celebrate!
jumptheshadow
(3,269 posts)I have been in this "restaurant" (DU) for 17 years. I have donated many times, to DU and to Democratic causes linked to DU. I have served on MIRT, and if you ask the administrators, have protected the site when it needed it.
I don't post often, although I have logged in at least once a day, and often a few times a day, for the vast majority of time I have been here.
I enjoy the site but don't feel the need to blast my opinions all the time or to try to intimidate people who don't share my feelings about situations, although I will speak up when I feel strongly about something. In this case, I have been interacting in groups that are sharing frustrations and helping desperate people. I do believe strongly in what I say, enough to take some guff for posting it.
So your characterization of me as an outsider besieging a place of fine dining is as errant as the other points that are being deliberately misconstrued here. We have a difference of opinion. That's it. Now make sure to to be kind to the busboy. He may not be dining at the girlfriends' table, but he, like all of us, is doing his best to serve.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)But I can tell you this: It doesn't matter if someone is a "regular" at the restaurant, or if they dine there occasionally... that's a detail that's is totally irrelevant. Why bring it up at all. That type of ugly and selfish behavior from the "fasting" colonoscopy patient (ie: berating and nagging others trying to make them feel guilty for merely EATING and enjoying their food) is completely inappropriate. I'd have to conclude that the fasting colonoscopy patient is very self indulgent and s/he needs to be gently reminded that their hunger and temporary discomfort doesn't magically disappear simply because they want others to be miserable too.
Real life doesn't work that way. That's no excuse to be rude to people who are joyful and relieved. Nobody is taunting or teasing or ridiculing anyone. NOBODY is doing that! Anyone who claims or believes otherwise has bigger problems on their hands.
All I'm trying to say is this: I think it's better to focus ALL your attention on the actual issues that need to be addressed. Being angry at individuals who did NOT have those issues (or delays) does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to solve the problems that you're observing.
Suppressing others from being happy and sharing their success stories (or how they overcame problems) does NOT improve or streamline or increase availability for others, does it?
Stop being ANTAGONISTIC with folks who would otherwise be your natural allies.
mcar
(42,372 posts)I'll be the judge of my own values, thanks all the same.
upstatepolyglot
(3 posts)in my county. At the current rate of vaccination here, I should be eligible in about 33 months. This is beyond ridiculous!
Rhiannon12866
(205,849 posts)I entered all my information and it looked like it would be months for me as well. But it depends on your location. Anyone I knew who got it had to drive to another part of the state - but then CVS began scheduling appointments here in Northeastern New York and I received shot #1 yesterday - and I understand that Massachusetts is offering them as well. I don't know where you are, but I'm proof that there's hope, pharmacies are offering the vaccine now, just keep checking.
sheshe2
(83,860 posts)Two other people were helping me, sister and niece. My sister found it before I did.
Rhiannon12866
(205,849 posts)My housemate found they were offering them at CVS and he got his locally. I was in the dentist chair when he tried to reach me, of all things, so by the time I got an appointment, mine was 20 minutes away, but I have no complaints, it was a large CVS and they couldn't have been nicer or more efficient. I go back next month for shot #2!
Blues Heron
(5,939 posts)I think sharing good news on a discussion board is a good thing.
JI7
(89,262 posts)who are getting them and how happy they are about it.
Why do you want to take away this joy from us ?
And others getting the vaccines also helps protect those who haven't gotten it yet.
Don't turn this into some libertarian competition bs.
GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)This is the absolute stereotype of liberals by conservatives - joyless pricks who wont let anyone enjoy anything without telling them that they cant be openly joyful because someone somewhere has it worse.
I got my mother her first shot almost 3 weeks ago and she gets her second this week. The process was efficient, she didnt have any reaction, she gets her second shot this week, and I am completely overjoyed about it. And anyone who doesnt like it can have conjugal relations with a rusty pipe.
I havent had a vaccination because even though Im high risk, Im not eligible in my state yet. And you know what? Every single time I see someones gotten a vaccine, Im happy for them. And you know why? Because misfortune in my life does not upset me about someone else having good fortune (unless that other person is an asshole). I have diabetes. I dont get upset when I see people having birthday cake. My dad died of cancer. I celebrate every single time someone beats it. My mother has vascular dementia and I take care of her. I dont resent her friends who are still sharp, or other people whose parents never had that kind of decline.
And it looks like most people who responded to your post have viewpoints similar to mine. Maybe you should get a little more practice reading the room yourself. And maybe, just maybe, you could realize that every vaccination is a life saved and every event like that is worth celebrating in its own right, irrespective of anything else that is happening.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... that's it exactly!!!
beaglelover
(3,488 posts)mcar
(42,372 posts)Well said.
sheshe2
(83,860 posts)I thank you for your post. You are GA? Thanks again, from the bottom of my heart for helping to give us Biden AND you DIDgive us the Senate majority. We would not be where we are today, making progress, without you.
GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)I was when I established this account. Im in a much redder neighboring state now. But my sister worked the polls in GA as a Democrat and her kids old enough to vote did their part, too. I was so envious.
piddyprints
(14,648 posts)My husband got his first shot this week and Im not eligible for more than 6 months. My daughter may be eligible sooner than me, although shes 21 years younger and healthier, because she teaches college... as it should be. I am thrilled for every person who can be vaccinated. Period. It is moving along faster than it was. Eventually, everyone who wants to be vaccinated will be.
It has been a shitty situation because of the previous administration. And its demoralizing that closely half the country wants that shit show to be in power again. Still we are fortunate that we currently have a competent government. Lets be thankful for the success stories. Eventually, they will be ours as well.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)Enough to get an appointment. I wish I could walk into the pharmacy and get it like I did the flu shot.
All the stress,steps and confusion is overwhelming to me. I can't deal with it without breaking down. I feel so frustrated.
Why is getting a damn shot requiring website craziness and so many hoops to jump through.who thought this was a good idea.
I have diabeties and I am scared ,and just attempting to wade through the process makes me want to scream.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)In 15 min. slots. Worked for me & pharmacist was right on time with appts.
The CDC repurposed their (previous) flu vaccine locator just a few days ago to help people. Not sure, but am guessing providers have to sign up so maybe your local pharmacy will sign on if they have the required refrigeration capacity.
J&J's vax has just been approved for emergency use & does not require special handling (beyond normal refrigeration) from what I've read.
It helped me - 1st Pfizer in my arm in less than 24 hours without standing in long lines.
One nice feature is that you can search by manufacturer at the CDC site!
I know it is frustrating, but well worth the effort, imo. I had to keep refreshing the page for about an hour in order to secure an appointment.
Good luck to you!
On edit: here is the CDC vaccine locator site:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/reporting/vaccinefinder/about.html
Sorry I thought you'd responded to my posting sharing this site.
obamanut2012
(26,111 posts)in FL. They get a handful open, and they are all gone within seconds.
DenaliDemocrat
(1,476 posts)Every single vaccinated person should be celebrated! Come on people!
edhopper
(33,606 posts)people should post about both getting vaccines and not being able to get vaccines.
Why does another DUer's good fortune upset you.
Let's rejoice in our successes and share in each others pain.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)vaccinated makes us all safer and everyone who wants to be vaccinated will be. Within 3 months there will be enough vaccine supply to meet demand.
Those still waiting need to be grateful. Those with tendencies to undue resentment should try to control them. Some people are being shorted unjustly, most are not. We're only 38 days in from inaugurating a Democratic president. It's just the way it is as we battle to end the Trump/Republican pandemic holocaust that far more Americans than not caused to happen.
Where real sensitivity to need seems to be extremely lacking is for those in less privileged nations. The first grab of wealthy nations of the planet's vaccine will be a zero-sum tragedy for all those who die before it becomes available to them.
So, imo, "sensitivity" here in the U.S. means no to resentment and victimization syndromes and yes to gratitude for our great blessings, and yes to humility and bitter regret for the sacrifices of other people that are part of our great good fortune.
BannonsLiver
(16,439 posts)No Facebook posts or Tweets, or OPs here. Mostly for the reasons you mentioned but also because its nobodys GD business.
I dont really buy it when people say they are filled with joy and smile a lot when they hear of others getting vaccinated while being forced to wait themselves. That goes against virtually every law of human nature. Its just not credible.
Pongo
(4,170 posts)It does get tiresome to see a dozen or so threads about the same thing every day, but I just skip over them. I got a shot! It didnt hurt a bit! Kind of amusing actually.
iamateacher
(1,089 posts)[link:https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/vaccine-problems-pennsylvania-suburbs-biden-fema-covid-delaware-chester-20210227.html|
My husband I and drove 5 hours upstate to get his 1st vaccination. He teaches , is over 65, and his school has had a severe outbreak.
Kali
(55,019 posts)all the threads can start to create anxiety for people who have been trying and worrying, it can almost come across as repukish "I got mine, screw you"
but I also see others just sharing good new and also information about how it is going. a good compromise might be for people to add to already existing threads rather than everybody starting one of their own, but that is just DU, roll with it.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)You could submit your OP to them and make a couple of bucks. Seeing this published could be a balm for your lamentation.
cherish44
(2,566 posts)I got my vaccine through my work. I work in a school district and it was open to everyone who works here, any age, any circumstance due to us being frontline workers. About half of us choose to get the vaccine and half passed on it.