Lincoln Project

[Springerjjhicka]

I sure hope the Lincoln Project continues in some form. There was no media any more effective in combatting the Trump craziness than them.

[gab13by13]

1. Bad situation,

I hope someone fills the gap. They were publicizing what companies were giving campaign donations to the GQP traitors who voted to acquit.

[Springerjjhicka]

3. Is the entire organization folding

[onlyadream]

2. But weren't they just preaching to the choir?

Don’t get me wrong, any voice against Trump gets a thumbs up from me, but were they affective with Trumpsters? Because I’ve argued with Trumpsters, and they are totally brain washed by right wing media and there is NO changing their minds.

[Springerjjhicka]

6. They were effective with

Republicans who were not radicalized and independents.

[FSogol]

4. I disagree. They were a Republican group preaching to the choir.

Stacy Abrams was more effective in combating the Trump craziness than them.

They ended up the way all Repub groups end up. It is shame so many Democrats give them so much credit.

[Springerjjhicka]

8. Stacy Abrams was very effective

and I would not trade her for anything but we need any and all the help we can get with exposing Trump and his bots for what they truly are.

[babylonsister]

10. I think Steve Schmidt's memes and quotes

and diatribes while republican were worth their weight in gold.

[Springerjjhicka]

12. Absolutely. Very effective.

[LymphocyteLover]

5. Disagree-- they were highly overrated

there's no evidence that they helped us at all win votes. Plus they are Republicans and ultimately can't be trusted unless like Schmidt they actually convert to Democrats.

[Springerjjhicka]

13. Counterproductive attitude.

[LymphocyteLover]

14. you might want to read some Driftglass on the subject

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https://driftglass.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-lincoln-project-and-death-of-mauve.html

[zaj]

7. The problem is that...

Trump was authentically hostile and thus was able to authentically connect with MAGA voters *because* he's an authentically hostile person.

It's not remotely surprising to me that the people behind the authentically hostile (and powerful) content of the LP are not great people to work with and work for.

Think of it like method acting.

It's got to be nearly impossible to be both authentically hostile every day in your creative work and authentically inclusive every day in your business culture.

I'm not making excuses, as we should expect both. But I suspect a group like the LP is going to invest far more cultural energy into creating content that projects the anger of voters, than they do fostering a positive workplace.

If they change their workplace culture, I suspect the power of their content may decline.

We shall see.

[Springerjjhicka]

9. The goal is to neutralize Trump

You're making it far too complicated.

[zaj]

11. Well, yes and no...

I'm just describing the factors I see at play in this discussion.

The Lincoln Project will do whatever they and their donors choose. If their donors see the organizational culture and the media attention it brings as a problem, they will deal with it or lose funding.

But The Lincoln Project has said that they are going to fight the rising Authoritarian forces threatening our democracy. If they need support from the Obama/Biden/Harris coalition for their funding, these stories of organizational culture may be far more important that you seem to believe.

We shall see.

[LymphocyteLover]

15. the main problem I see is how much media attention they get that takes the place

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of good liberals, not johnny-come-lately's who actually helped create the monster they are now fighting. Also it's just not clear how effective they are at moving votes.

[zaj]

18. Well, I guess it's a question of who's attention are you seeking?

If both sides are fighting for the middle 20% of voters, then showcasing the crossover support (such as TLP) might do a lot more to secure those 20% of voters. Those 20% are where all of the power lies.

So while it might feel good to get and give credit to progressive efforts, it might be more valuable to spotlight the GOP voices who support Biden, thus making it more acceptable for sometimes GOP voters to support other Dems.

Coalition building is crazy sometimes.

[LymphocyteLover]

21. Yes-- assuming these people are truly persuasive to those in the middle

and I'm not saying they shouldn't get any attention but just that they may get more attention than they deserve.

[Springerjjhicka]

22. I think sensible democrats would say

that the all hands on deck approach with everyone doing their share is the best approach to protecting our democracy. The Lincoln Project was subverted by one pervert. Their ads were fantastic and they did not cost us a dime. It's going to take everything we can do hold the idiots at bay who want to destroy democracy and set up authoritarian government.

[Raine]

16. They were effective in bringing in money and keeping it for themselves.👎 nt

[FSogol]

17. In true GOP fashion. n/t

[Dorian Gray]

19. There are other groups

that are out there. Meidas Touch and Republican Voters Against Trump were two pretty decent groups. Check them out. Worth looking into their efforts.

I think Lincoln Project got a little cocky. And obviously did some stuff that wasn't above board. They need to reckon with it if they want the trust of voters.

[former9thward]

20. Lincoln Project's Steve Schmidt bought million-dollar Utah house as operatives got rich

I am sure the LP would love for it to continue "in some form".

Steve Schmidt, a co-founder of the anti-Trump Lincoln Project, purchased a million-dollar Utah home because the PAC raked in big earnings.

The Lincoln Venture noticed important monetary success main as much as the November election, elevating $90 million in whole since its creation in 2019, however the group has spent greater than $50 million on consulting corporations managed by the group’s leaders.

Schmidt bought a $1.four million “Mountain Trendy” customized residence in Kamas, Utah, with 5 bedrooms, seven baths and a “beautiful” view of the Uinta Mountains, in response to property information and actual property listings. He’s at present attempting to resell the house for more than $2.9 million.

https://mylocalnews.co.in/lincoln-projects-steve-schmidt-bought-million-dollar-utah-house-as-operatives-got-rich/

The LP was a scam to rip off rich liberals by out of work wanna be conservation "consultants". No evidence they swayed even one vote.