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RandySF

(61,445 posts)
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 07:52 PM Feb 2021

Jaguar to be fully electric by 2025

Jaguar announced Monday that 100 percent of its new vehicle sales will be electric vehicles by 2025, becoming the latest company to embrace the trend away from fossil fuel use in the face of growing concerns about climate change.

Jaguar CEO Thierry Bolloré made the announcement, according to Forbes and USA Today, while adding that electric vehicles would make up 60 percent of new vehicles sold under the company's Land Rover SUV brand by 2030 as well.

“The purity of electric is the next natural step. At the heart of Reimagine will be the electrification of both the Jaguar and Land Rover brands," said Bolloré, according to Forbes.

“By the middle of the decade, Jaguar will have undergone a renaissance to emerge as a pure electric luxury brand with a dramatically beautiful new portfolio of emotionally engaging designs and pioneering next-generation technologies," Bolloré added.

Within two decades, the company plans to achieve net-zero carbon emissions across the board, he continued.




https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/automobiles/538883-jaguar-to-be-fully-electric-by-2025

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Jaguar to be fully electric by 2025 (Original Post) RandySF Feb 2021 OP
I'll probably never own an electric car, because OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2021 #1
I will never own one because I can't afford one Ferrets are Cool Feb 2021 #6
Well, I assure you I am not a millionaire on any piece of paper. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2021 #7
after the 7500 USD tax rebate, you can get an extended range Nissan Leaf Plus for around 30K USD Celerity Feb 2021 #10
One interesting thing about EV's. There are Google Maps of EV charging stations. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2021 #12
Where are you going to find gasoline to run them??? Grins Feb 2021 #27
Well, as I mentioned, I am 68...by the time the market changes OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2021 #30
Sorry - mixed emotions.... MyOwnPeace Feb 2021 #2
Other Than WHITT Feb 2021 #3
Or V8 Corvettes Shermann Feb 2021 #4
I had a '62 Jag 3.8 sedan back in the day with a double overhead cam six. brush Feb 2021 #13
Thanks....had I a smartphone back in 1965....I could share the actual vehicle with you. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2021 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author brush Feb 2021 #17
Or, you could have bought a Triumph TR-6 with manual transmission and OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2021 #11
See post 13. I had that car, a '62 3.8 sedan with the walnut dash and trays in the back. brush Feb 2021 #14
Once electric cars take hold, there will be no stopping them. Blue_true Feb 2021 #18
If anything I would expect the price of gas to fall MichMan Feb 2021 #20
That is the point. Blue_true Feb 2021 #21
Air travel will then become prohibitively expensive if that was the case MichMan Feb 2021 #23
The aircraft industry is working on exactly that.. Grins Feb 2021 #28
Aircraft can fly with electric engines. Blue_true Feb 2021 #29
I still drive my 20 year old jag. Like to see the jaguar hood ornament rear up a bit, empedocles Feb 2021 #5
Rule of thumb when replacing petrol engine with electric: you only need half the hp. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #8
He would race at the Gator Nationals when I was in college. Blue_true Feb 2021 #19
How does the EV quarter mile time compare to the NHRA Top Fuel times? MichMan Feb 2021 #24
How high can the submarine fly? Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #26
I'll never own a Jag unless I win the lottery... Xolodno Feb 2021 #9
Cars, to me, are just tools to get me from point A to point B Chainfire Feb 2021 #16
That's how it is for a lot of people, except *marketing*. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #22
More luxury electric toys for the rich, starting out over $70,000, oh boy, who wants to buy me one? Baclava Feb 2021 #25

OAITW r.2.0

(25,212 posts)
1. I'll probably never own an electric car, because
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 07:58 PM
Feb 2021

Last edited Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:28 PM - Edit history (1)

(1) Love my 2007 Passat and 2005 Dodge Dakota PU and (2) my VW just turned 116K miles, (3) I love driving a 6 speed manual and (4) I am 68....so probably no electric car in my future. But....I did install an EV charging station in my garage at the time I installed my solar panels and battery back-up. It is the future of auto transport.

OAITW r.2.0

(25,212 posts)
7. Well, I assure you I am not a millionaire on any piece of paper.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 08:49 PM
Feb 2021

But, I do believe my residential investment also invested in the coop that built it. No return for me, personally, except it invests in our country's progressive future.

Celerity

(44,487 posts)
10. after the 7500 USD tax rebate, you can get an extended range Nissan Leaf Plus for around 30K USD
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:05 PM
Feb 2021

It has around a 230 mile range.

And scales of economy will soon lower entry-levels EV's well under 30K USD.

OAITW r.2.0

(25,212 posts)
12. One interesting thing about EV's. There are Google Maps of EV charging stations.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:13 PM
Feb 2021

And it's residential and commercial. Thing is, how does the State handle the taxable transaction (cash for power)? Lots of creative ways that allow folks to make some money, support a new auto technology, address climate change, etc.

Grins

(7,372 posts)
27. Where are you going to find gasoline to run them???
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 07:21 PM
Feb 2021

With fewer and fewer gas powered cars as time passes, gas stations will close. The economics to keep them open will just not be there.

Service places? Them too.

The value of gas powered cars in the used car market is going to plummet.

OAITW r.2.0

(25,212 posts)
30. Well, as I mentioned, I am 68...by the time the market changes
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 07:41 PM
Feb 2021

I probably won't be driving anyway....or, I will be changing to an electric powered bike.

MyOwnPeace

(16,987 posts)
2. Sorry - mixed emotions....
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 07:58 PM
Feb 2021

Love the idea of electric transportation - but MAN, there's NOTHING like the sweet sound of a Jaguar V-8 at wide-open throttle!!!

brush

(54,511 posts)
13. I had a '62 Jag 3.8 sedan back in the day with a double overhead cam six.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:13 PM
Feb 2021

That was the continuation of the LeMans engine. That had a snarl to it, and it was fast.

OAITW r.2.0

(25,212 posts)
15. Thanks....had I a smartphone back in 1965....I could share the actual vehicle with you.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:27 PM
Feb 2021

Not sure of the year, but we agree on the quality of the appointments!

Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #15)

OAITW r.2.0

(25,212 posts)
11. Or, you could have bought a Triumph TR-6 with manual transmission and
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:06 PM
Feb 2021

enjoyed the thrill of going 4 to 2 to 3 to 4. That was my idea of response and frame/suspension/tire support. I grew up in a time of Muscling up of the US market. Nova /Chevelle/Malibu SS 396's. The Judge. Roadrunner. Christ, they put a 300 ci engine in a Dodge Dart. Never went that way, was totally into small but great performance - a bud of mine bought a TR-6 and I loved the little beast. I later bought a 75 Alfa Romeo Alfetta Sedan. Ran like a champ in the summer, but the aluminum block engine DID NOT LIKE the cold.


One of my Dad's close friends bought a V6 Jag. And this sucker had burled fricken walnut wood as trays in the back. It was a elegant vehicle...circa 64 or so - totally a different car than GM, Ford, or Chrysler were producing. Because British vs. US culture.

brush

(54,511 posts)
14. See post 13. I had that car, a '62 3.8 sedan with the walnut dash and trays in the back.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:18 PM
Feb 2021

It was straight 6, not a V-6...a continuation of the 5 LeMans winners of the '50s. I was into old Jags back in the day...the ones that looked like Jags. The present-day cars are not distinctive, you can't tell if they're Jags from the other vehicles around, whereas one always knows Mercedes when you see one.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. Once electric cars take hold, there will be no stopping them.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:34 PM
Feb 2021

The horsepower issue is already making progress. My bet is that once EVs are the thing, the ones designed for horsepower will have lots of it.

BUT!!!!!! (and there always is)

Lots of people are going to hold on to their classic gassers, especially the ones with growling engines. Even when gas costs $100 per gallon.

MichMan

(12,091 posts)
20. If anything I would expect the price of gas to fall
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 11:11 PM
Feb 2021

Once the fleet is electrified, demand for gas will fall

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. That is the point.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 11:50 PM
Feb 2021

Demand will fall. Service stations will disappear. Gas will be hard to find for the nitch users. So the little gas there will be, will be expensive once refineries vanish (along with all gasoline related supply and delivery, except the tiny expensive supply that will serve vanity users). Because so little gas will be produced, the per gallon production and transport costs will go way up - large scale use of something drives the price down, gas in the age of electric vehicles will go in the opposite direction, low scale will lead to high prices.

Sort of like old cars. Old cars, even the muscle cars would be smoked by almost any modern car. Put those old cars cost a lot of money, all driven by a tiny market.

MichMan

(12,091 posts)
23. Air travel will then become prohibitively expensive if that was the case
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 11:56 AM
Feb 2021

Or do you think they will all be converted to electric ? Jaguar will find out if the customer demand for all electric is really there or not as 2025 will be here soon. Could be that they consider China to be their major market and are giving up on NA.

If we were really serious about weaning people away from petroleum because of climate change, we would institute hefty fuel taxes immediately. Gasoline taxes should be raised immediately by $2 per gallon, with an additional $1 per gallon each year afterwards. People will immediately demand electric vehicles instead of feeling like they are being forced on them.



Grins

(7,372 posts)
28. The aircraft industry is working on exactly that..
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 07:26 PM
Feb 2021

Will take a lot longer but it’s coming. They know.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
29. Aircraft can fly with electric engines.
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 07:31 PM
Feb 2021

It is a more complicated process than what vehicles face and planes would need extensive electric storage capacity and potentially backup carbon fuel. But no technical challenge is insurmountable.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
5. I still drive my 20 year old jag. Like to see the jaguar hood ornament rear up a bit,
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 08:32 PM
Feb 2021

once in a great while.

Hermit-The-Prog

(34,081 posts)
8. Rule of thumb when replacing petrol engine with electric: you only need half the hp.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 08:57 PM
Feb 2021

That nice, flat torque curve of an electric motor begins at 0 rpm.

Nose camera footage from when 82 y.o. Don Garlits set a new record for quarter mile in an EV.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. He would race at the Gator Nationals when I was in college.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:55 PM
Feb 2021

Him, Shirley “Cha Cha” Muldowney (the great female drag racer and three time Top Fuel Champion), and Don “The Snake” Prudhomme. A real group of larger than life characters.

MichMan

(12,091 posts)
24. How does the EV quarter mile time compare to the NHRA Top Fuel times?
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 11:59 AM
Feb 2021
"Electric drag racing is progressing fairly well, but it's nowhere near what the Top Fuel guys are doing. According to the National Electric Drag Racing Association, the current quarter-mile record for an electric dragster is 7.274 seconds @ 185 mph, set by the Swamp Rat team in Florida three years ago. That's crazy fast to you and me, but the 2.7 seconds between that and the Top Fuel record is an ocean of time in drag racing.

In order to cover that distance and relegate combustion to the history books, electric drag racing has to take a huge leap forward – a leap that will require the biggest, baddest, highest discharge, most powerful electric powertrain ever hooked up to a set of quivering tires."



[link:https://newatlas.com/top-ev-electric-drag-racing-top-fuel/50741/|

Xolodno

(6,454 posts)
9. I'll never own a Jag unless I win the lottery...
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:00 PM
Feb 2021

...but a former boss of mine owned one and she took me out to lunch. Damn, those are nice cars.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
16. Cars, to me, are just tools to get me from point A to point B
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:27 PM
Feb 2021

I don't demand high horsepower or a lot of bells and whistles. My last three cars have been KIAs. When you live in a transportation and food desert, you have to have a car. Old men aren't much good for driving 12 miles one way to buy groceries, in Florida Summers on a bicycle. By the time I got to the mill pond, you could call an ambulance for me.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
25. More luxury electric toys for the rich, starting out over $70,000, oh boy, who wants to buy me one?
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:15 PM
Feb 2021
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