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NBC/Marist - The Firewall Holds
Just out
FL +1 Obama
VA +1 Romney
OH +6 Obama
Without Ohio and Wisconsin, no path to 270 for Romney!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/11/1142964/-NBC-Marist-The-Firewall-Holds
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/10/14352371-nbcwsjmarist-poll-romney-gains-in-key-swing-states?lite
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Florida
LV Obama 48 (+1) Mitt 47 (+1)
RV Obama 49 (+1) Mitt 45 (+2)
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/news/Marist%20FL%2010-12.pdf
Ohio
LV Obama 51 (even) Mitt 45 (+2)
RV Obama 50 (-1) Mitt 45 (+2)
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/news/Marist%20OH%2010-12.pdf
Virgina
LV Obama 47 (-1) Mitt 48 (+2)
RV Obama 47 (-1) Mitt 47 (+2)
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/news/Marist%20VA%2010-12.pdf
Considering the hype, this is not good news for Mitt, a bounce that looks more like noise.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)GOTV + better debates = strong turnout.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Apparently LV are more energized in OH.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)speedoo
(11,229 posts)And not the "game changing" result that some here are promoting.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)He has made gains, though they are not enough to change the game.
Strong debate performances + effective ads + GOTV = WIN!
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)FL and VA bound to improve
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)We were doing well in Virginia and Florida before the debate debacle last week. Assuming we get shut out in the South (meaning we lose both FL and VA), Obama MUST win OH, MI, and WI, plus he must pick up at least ONE of these three: IA, CO, or NV.
If we lose OH (God Forbid), we must then sweep IA, CO, NV, and NH which will put us over the top by a whisker at 272 electoral votes.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)The other polls moved about a point or two.
All things considered, these are damn good numbers.
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)No question we have an easier path to 270 than Romney. The problem is we were looking pretty strong until after last week's debate and the momentum has clearly shifted. NYT's 538 website had Obama with an 80%+ chance winning just prior to the debate, and last night it was down to 67%. 4 to 1 odds became 2 to 1 odds in almost the blink of an eye.
We HAVE GOT to get the momentum back. One more shitty debate performance by either Obama or Biden, and we may be in deep trouble.
As a person with a so-called "pre-existing condition", I cannot afford to have the Affordable Care Act repealed (or severely scaled back). And when I think about the potential vacancies on the Supreme Court...we MUST WIN this election!!!
Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)It is a quite nice result, all things considered.
Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)and he's gonna win Wisconsin and Michigan. I personally think Nevada is gonna be a win, Iowa is next likely, Colorado will be super close. It's actually not looking good for Mittfalca.