Romney Is RE-IMPLODING! The Romney UNRAVEL Has Begun Anew!

[napkinz]

A week after his debate "victory" he's back to making gaffes, re-inserting his foot into his mouth.

First, on the National Defense Authorization Act, Romney said today at a townhall meeting that he couldn't say, had he been president, whether he would have vetoed it, and that "as to that specific piece of legislation, I'm happy to take a look at that."

But Martin Bashir showed a clip of Romney saying during the primary debates that he absolutely would have signed it!

Second, on the issue of abortion, we have Romney now saying he has no plans to push for legislation limiting it, this after saying all year that he would sign a personhood bill if it came to his desk.

The Romney Unravel Has Begun! (again)

[msongs]

1. maybe the next debate will save him (again) nt

[napkinz]

4. no, next time President Obama will nail him

I think the president is well aware he can't let anything slide this time.

[azureblue]

83. I think so, too

It appears to me that Obama was expecting a moderated debate, but Romney steamrolled over a weak moderator. To anyone with half a brain, it was obvious that Romney was a flim flam man putting one over on the rubes. It was style over substance, but Obama did not shift gears from a reasoned debater to a head hunter. And I believe that Obama had a reason for that - he isn't dumb. My guess is that, during the debate, Obama saw what was happening, heard the lies, and basically gave Romney all the rope he needs to hang himself. It appeared to me that Obama just stepped back and let Romney run with his act, knowing there will be a second chance, and the second chance - the second non town hall on Oct. 22 debate, will be the one that will count. That is the one where the knockout blow will be delivered. This seems to prove true in the post debate Political ads- they are all pointing out the lies and forcing Romney to explain himself. Which, of course, Romney won't do. It also seems that, the way those ads are coming out and their focus, they are designed to frame Romney, and push him into a corner. I notice that Romney's little snake oil salesman game falls apart when he is forced to think on his feet, and is forced to relate to "his lessors". He has proven to get dodgy, first, then snippy and mean - a high class bully act, when he is cornered. Romney has a big flaw- he can't think on his feet and he plays the same game every time - almost never changing the script. I am sure that Obama and his team has studied Romney's act by now, and Obama's post debate response has all the earmarks of rope a dope. I expect Romney to come out with the same smiling snake act, and Obama to throw him off his game, making Romney implode.

[timber84]

28. Awfully down on the Prez today aren't ya?

Wonder why?

[one_voice]

36. Yeah, it's only today...

[gateley]

50. +1

[emulatorloo]

70. LOL n/t

[JNelson6563]

61. Today? lolz

This dog and pony show is obvious to everyone but MIRT and the Admins, apparently.

Julie

[napkinz]

62. did someone say dog?

[daligirl519]

46. Maybe the president will do the. . .

Jules Winnfield imitation that DUers seem to want. The ABM will save us, surely.

[OldDem2012]

59. You continue to pound Obama's performance during the first debate...

...if you've got a better candidate, then go find him or her, and then vote for him or her.

[denverbill]

80. You know what would be an AWESOME debate? Romney versus Romney!

He could take turns standing at each podium alternately defending and attacking every position he has taken on abortion, gay rights, foreign policy, tax cuts, etc. I'd pay to watch that.

[donnasgirl]

89. Do not let off

To all the underground brothers and sisters,don't let up lets send this prick packing,the polls are to close.If we send him and lying Ryan to the curb,just remember the tea Farty goes with them.

[DemzRock]

2. To quote Fluttershy, "yay!" n/t

[still_one]

3. His campaign promise was to stop planned parenthood funding. / nt

[napkinz]

8. edited

another member found the info for me so I'm removing the question I posed in this reply

[Bigleaf]

5. While we want him to keep talking and inserting his foot in his mouth, the GOP...

[napkinz]

18. I wonder how many heads are exploding in Freeperville

As Ted Kennedy had once said, Romney is "multiple choice" on Roe V. Wade.

[CthulhusEvilCousin]

54. They've entered

full blown mass delusion over there. They don't care. A few people spoke up about Mitt's flips and were generally assaulted by the enforcement committee. The majority have devolved into mindless animals singing Ra-Ra Mitt. The hate for Obama is palpable, and they have long since let go of any care about platforms or positions.

If Mitt loses, and hopefully he will, there will be suicides. Mark it.

[napkinz]

32. Mr. Say Anything!

[mucifer]

6. As long as he is polished for the debates and can do a good acting job no one cares.

Repubs can decide which pieces of etch a sketch they like and ignore it when he says the opposite five minutes later.

[lobodons]

45. Reminds me of Game Change

Reminds me of Game Change where they just had Palin memorize 23 answers for the debate.

[C_U_L8R]

7. Phew. We're back to our normal programming

We were off in the Outer Limits there for a bit.

[DonViejo]

9. Romney Declines To Take Position On NDAA At Town Hall

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251130743

[napkinz]

11. thank you so much

I can edit my original post.

Thank you.

[DonViejo]

13. No problem, napkinz

Glad to help out when I can

[RichGirl]

10. Is the media going to cover this....or....

will they once again rehash the first debate.

[napkinz]

14. I hope Rachel and Ed and Lawrence will cover this tonight

And the president's surrogates should be jumping on it.

We have to make this a talking point.

The Romney Re-Implosion

The Romney Unravel ... again!

[hifiguy]

12. It's no wonder.

As Gore Vidal once observed about Bush the First, he sounds so garbled because he has told so many lies to so many people he can no longer rememember what lie he told to which people.

[jimlup]

15. The problem is that Martin Bashir

isn't mainstream enough to get the folks who need to realize this the information. We know it but we are already convinced he's a fool.

Until he makes a gaff big enough for CNN and FOX to HAVE to recognize it - nothing will happen. He's a great reminder to all of us that elections don't really start 'til 6 weeks out or so. He's apparently a master at it the fucker.

[Cha]

25. Then, We, The Social Media, have to do Our Job

and Make It VIRAL!

[napkinz]

34. Exactly!

And the president's surrogates have to push it every time they appear on all the network and cable news shows.

[Cha]

37. Meant to thank you earlier, napkinz!

[napkinz]

39. you're welcome

Romney is a gift that keeps on giving. He just can't help himself.

We just had to be patient. (A lot of us -- including myself -- panicked after the debate.)

And so, here he goes again!

[Samantha]

40. Well, the Reverend Al just said Mitt just told another lie about not telling the truth

I just turned it on, so I am hoping the story will follow instead of learning I just missed it....

Sam

[napkinz]

63. here's a link

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45755884/

[liberalmuse]

16. Well, the media tried.

You can only prop up a gaffe machine for so long. You can paint and perfume a turd, but after a couple of days, you're going to get stink again.

[JDPriestly]

17. Romney is consistently anti-abortion.

These are his positions:

he has no plans to push for legislation limiting it, this after saying all year that he would sign a personhood bill.

He won't push for abortion legislation but if a personhood bill comes to his desk (and it will if he is elected along with a Republican Congress), he will sign it.

Romney is consistently anti-abortion. He is just being careful how he says it.

[KamaAina]

47. He wouldn't have to push for legislation

just appoint a few anti's to the Extreme Court, then wave bye-bye to Roe.

[VWolf]

85. He's worse. He's anti-choice. n/t

[LondonReign2]

19. Isn't lying against the Morman code?

I'd pay serious money to see a townhall member ask him this

[japple]

49. Not against the mormon code if you're lying for the church!!

Now if you're lying for Jesus, that's another story.

[liberalmuse]

58. Nope.

As a former Mormon, I can tell you that it is okay to lie to "outsiders" for the greater good of The Church. You know, it's a microcosm of the Conservative belief that, "the ends justify the means", and "you have to break a few eggs to make a cake". That bullshit.

[mojo2012]

20. At a point now.....

I don't think Romney can remember what he's said in the past nor be able to remember his most recent positions. It's getting to be TOO many flip flops - ha-ha!

[nc4bo]

21. I watched that live and Romney was a fluttering floundering bat flapping in the wind...

No effing clue and this was after the man asking the question elaborated on it.

I think I like the Romney Family intervention - let Mitt be Mitt!

[napkinz]

23. Let Mitt Be Mitt ...

... in other words, FULL OF SH*T!

[rebuke]

22. More good stuff

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

If Romney was given an enema you could bury him in a matchbox.
I know it's tastless....But TRUE

[pokerfan]

33. applies at the poker table as well

You see this too often in the movies, "I think you're bluffing so I raise all-in!"

[ChaoticTrilby]

65. Ah, Napoleon...

Thank you for that quote. I don't care about the guy's political beliefs - Napoleon was, for the most part, freaking smart.
Let's just let Mitt crash and burn, guys...burn, burn, burn away.

[Cha]

24. VIRAL IT!

[JI7]

26. This is nothing new, the media will not report these things, they don't care if he lies througout

the debate.

[napkinz]

30. the media will have NO choice if

... the president's surrogates bring it up EVERY time they go on all the cable and network news shows!

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

27. Has he ever really "raveled"?

He's been like various strands trying to form themselves into a rope but never somehow pulling it off. Apart from one debate night where he made a lot of aggressive noise without saying anything of substance or memorable, he's been unraveled throughout.

[Democratopia]

29. Well, most of the media are giving him a free ride for simultaneously having opposed policies

for different audiences. Obama has to expose his lies and humiliate him at the next debate, which shouldn't be difficult.

[rhett o rick]

31. He was hoping for a bloody battle at the debate. Take the attention away from his gaffes.

Turns out his aggression looked desperate. Pres Obama needs to remain cool and in control. Let Rmoney destroy himself.

[ashling]

35. "back to"?

The Romney Unravel Continues

[Coyotl]

38. So, what flip-flops more than Romney?

Maybe a tumbleweed in a windstorm maybe

[rebuke]

41. More

They have named a popular food after Romney....it's called the "waffle".

[Coyotl]

71. Only McDonalds has more total flips than Romney

[napkinz]

55. here's the real Romney "bounce"

[Swede Atlanta]

42. Be very careful about how you characterize things.

(1) NDAA
- If he indeed previously stated categorically he would sign it and now is saying he could not say one way or the other as to whether he would sign it he this is a gaffe. He would have to now say something like, yes previously I said I would sign it. But since then my team have taken a closer look at it and I think my statement was premature. I would need to study it more carefully to see if there were areas about which I had concerns....some bullshit like that.

(2) Abortion
- There is my friends a difference between saying Robme would sign a personhood bill (which in my legal opinion is unconstitutional but probably not if reviewed by the Roberts Court) and saying he has no plans to push for that legislation. On the one hand he is saying he would sign something if it landed on his desk (passive) and his pushing for that type of legislation. I think knowing that most Americans support a woman's right to choose, he will pander to his base by saying he would sign a personhood bill and even say that his personal convictions are that life begins at conception and still say publicly that he has no plans to put it on his "to do" list - i.e. to mention in SOTU, or otherwise advocate for it.

[jsmirman]

43. I'd add to that getting exposed over his fraudulent memories of Glen Doherty

inauthentic Romney is back and at it again.

[joc46224]

44. Here's what he said about abortion in 1994 (debate with Kennedy)

Wow, in light of Romney's debate with Obama this debate is eerily similar in that Romney just outright lies through his teeth to say what he thinks will get him elected. Watch this video through until the end as in the last few seconds Romney mentions a "touching" story about a relative who almost died due to an unsafe abortion, which supposedly caused him to have an epiphany about the need for safe and legal abortions, A POSITION FROM WHICH HE WOULD NOT WAVER <- his words.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

48. The undecideds and vote shifting comes from what the candidates say, not the media.

[Sugarcoated]

51. Gaffes ex Rmoney machina

The boy can't help it

[ChairmanAgnostic]

52. nope, not at all. This is the wrong way to look at it.

Romney has, does and will lie, to suit the audience. The problem is that his base expects it. The bigger problem is that most of Americans don't listen hard enough to realize all the lies that he tells on every, not just some issue. The problem is, when he is aggressive, his "show" is more impressive than Obama's was. Emotional impressions matter, and if you take every position on an issue, at some point, your audience will appreciate that you agree with them, at least at that moment.

He is not imploding yet. But I have no doubts that he will.

[davidwparker]

53. I either heard on a podcast or on Current/MSNBC, someone having clips of Romney saying

one thing, immediately followed by him saying the opposite.

Several 30-minute ads like this run for the next month should do it. Let Romney impeach Romney's own words and credibility.

[napkinz]

56. Romney Debates Romney

[davidwparker]

64. Oh. My. Goodness.

That needs to come from the O campaign with I approve this message.

Thanks for the reply.

[napkinz]

66. do we know if anyone in the administration or from the campaign team reads DU?

nt

[ChaoticTrilby]

67. Wow.

I'm pretty sure I could watch a good ten minutes of that stuff without getting bored. Oh, Mittens, will you ever stop donating material for Comedy Central? I hope not. Not until the end of this election anyway...

[KurtNYC]

57. I think the "legislation against abortion" thing is just a word game

Abortion is legal because of a Supreme Court decision so the easiest change back would be another SC decision reversing it and the next term may see the naming of one or more SC Justices so he could do it that way.

[Coyotl]

72. BINGO. He wants to see Roe v Wade overturned instead.

[napkinz]

60. YES! Ed just said Romney is imploding!

Everyone, watch The Ed Show!!!!!

[Cha]

68. Much Better, Ed, talking about MittLies IMPLODING!

[lonestarnot]

69. That didn't take long. Toenail chewer.

[Maraya1969]

73. I wish someone had a video of this. I tried to find it. I want to see how he reacts when

confronted with one of his other selves.

[napkinz]

74. The president will force Romney to confront Romney in the next debate

I jusy worry ... what if there are THREE Romneys!

[nc4bo]

75. Here you go....Link to entire video.

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/romney-town-hall-in-mount-vernon-ohio-nXLUsQN6QGyh6zwOEQANEg.html

Fast forward to the 25:45 mark for the Section 1021 question. Watch Romney's face - Gotcha ole boy!!

[valerief]

76. This isn't an unraveling. This is his normal. nt

[napkinz]

79. well with the debate he created the APPEARANCE

... that he got his sh*t together.

He had a good PERFORMANCE.

It took six weeks of practice to pull it off.

But now he's back to being Mitt.

His one-night show is over.

[valerief]

81. Not to me, no matter how often the media tells me otherwise.

He looked like a bullying asshole to me. And over-caffeinated/crystalled. Of course, we know he was all Koched-up.

[graham4anything]

77. 192 just think of 192 just think of 192 then celebrate.

Romney doesn't have that luxury.

[Puzzledtraveller]

78. voters minds are made up, nothing to unravel anymore

[treestar]

82. Almost Palinesque

How can a candidate for POTUS not have an answer to that? In the dodge, he says he will look at that. If he's President, will he do us the favor of looking it over?

[DearAbby]

84. Romney doesnt have to sign legislation to end Abortion

Just select two supreme court justices...Apparently Romney can make all the gaffes he wants...Obama can't afford to

[leftyohiolib]

86. remember the kerry/bush election- flip-flop was all you heard from them, kerry the flip-flopper

they carried flip-flops with them threw them around at rallies hootin and hollerin about the flip-flopper and how he could be president b/c of the flip-flop.and now their ready to elect the top turd of flip-flopper mountain

[ChiciB1]

87. I've Become Overwhelmingly Cynical...

So many lies, blatant flip-flops & flubs, makes me wonder what THEY know that I don't. How this race could be so close is beyond my comprehension!

I live in Super Red Sarasota County & try to check every car as it goes by, but not seeing many Romney/Ryan bumper stickers. Do the same thing at parking lots or other places and still few bumper stickers. And when I say Red I mean RED! Sarasota is either 2nd or 3rd in per capita income in this state. Vern Buchanan (my representative) is so corrupt & even was being investigated by the ethics committee, but I bet you he will win for a 3rd time. I read he was one of the 10 most corrupt representatives in Congress, but it won't surprise me if he wins.

Keith Fitzgerald is running against him, but this county seems to ALWAYS have some voting glitches but the outcomes never change. I vote absentee because we are supposed to be able to check the website to make sure our vote got counted. But given how easily stuff can get hacked, I wonder if it's true.

[napkinz]

92. "How this race could be so close is beyond my comprehension!"

How did this nation elect Reagan and Dubya?

How is THIS race in 2012 so close?

It boggles the mind.

[mgardener]

88. Ryan too!!!!!

Remember, Ryan lies too.
This is a man that lied about running a marathon for God's sake, how are you going to trust him on anything important.
Why would you?
If I met this man at a party and found he lied about his time running in a marathon, I would not trust anything he said, would not have anything to do with him.

How can they say romney 'won" the debate with all the lies and flip flops?

You can't win when you lie.

[proReality]

90. He's like a corkscrew

First he turns this way, then that way, then back around again...

[napkinz]

93. Romney Unhinged

[EmeraldCityGrl]

91. Evangelicals are just looking for a reason to stay home

Glad willard is giving them one.