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Brian Schatz . We won the Senate. We get the gavels. (Original Post) Autumn Jan 2021 OP
Hey biden you watching here's what you get trying to work with the traitors Fullduplexxx Jan 2021 #1
Moscow Mitch will obstruct in every way his evil reptillian brain can contrive. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2021 #2
McConnell would be playing cutthroat if the situation were reversed, he is as intent on destroying Autumn Jan 2021 #16
Yes. He has dual goals ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2021 #19
Yes, that is exactly where we are at. We could all die on the streets and he wouldn't care. Autumn Jan 2021 #20
Three goals. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2021 #32
Yeah, he considers that his just reward for working to give us an 1850s central government. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2021 #33
End. The. Filibuster. nt. Mariana Jan 2021 #3
There's not enough votes Fullduplexxx Jan 2021 #6
It only takes a majority. BComplex Jan 2021 #7
You are correct. William769 Jan 2021 #9
We have not organized yet. Kamala can't stop a filibuster of the organizing principle so it Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #10
See that is the problem we can't. Kamala can't vote on this ...if she could it would already be Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #14
They can submit & vote on legislation without organizing the senate. BComplex Jan 2021 #29
There are 3 or 4 dems that will not vote for ending the f.b. Fullduplexxx Jan 2021 #23
I imagine there are behind the scenes negotiations regarding a ton of issues wiggs Jan 2021 #4
As I've said before--- lastlib Jan 2021 #5
So what is your plan...the bottom line is McConnell wants to take the filibuster of the table... Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #11
No we have 50+1 . It's the Cheney margin Fullduplexxx Jan 2021 #24
I would hire the sleaziest private detectives i could and have them drag up all kirkuchiyo Jan 2021 #28
THat sounds more like Trump PinkTiger Jan 2021 #34
No drmeow Jan 2021 #41
I would be for that. I live in Ky and I've been fighting against Mitch fwvinson Jan 2021 #35
I believe a rabid dog still has a soul, republicans don't. Autumn Jan 2021 #15
If it is 50-50, is there a majority leader? marie999 Jan 2021 #8
Schumer is the leader. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #12
50+1 Fullduplexxx Jan 2021 #25
dont make us send Mamala over there samnsara Jan 2021 #13
Thread winner! Wawannabe Jan 2021 #17
Fukkin' Aye Stinky The Clown Jan 2021 #18
Elections have consequences. Either they can approve these very qualified candidates or Biden can onecaliberal Jan 2021 #21
Can someone put a vote on the table to censure McConnell? BComplex Jan 2021 #22
Time for a 51-50 vote to nuke the filibuster. roamer65 Jan 2021 #26
so divvy & jar the turtle's 'nads as spoils - one each for VP Harris and Speaker Pelosi bringthePaine Jan 2021 #27
As long as that man is in office, the filibuster has to be suspended Warpy Jan 2021 #30
DURec leftstreet Jan 2021 #31
This is a very serious subject and I agree with Brian Schatz 100%, BUT... Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #36
What does he think hes gonna get out of this? Volaris Jan 2021 #37
Couldn't agree more.. mountain grammy Jan 2021 #38
You simply cannot trust McConnell. CanonRay Jan 2021 #39
Tell Mitch to sit down and listen to Chuck. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2021 #40

Autumn

(45,371 posts)
16. McConnell would be playing cutthroat if the situation were reversed, he is as intent on destroying
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:34 PM
Jan 2021

the Biden admin as he was the Obama admin.

Hermit-The-Prog

(34,948 posts)
19. Yes. He has dual goals ...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:43 PM
Jan 2021

Moscow Mitch wants to prevent Democrats receiving any credit for any accomplishment, and he wants a Federal government that is nearly impotent, outside of national defense.

Autumn

(45,371 posts)
20. Yes, that is exactly where we are at. We could all die on the streets and he wouldn't care.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:52 PM
Jan 2021

Eighty percent of the world could die on the streets and they would be just fine with the military controlling the few people left.

BComplex

(8,541 posts)
7. It only takes a majority.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:18 PM
Jan 2021

It's not a 2/3 issue. It's a "rule" and we can make all the rules we want to.

Demsrule86

(69,386 posts)
10. We have not organized yet. Kamala can't stop a filibuster of the organizing principle so it
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:20 PM
Jan 2021

is a 50 50 stalemate right now...don't know how we fix this

Demsrule86

(69,386 posts)
14. See that is the problem we can't. Kamala can't vote on this ...if she could it would already be
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:24 PM
Jan 2021

done. This is organizing the Senate...not legislation.

BComplex

(8,541 posts)
29. They can submit & vote on legislation without organizing the senate.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:15 PM
Jan 2021

And the first rule can be that the filibuster is against the rules when it comes to organizing the senate. And then later we can vote on the filibuster.

wiggs

(7,884 posts)
4. I imagine there are behind the scenes negotiations regarding a ton of issues
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:39 PM
Jan 2021

including investigations of members, of NRA, revisiting Russia, impeachment, nominees, senate rules, etc. horsetrading going on, probably, so GOP are being dicks so that they can trade NOT being dicks for something they want. Classic Trump too.

lastlib

(23,716 posts)
5. As I've said before---
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:44 PM
Jan 2021

Never offer your hand to a rabid dog unless you are prepared to club it into submission. You can substitute "republikan" for "rabid dog," and it still works.

Demsrule86

(69,386 posts)
11. So what is your plan...the bottom line is McConnell wants to take the filibuster of the table...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:22 PM
Jan 2021

it stays. And Schumer says no....how would you handle it? We have a 50 50 Senate.

kirkuchiyo

(402 posts)
28. I would hire the sleaziest private detectives i could and have them drag up all
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:06 PM
Jan 2021

kinds of lovely information on the criminality of McConnell and his wife. Then tell him to STFU and take it or he is going to prison.

 

fwvinson

(488 posts)
35. I would be for that. I live in Ky and I've been fighting against Mitch
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:46 PM
Jan 2021

since his sorry face first appeared. Kentucky, especially East of Lexington, Richmond and Covington, for the most part, are as crazy fascist as you can get. I've always wanted that part of the state to fall in a hole or something. Only one thing I can stand with these people, they really love their UK Basketball.

onecaliberal

(34,166 posts)
21. Elections have consequences. Either they can approve these very qualified candidates or Biden can
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:53 PM
Jan 2021

appoint them as acting. We should not listen to or care what the republicans want.

Warpy

(112,145 posts)
30. As long as that man is in office, the filibuster has to be suspended
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:27 PM
Jan 2021

I don't think abolishing it is appropriate, since it's a useful tool for a minority party, which used to use it rarely and only when the other party was trying to pass something really repugnant. McConnell has abused it for far too long and will abuse it now. It has to go until he does. Suspend it for 6 years and require a vote at the end of that period on whether or not to restore it.

The Senate was designed as a deliberative body with a majority vote, except in special cases like removal from office after impeachment.

The founders knew about cults. They just didn't envision half of Congress would be taken over by one.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,229 posts)
36. This is a very serious subject and I agree with Brian Schatz 100%, BUT...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:51 PM
Jan 2021

did anyone else look at this post and IMMEDIATELY think to themselves...
"that poor boy must have had a terrible childhood growing up with that name"?

Volaris

(10,358 posts)
37. What does he think hes gonna get out of this?
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:53 PM
Jan 2021

Kamala makes the Majority. Does mitch wanna change the rules so that the minority party runs committees?

That's just silly.

Is this some kind of trial balloon to see what kinds of nonsense we will put up with, and to what degree?

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,370 posts)
40. Tell Mitch to sit down and listen to Chuck.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:43 PM
Jan 2021

He will explain how unity works when you've lost the election, despite great effort to suppress the vote. Eventually we get to be a democracy again. And fix Republican made toxic inequality.

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