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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRegarding that Senate "power sharing arrangement" that has set some folks' hair on fire
The press is doing a disservice by saying that Schumer and McConnell have reached a "power sharing arrangement," as if Schumer is giving McConnell something he doesn't already have.
That's not what's happening.
What is being discussed relates mostly to how committees will operate in a 50-50 Senate. Committee membership is based on the numbers of Republicans and Democrats in the larger body. When the Senate is 50-50, committee membership is also usually 50-50. And the Vice President has no tie-breaking role, since they only break ties in floor votes. Under normal Senate rules, it's difficult for measures to get out of committee and to the floor on a tie vote. Things get stalled, the minority party (i.e., the party without the Vice President) can exercise outsized power, etc.
So, they're working out how to manage this and they're using the rules set in 2001 when the Senate was 50-50. The plan they're discussing would make Schumer the Majority Leader, give all of the committee chairs to the Democrats, and allow tie votes on bills and nominations to be sent out of committee to the floor.
In reality, the 50-50 split in committee means the two parties already share power. This arrangement simply works out how that shared power will work so that Senate business isn't forever stuck in committee and Republicans can't cause mischief they would no doubt do without such an arrangement.
I hope this helps folks calm down. Schumer is not "caving" and he's not "giving away power." He's doing exactly what he needs to do to make sure the Senate Democrats can more easily and effectively advance their agenda, which was the point of fighting for a Democratic Senate majority.
This is much ado about nothing.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)SharonAnn
(13,781 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)They set their hair afire.
William769
(55,150 posts)Yuck.
TomSlick
(11,134 posts)There has been much misunderstanding here.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)Kittycow
(2,396 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,820 posts)This isnt the time to doubt our dem leaders! The ship didnt sink because of them... lets give them credit for knowing whats the right thing and when to do it.
peggysue2
(10,849 posts)And
brush
(53,972 posts)And then our VP advantage comes in.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)I believe a 50-50 vote with the Democrats voting no is also treated as a Democratic majority and that wouldn't come out of committee.
brush
(53,972 posts)leftstreet
(36,119 posts)They've just won a victory, but they already need people out there ExPlaiNiNg headlines that make them look weak.
smh
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)You know what would work better? If Democrats to actually READ the story instead of going off all half-cocked because they only read the headline and didn't bother to read what was under it.
That's not the fault of the Democratic leadership. That's on folks on the ground.
leftstreet
(36,119 posts)One article's quote:
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/schumer-mcconnell-senate-deal-460367
People voted for a strong repudiation of Trump, McConnell and the GOP.
No one gives a shit about being "reasonable" or taking an "easy path" forward.
That's how midterms get lost
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Much more interested in that than in exacting revenge.
The best way to "repudiate" Trump is to pass bills and nominations that actually help the American public instead of holding out in order to show how tough we can be, and getting nothing accomplished in the process.
ancianita
(36,217 posts)pnwmom
(109,024 posts)RussellCattle
(1,537 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,365 posts)can committee members vote virtually?
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)This was allowed even before COVID.
Mr.Bill
(24,365 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)sheshe2
(84,057 posts)You are the bestest buddy to have.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)sheshe2
(84,057 posts)Glad you are here. You are good for DU.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,976 posts)But of course we always have to have a few hissy fits about how Democrats suck, don't we?
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)sheshe2
(84,057 posts)cayugafalls
(5,659 posts)Thanks for the explanation.
herding cats
(19,569 posts)If anyone here doesn't recall what it was like back before Trump, I'll be happy to explain the MSM pre Trump in two sentences.
If a Republican does something wrong they scream both sides do it!!
If a Democrat is being smeared by the RW media they become 'fair and balanced' and will be giving extra airtime/print to the smear.
At DU heads will explode, curses will be said and grudges will be formed. There will be deletions posts and members will be banned.
It feels so good to be back to state where I know what to expect each day when I look at my pushes! No blatant racism, no children in cages, no kissing up to global dictators and no childish name calling from our President. Just a stable leadership and good legislation with all our best interests at its core.
Cha
(298,021 posts)of how That Works! So wonderful to have real information & not just reactions without knowing all the important Details!
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But most of this information is available just by googling it. It's frustrating that people are so quick to fly off the handle based on the headlines without bothering to read all the words that follow it.
Cha
(298,021 posts)it through your knowledge.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)hay rick
(7,662 posts)scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)relayerbob
(6,561 posts)PatrickforO
(14,604 posts)That's the way we move forward, and I've had quite enough of McConnell smothering bill after bill.
I don't mind not always getting my way, but we have to have the debate and the vote.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)If they work out this deal, the Democrats will be able to get bills out of committee pretty easily, as long as they all stick together. Without this arrangement, the Republicans could bottle up everything in committee if THEY stick together.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)our government works.
crickets
(25,990 posts)I was a little confused about what was going on and why some were so upset. The explanation makes sense and sounds like it's going to be a good thing, a business as usual kind of thing. Hooray for norms and normalcy.
Docreed2003
(16,900 posts)Hope more folks read this! Thanks StarfishSaver!
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)between the two parties.
So what you're saying now would be a lot better than that.
betsuni
(25,795 posts)Karma13612
(4,555 posts)Thanks for the reality check!!
Amaryllis
(9,527 posts)keeping bills stuck in committee when they are tied and not moving to the floor?