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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 02:26 PM Jan 2021

UPDATE: ex U.S. Marine Donovan Crowl & Army vet Jessica Watkins arrested in crackdown on Militia gro


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John Scott-Railton
@jsrailton
UPDATE: ex U.S. Marine Donovan Crowl & Army vet Jessica Watkins arrested in crackdown on Militia groups per @washingtonpost.

They were described @RonanFarrow's 2nd piece about Jan 6th.

By @DevlinBarrett & @hsu_spencer 1/
Source: https://washingtonpost.com/national-security/oath-keeper-three-percenter-arrests/2021/01/17/27e726f2-5847-11eb-a08b-f1381ef3d207_story.html





2/ These individuals were among those spotted as part of a disciplined line of individuals wearing military-style gear marching up the #Capitol steps.

3/ @RonanFarrow's 2nd piece is a must read. Paints a picture of Donovan, a man whose racism, anti-government views & militia activity frightened all around him.

Also describes how sleuthing efforts of many led to the identification.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/a-former-marine-stormed-the-capitol-as-part-of-a-far-right-militia









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UPDATE: ex U.S. Marine Donovan Crowl & Army vet Jessica Watkins arrested in crackdown on Militia gro (Original Post) soothsayer Jan 2021 OP
Kick dalton99a Jan 2021 #1
What are those 3 long blocks strapped to jessica's vest? Why is that freaking me out? lindysalsagal Jan 2021 #2
Ammo pouches. underpants Jan 2021 #6
It staggers the mind. lindysalsagal Jan 2021 #8
Omg! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #9
These people are scary AF LeftInTX Jan 2021 #10
Damn fucking jerks. triron Jan 2021 #11
They do look scary. Not at all like the guy whose picture I saw yesterday whose "militia".... EarnestPutz Jan 2021 #12
YES Leghorn21 Jan 2021 #3
They were both in the videos from Parler that ProPublica posted in their timeline csziggy Jan 2021 #4
the worst part of this is... stillcool Jan 2021 #5
Agree... NHvet Jan 2021 #14
What can the VA do? Hand out benefits and administer health care. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2021 #19
The VA has never taken care of veterans... stillcool Jan 2021 #29
Mixed results. My father got free glasses, hearing aids from the VA JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2021 #31
Traitors! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #7
Another reason to shrink the military in this country. Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #13
That's just like a scene in "Full Metal Jacket" (nt) HuskyOffset Jan 2021 #21
I know. Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #24
That was a scene in some movie ?? Full medal jacket??? packman Jan 2021 #26
No, my friend told me that story Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #27
Good. 20 years for insurrection should chill them out. nt SunSeeker Jan 2021 #15
+1 ffr Jan 2021 #23
As an Army kairos12 Jan 2021 #16
Their racist opinions should come in handy during their 20 year stay in prison FakeNoose Jan 2021 #17
You can't have a civil/just society with such people allowed in it. n/t MarcA Jan 2021 #18
Oh, how I love to see... SergeStorms Jan 2021 #20
Acting Defense Secretary will probably request that they get pardoned! n/t AntiFascist Jan 2021 #22
Damn, all those ex-vets need to be recalled packman Jan 2021 #25
The military should recall them, then court Marshall and incarcerate MyMission Jan 2021 #28
Rt TY! Cha Jan 2021 #30

lindysalsagal

(20,807 posts)
2. What are those 3 long blocks strapped to jessica's vest? Why is that freaking me out?
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 02:31 PM
Jan 2021

Have I watched too many scary movies??? Those look like ignition wires....not that i know anything about it....

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
9. Omg!
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 02:40 PM
Jan 2021

I have no idea what all that "gear" is, but suspected ammo.

Fking idiots!

I'll bet military, the REAL patriots there, cannot wait to haul them in & hold them to account for this!

EarnestPutz

(2,130 posts)
12. They do look scary. Not at all like the guy whose picture I saw yesterday whose "militia"....
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:19 PM
Jan 2021

.....dress-up costume included a "tactical" vest, purchased no doubt on the internet. It had the usual complement of small pockets, one of which contained an open package of peanut butter and cheddar crackers. You know, the bright orange ones from the convenience store. Because, you know, snacks.

csziggy

(34,141 posts)
4. They were both in the videos from Parler that ProPublica posted in their timeline
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 02:33 PM
Jan 2021

The video I saw with them was before the Capitol was invaded. I noted it because I was looking for the Oathkeepers who showed up later in the video Ronan Farrow posted of them climbing the stairs. They were the only two I saw in that type of gear.

I doubt I could find the particular video again among the thousand or so videos in that timeline or I'd try to post a link to it.

ETA - https://projects.propublica.org/parler-capitol-videos/

NHvet

(240 posts)
14. Agree...
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:01 PM
Jan 2021

Some think our defense money is best used on bullets and bombs instead of beds and meds. Unfortunately, the broken men and women are always last served even though they put their lives first for the country.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,391 posts)
19. What can the VA do? Hand out benefits and administer health care.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:48 PM
Jan 2021

Policing the beliefs of veterans is a bit outside their charter.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
29. The VA has never taken care of veterans...
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 06:21 PM
Jan 2021

they know damn well what happens when human beings are subjected to the totally unreal reality of a war zone. They've had so much experience, but you're right they 'hand-out benefits'. They fail miserably at 'administering health'. There's a reason why so many veterans going back to WWI become alcoholics and addicts. There's a reason why so many become violent. I started visiting the VA when I was 5. You should check it out.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,391 posts)
31. Mixed results. My father got free glasses, hearing aids from the VA
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 07:13 PM
Jan 2021

Brother-in-law got cataract surgery on both eyes, and a pair of artificial knees, plus all his meds, no charge.

Me? I've applied to VA a few times, they never responded. I guess I don't qualify for some reason.

Mr.Bill

(24,384 posts)
13. Another reason to shrink the military in this country.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:57 PM
Jan 2021

Last edited Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:56 PM - Edit history (1)

We're training terrorists.

I know a guy was was a Vietnam era Marine veteran. He told me that during basic training the DI named several notorious murderers, among them Lee Harvey Oswald. The DI was rather proud of the marksmanship training they had gotten in the Marines. Sick.

Mr.Bill

(24,384 posts)
24. I know.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:56 PM
Jan 2021

My friend told me that story before that movie came out.

I'm sure it was repeated many times by DIs over the years.

Mr.Bill

(24,384 posts)
27. No, my friend told me that story
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 05:04 PM
Jan 2021

before the movie came out. He was in boot camp in '72.

The actor in the movie, R. Lee Ermey, was an actual DI at one time. His first movie was The Boys In Company C. That's an excellent Vietnam era movie based on a true story. There are several real DIs in that movie.

kairos12

(12,908 posts)
16. As an Army
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:39 PM
Jan 2021

veteran these pukes make me hurl.

They are vile seditionists who deserve to go too Leavenworth.

SergeStorms

(19,208 posts)
20. Oh, how I love to see...
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:48 PM
Jan 2021

these traitors taken off our streets and placed behind bars where they belong. Law enforcement is really stepping up to the plate here. They deserve a round of applause for this. We'll let them know when they're wrong, but we'll damn sure give them credit when they're right.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
25. Damn, all those ex-vets need to be recalled
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:59 PM
Jan 2021

and face some sort of military justice- lose their benefits, status as retired vets, pensions lost-SOMETHING- They took an oath for Christ's sake.

MyMission

(1,856 posts)
28. The military should recall them, then court Marshall and incarcerate
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 05:24 PM
Jan 2021

And they should get deprogramming services while they do their time.

The military needs to start programs to de-radicalize both their active duty and military veterans.
But recall them into the US military and fry them first!

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