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Fri Jan 15, 2021, 10:53 AM

Curious question here for the lawyers here.

If rump self pardons, what time frame are we looking at? Would this go immediately go to the SC? Or start at lower court and work it's way up to the SC? THEN how long would the SC sit on it? (could this take 6 months to a year?

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Reply Curious question here for the lawyers here. (Original post)
bluestarone Jan 2021 OP
The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #1
bluestarone Jan 2021 #2
ScratchCat Jan 2021 #3
The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #4

Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Fri Jan 15, 2021, 10:58 AM

1. Nothing at all would happen unless/until he is prosecuted in the federal system.

The most likely scenario would be that following an investigation, evidence of Trump's crimes are presented to a grand jury, which issues an indictment. Trump would then go to court in an attempt to quash the indictment, and if he fails, he would appeal. If he succeeds, the government would appeal. The decision would would work its way through a circuit court of appeals and finally presented to the Supreme Court on a petition for a writ of certioriari, which the court would certainly grant, since a self-pardon has never happened before. The process could take many months.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 15, 2021, 11:03 AM

2. TY.

Kinda what i figured it would be. Needs to answered one way or another! (I DO NOT believe the SC. would allow self pardons)

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 15, 2021, 11:05 AM

3. Nobody believe the SCOTUS

would allow a self pardon. Not one legal expert agrees. All say its 9-0 decision against it. Katayal, Tribe, Ginsburg, etc.... even Barr told Trump it wouldn't stand.

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Response to ScratchCat (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 15, 2021, 11:19 AM

4. Yup. And a number of legal talking heads on tv have said

that a self-pardon would be bait for federal prosecutors.

Trump: "I'm pardoning myself."

Federal Prosecutor: "Hold my beer."

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