Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:55 PM
Collimator (1,486 posts)
Everyone is talking about pardons.
Will Trump try to pardon this person, can he pardon himself?
I am not a lawyer. If there is anyone here with real training and credentials please correct me. As far as I understand the concept, you cannot pardon someone unless they have been convicted. Right now, some of the terrorist/insurgents have been charged. No trials have been convened. Therefore, until the accused are given their verdicts in court, no one can possibly pardon them. Now, I know that political clout and other means have been used in the past to get charges dropped in all kinds of situations. But, as far as I understand, no one can issue a pardon for a crime that has not yet been proved. I wish people would consider this point in these discussions about Trump pardoning his family, his cronies and his supporters. Again, I am open to correction if I am wrong. But I would rather such correction come from someone with real information, not just people speculating. I understand the need to speculate. We're all worried, upset and scared. Speculation is a way of trying to prepare ourselves and feel more in control. It also makes us feel important and less like insignificant background players in this intense drama unfolding around us.
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jcgoldie | Jan 2021 | #4 |
Response to Collimator (Original post)
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:57 PM
C_U_L8R (43,574 posts)
1. He'll pardon no one
He'll use them as bargaining chips to reduce his punishments.
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Response to Collimator (Original post)
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:58 PM
Airotciv60 (29 posts)
2. Nixon
Nixon was pardoned and was never indicted or convicted. So yes, a non-convicted person can be pardoned.
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Response to Collimator (Original post)
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:58 PM
LeftInTX (21,776 posts)
3. They do not have to be convicted or even charged
Jimmy Carter pardoned all the draft dodgers. Andrew Johnson pardoned all of the confederates. Blanket pardons.
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Response to Collimator (Original post)
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:01 AM
jcgoldie (10,326 posts)
4. Nixon was pardoned
Prior to charges or conviction.
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