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How can anyone who heard Joe think tRump is a better choice? (Original Post) BigmanPigman Jan 2021 OP
My husband just said almost the exact same thing. No idea. I can't figure out why Vinca Jan 2021 #1
I almost cried listening to him dflprincess Jan 2021 #2
FDR was a hero to grandparents who lived through Oklahoma dust bowl and depression. txwhitedove Jan 2021 #7
He turned my maternal grandfather from a Republican to a Democrat dflprincess Jan 2021 #18
It's that thinking thing. Some folks have trouble with it. Raven123 Jan 2021 #3
Rump supporters want to hurt the 'right' people, even if many of their own are steamrollered as well Celerity Jan 2021 #4
Joe doesn't hate enough to please the rightwing racists Skittles Jan 2021 #5
It was so nice to hear someone talk about things that affect everyday Americans and not Fox kimbutgar Jan 2021 #6
Well, he did mention programs helping minority children Cirque du So-What Jan 2021 #8
For some it is hard to hear with their heads up their asses. CentralMass Jan 2021 #9
Dems need to invest in some decent microphones Cetacea Jan 2021 #10
They don't hear him torius Jan 2021 #11
Are you kidding? He didn't tell us which football players need to be fired! unblock Jan 2021 #12
I still hear them say he is Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #13
Trump mirrors their fetid, rotting souls BainsBane Jan 2021 #14
Not enough hate, not enough racism, not enough conspiracy BlueIdaho Jan 2021 #15
Trump appeals to nativists, racists, bigots, small-minded cliquish idiots badboy67 Jan 2021 #16
I always notice the hand gestures. I know that's pretty trivial. captain queeg Jan 2021 #17
The people notice when he makes the OK/white power sign. BigmanPigman Jan 2021 #21
They're the same idiots who think antifa was in the capital Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #19
Or the Both Sides garbage. betsuni Jan 2021 #20

Vinca

(50,318 posts)
1. My husband just said almost the exact same thing. No idea. I can't figure out why
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:47 PM
Jan 2021

anyone thinks Trump is an even adequate president, much less the best as they keep telling us.

dflprincess

(28,086 posts)
2. I almost cried listening to him
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:47 PM
Jan 2021

and wondered if this is how people felt when the heard FDR speak about his plans and vision for what we can be.

dflprincess

(28,086 posts)
18. He turned my maternal grandfather from a Republican to a Democrat
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 09:06 PM
Jan 2021

-- with the help of Hoover using the army to attack the Bonus Marchers.

And, as my mother and her sisters point out to more conservative members of the family. They had food on their table as kids because their dad had WPA jobs.

kimbutgar

(21,224 posts)
6. It was so nice to hear someone talk about things that affect everyday Americans and not Fox
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:52 PM
Jan 2021

Talking points. That $15 minimum wage will be big and since we will have those 50 votes in the senate it can happen.

We need to stream roll the turtle and flatten him out !

Cirque du So-What

(25,999 posts)
8. Well, he did mention programs helping minority children
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:54 PM
Jan 2021

I could hear millions of jaws tighten at the thought of ‘the undeserving’ getting something beneficial to them. This is what we’re up against.

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
10. Dems need to invest in some decent microphones
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:55 PM
Jan 2021

Sound is extremely important, especially when it comes to TV.

But that is for another day. Great to have an intelligent and experienced democrat at the helm again!

torius

(1,652 posts)
11. They don't hear him
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:56 PM
Jan 2021

They see little clips of him stumbling over a word on Fox News. That’s all they got. Besides laptop blahblahblah.

Mr.Bill

(24,334 posts)
13. I still hear them say he is
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:57 PM
Jan 2021

in full blown dementia and can't put a sentence together. And they will say that until the day they die.

BainsBane

(53,093 posts)
14. Trump mirrors their fetid, rotting souls
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:58 PM
Jan 2021

We have a deep sickness in American society, and I'm not talking about COVID.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
15. Not enough hate, not enough racism, not enough conspiracy
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:58 PM
Jan 2021

and not even a hint of insanity. I mean really... you call that a Presidential speech?

badboy67

(460 posts)
16. Trump appeals to nativists, racists, bigots, small-minded cliquish idiots
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 09:02 PM
Jan 2021

Flat Earthers, religious fanatics, the demented, etc.

captain queeg

(10,273 posts)
17. I always notice the hand gestures. I know that's pretty trivial.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 09:06 PM
Jan 2021

I don't use my hands much when I talk. My company sent me to a Dale Carnegie workshop years ago and they talked a lot about how it was important to be animated when speaking. I see some speakers and their gestures seem contrived somewhat. Both of these guys do some, but whoever coached trump to use that weird accordion double hand thing? Using two hands doesn't make them look any bigger donnie. Not an important thing, but it adds to the mystery of why some people love to hear him talk.

BigmanPigman

(51,642 posts)
21. The people notice when he makes the OK/white power sign.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 09:15 PM
Jan 2021

Was this ever a good thing? How long has he included his jazz jands and OK signs in the past before he became POTUS or are these new gestires since 2016?

Vivienne235729

(3,390 posts)
19. They're the same idiots who think antifa was in the capital
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 09:12 PM
Jan 2021

This level of cognitive dissonance is beyond my comprehension too. It is too pathological.

betsuni

(25,692 posts)
20. Or the Both Sides garbage.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 09:15 PM
Jan 2021

When impeachment was announced the ABC News person said "both sides" about five times. As in, both sides are worried about the soul of the country and both sides are arguing the same points but coming to different conclusions, and both sides blah blah blah.

And the garbage about Democrats not caring about anyone but the 1% -- I still can't believe the person who in an interview the other day said Democrats had the presidency and Congress for two years under the Obama administration but "did not deliver for the American people." As if the ACA was nothing and wasn't terribly difficult to pass because Democrats only had the senate votes for a little over four months during those two years, Republicans didn't win the House because Democrats "did not deliver for the Americans people" and Both Sides. Can't believe anyone who isn't a Republican would say such a stupid thing.

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