Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:23 PM

Trump considered resigning -- but refused because he doesn't trust Pence to pardon him: report

On Wednesday, ABC News reported that President Donald Trump seriously considered resigning ahead of the end of his term in discussion with White House aides. In the end, however, after asking questions about the process, he decided against it.

The reason? He doesn't trust that Vice President Mike Pence would pardon him, the way that Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon after he left.

Trump and Pence have been on the outs for several days now, with the president enraged that Pence did not buy a fringe legal theory that he had the power to prevent electoral votes from being counted for President-elect Joe Biden during congressional certification.

The president has also reportedly discussed pardoning himself, but legal advisers have warned him it may not be allowed and would increase his exposure to lawsuits.

https://www.rawstory.com/mike-pence-2649932880/

Does that mean that DJT still wants a pardon, and will self-pardon?

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Trump considered resigning -- but refused because he doesn't trust Pence to pardon him: report (Original post)	TheBlackAdder	Jan 13	OP
He bet on a Coup. And lost. Again.	C_U_L8R	Jan 13	#1
He would have to be pardoned by somebody who he trusts unconditionally	Xipe Totec	Jan 13	#2
Maybe his lover from NK would pardon him.	Doreen	Jan 13	#12
Sadly, he's busy having an anal parasite removed. nt	Xipe Totec	Jan 13	#18
Is donny the parasite?	Doreen	Jan 13	#19
Kim didn't say. He just smiled. nt	Xipe Totec	Jan 13	#20
The Jenius really thought this one out didn't he?	underpants	Jan 13	#3
Why would Trump need a pardon? Has he done something wrong?	Beartracks	Jan 13	#4
Yerkillinme!	lindysalsagal	Jan 13	#5
since Trump is a double-crossing slime bucket...	RussBLib	Jan 13	#6
Gosh, donny. Maybe "he doesn't like you so much since you	lindysalsagal	Jan 13	#7
Trying to have mob at the Capitol try to hang Pence drove Pence	NCjack	Jan 13	#10
How is self pardon on the table.	apnu	Jan 13	#8
Frustrates me the media never talks about this OLC memo	NQCowboy68	Jan 13	#9
He's going to barricade himself in a room in the White House, isn't he?	tanyev	Jan 13	#11
It made me laugh when I read the header ...	CatMor	Jan 13	#13
You mean " Hang Mike Pence" might not pardon him?	lame54	Jan 13	#14
Accomplice to an attempted murder? I like that idea.	LiberalFighter	Jan 13	#17
"Hmm. Maybe I shouldn't have called him a pussy..."	soothsayer	Jan 13	#15
One dimensional thinking.	Xolodno	Jan 13	#16
Just a big circular backstabbing fest	Blue Owl	Jan 13	#21
You have to admit...	Totally Tunsie	Jan 13	#22
Personally I would love to see him resign, and then pence forgets about their agreement.	captain queeg	Jan 13	#23
He will attempt to pardon himself.	Happy Hoosier	Jan 13	#24

Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:26 PM

C_U_L8R (39,976 posts)

1. He bet on a Coup. And lost. Again.

Such a freakin loser. Rot in prison.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:27 PM

Xipe Totec (43,027 posts)

2. He would have to be pardoned by somebody who he trusts unconditionally

Which would be...

Um....

Ah....

Er...

Nobody...

Except maybe Putin....

But he's indisposed, and not taking any calls....

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:48 PM

Doreen (10,799 posts)

12. Maybe his lover from NK would pardon him.

This is the DU member formerly known as Doreen.

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Response to Doreen (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:18 PM

Xipe Totec (43,027 posts)

18. Sadly, he's busy having an anal parasite removed. nt

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:19 PM

Doreen (10,799 posts)

19. Is donny the parasite?

This is the DU member formerly known as Doreen.

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Response to Doreen (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:20 PM

Xipe Totec (43,027 posts)

20. Kim didn't say. He just smiled. nt

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:27 PM

underpants (160,520 posts)

3. The Jenius really thought this one out didn't he?

Treat him like shit and call other people not him during a riot with his family in the middle of it.

Jesus Pence might actually get away from Trump without getting burned .....well okay just a bit.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:31 PM

Beartracks (10,773 posts)

4. Why would Trump need a pardon? Has he done something wrong?

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Response to Beartracks (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:33 PM

lindysalsagal (14,649 posts)

5. Yerkillinme!

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:34 PM

RussBLib (4,520 posts)

6. since Trump is a double-crossing slime bucket...

he thinks everyone is a double-crossing slime bucket

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:35 PM

lindysalsagal (14,649 posts)

7. Gosh, donny. Maybe "he doesn't like you so much since you

Completely screwed him for 4 years, and then demanded he attempt an illegal constitutional insurgency.

But what do I know?

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:42 PM

NCjack (8,224 posts)

10. Trying to have mob at the Capitol try to hang Pence drove Pence

over the edge. Trump can't trust a person he tried to kill.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:37 PM

apnu (8,378 posts)

8. How is self pardon on the table.

The Constitution does not say the POTUS can pardon himself. And the same DOJ policy paper that states the POTUS cannot be sued, it also states the POTUS cannot self-pardon.

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Response to apnu (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:42 PM

NQCowboy68 (31 posts)

9. Frustrates me the media never talks about this OLC memo

When the Mueller investigation was going on all we heard about was you can't indict a sitting president because of an OLC memo. For months we heard about the possibility of the self pardon but very rarely do they counter that with this self pardon OLC memo.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:42 PM

tanyev (33,769 posts)