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TheBlackAdder

(28,189 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:23 PM Jan 2021

Trump considered resigning -- but refused because he doesn't trust Pence to pardon him: report

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On Wednesday, ABC News reported that President Donald Trump seriously considered resigning ahead of the end of his term in discussion with White House aides. In the end, however, after asking questions about the process, he decided against it.

The reason? He doesn't trust that Vice President Mike Pence would pardon him, the way that Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon after he left.

Trump and Pence have been on the outs for several days now, with the president enraged that Pence did not buy a fringe legal theory that he had the power to prevent electoral votes from being counted for President-elect Joe Biden during congressional certification.

The president has also reportedly discussed pardoning himself, but legal advisers have warned him it may not be allowed and would increase his exposure to lawsuits.


https://www.rawstory.com/mike-pence-2649932880/



Does that mean that DJT still wants a pardon, and will self-pardon?

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Trump considered resigning -- but refused because he doesn't trust Pence to pardon him: report (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Jan 2021 OP
He bet on a Coup. And lost. Again. C_U_L8R Jan 2021 #1
He would have to be pardoned by somebody who he trusts unconditionally Xipe Totec Jan 2021 #2
Maybe his lover from NK would pardon him. Doreen Jan 2021 #12
Sadly, he's busy having an anal parasite removed. nt Xipe Totec Jan 2021 #18
Is donny the parasite? Doreen Jan 2021 #19
Kim didn't say. He just smiled. nt Xipe Totec Jan 2021 #20
The Jenius really thought this one out didn't he? underpants Jan 2021 #3
Why would Trump need a pardon? Has he done something wrong? Beartracks Jan 2021 #4
Yerkillinme! lindysalsagal Jan 2021 #5
since Trump is a double-crossing slime bucket... RussBLib Jan 2021 #6
Gosh, donny. Maybe "he doesn't like you so much since you lindysalsagal Jan 2021 #7
Trying to have mob at the Capitol try to hang Pence drove Pence NCjack Jan 2021 #10
How is self pardon on the table. apnu Jan 2021 #8
Frustrates me the media never talks about this OLC memo NQCowboy68 Jan 2021 #9
He's going to barricade himself in a room in the White House, isn't he? tanyev Jan 2021 #11
It made me laugh when I read the header ... CatMor Jan 2021 #13
You mean " Hang Mike Pence" might not pardon him? lame54 Jan 2021 #14
Accomplice to an attempted murder? I like that idea. LiberalFighter Jan 2021 #17
"Hmm. Maybe I shouldn't have called him a pussy..." soothsayer Jan 2021 #15
One dimensional thinking. Xolodno Jan 2021 #16
Just a big circular backstabbing fest Blue Owl Jan 2021 #21
You have to admit... Totally Tunsie Jan 2021 #22
Personally I would love to see him resign, and then pence forgets about their agreement. captain queeg Jan 2021 #23
He will attempt to pardon himself. Happy Hoosier Jan 2021 #24

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
2. He would have to be pardoned by somebody who he trusts unconditionally
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:27 PM
Jan 2021

Which would be...




Um....





Ah....






Er...





Nobody...






Except maybe Putin....






But he's indisposed, and not taking any calls....

underpants

(182,794 posts)
3. The Jenius really thought this one out didn't he?
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:27 PM
Jan 2021

Treat him like shit and call other people not him during a riot with his family in the middle of it.

Jesus Pence might actually get away from Trump without getting burned .....well okay just a bit.

lindysalsagal

(20,680 posts)
7. Gosh, donny. Maybe "he doesn't like you so much since you
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:35 PM
Jan 2021

Completely screwed him for 4 years, and then demanded he attempt an illegal constitutional insurgency.

But what do I know?

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
10. Trying to have mob at the Capitol try to hang Pence drove Pence
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:42 PM
Jan 2021

over the edge. Trump can't trust a person he tried to kill.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
8. How is self pardon on the table.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:37 PM
Jan 2021

The Constitution does not say the POTUS can pardon himself. And the same DOJ policy paper that states the POTUS cannot be sued, it also states the POTUS cannot self-pardon.

NQCowboy68

(67 posts)
9. Frustrates me the media never talks about this OLC memo
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:42 PM
Jan 2021

When the Mueller investigation was going on all we heard about was you can't indict a sitting president because of an OLC memo. For months we heard about the possibility of the self pardon but very rarely do they counter that with this self pardon OLC memo.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
16. One dimensional thinking.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 12:02 AM
Jan 2021

He never thinks beyond the first step and doesn't think about the repercussions if it fails.

captain queeg

(10,188 posts)
23. Personally I would love to see him resign, and then pence forgets about their agreement.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 12:39 AM
Jan 2021

I’ve stated this a couple times over the last couple months. Still think it’s possible.

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