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duforsure

(11,885 posts)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:03 AM Jan 2021

Got some legal questions,

Can trump give someone involved in this attempted coup a second pardon, and could people involved in this be charged using RICO? Do states have anything like that to use against them if they are pardoned soon? Could US or state attorney's and AG's(GOP) be charged if proof shows they've conspired and involved by obstructing charges against people in their states? Could pardons be overturned if shown trump was involved, and by giving those others involved pardons it is illegal?

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Got some legal questions, (Original Post) duforsure Jan 2021 OP
What is "a second pardon"? brooklynite Jan 2021 #1
Say Stone, if its determined he played a part in this ,or Manafort, or Flynn, duforsure Jan 2021 #2
Any crime specified in the original Pardon is pardoned... brooklynite Jan 2021 #3
That doesn't apply to future crimes , duforsure Jan 2021 #4
Yes brooklynite Jan 2021 #6
Let's see who he pardons. Then we'll know whodunnit soothsayer Jan 2021 #5
But if say Roger Stone or Flynn were shown to have been involved, duforsure Jan 2021 #7
Yes. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #8
Thanks, unfortunately thought that might be the case. duforsure Jan 2021 #10
He sure could soothsayer Jan 2021 #9

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
2. Say Stone, if its determined he played a part in this ,or Manafort, or Flynn,
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:12 AM
Jan 2021

Again any US attorney or any state AG that there is proof they are conspiring with those involved to obstruct their prosecution by refusal to produce charges against them.

brooklynite

(94,857 posts)
3. Any crime specified in the original Pardon is pardoned...
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:17 AM
Jan 2021

Any new crime can be pardoned by a new Pardon.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
4. That doesn't apply to future crimes ,
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:36 AM
Jan 2021

Does it? Only up to the time of the pardon. So say if the person got pardoned , 2 weeks later commits another crime, its not covered, and could trump pardon them again to cover that too, the new crime.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
7. But if say Roger Stone or Flynn were shown to have been involved,
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:46 AM
Jan 2021

Could he give them another pardon to then cover these newer crimes?

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
9. He sure could
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:55 AM
Jan 2021

But to do so before they’re charged would mean he’d have to list pretty specific things, and maybe the feds could find a charge outside of those. That’s my hope anyway.

And at the very least they’d have to sing.

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