Did you hear "zip tie guy's" BS defense?

[JohnnyRingo]

He was just being a good citizen.

I can imagine the first judge he sees will be glancing upward at the ceiling a few times while he hears this. The guy who swiped the Speaker's podium was probably just "returning" that too.

Federal prosecutors said Brock, who was arrested Sunday in Texas, was “wearing a green helmet, green tactical vest with patches, black and camo jacket, and beige pants holding a white flex cuff, which is used by law enforcement to restrain and/or detain subjects,” when he illegally stormed the Capitol.

Brock, who lives in the suburbs of Dallas, told The New Yorker that he traveled to the Capitol to demonstrate peacefully and found the zip ties on the ground.

“I wish I had not picked those up,” he told The New Yorker. “My thought process there was I would pick them up and give them to an officer when I see one... I didn’t do that because I had put them in my coat, and I honestly forgot about them.”

“I know it looks menacing,” he went on to say. “That was not my intent.”

More here:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/zip-tie-guy-eric-munchel-arrested-for-storming-the-us-capitol-feds-say?ref=home?ref=home

On edit:
Andy Borowitz probably had this story all typed up when the story broke. Now he has to start over.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

1. So he didn't walk by several officers on his way to the House chamber?

Seems unlikely.

Fuck around and find out.

[ProfessorGAC]

9. Later, He Said He Forgot

But, he didn't forget to bring tactical gear. A combat helmet & body armor?
He's a liar AND a coward.
Decorated veteran? And scared of of Antifa, an organization that wasn't there & doesn't exist.
A liar & a coward.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

33. Well, then, that makes sense. Easy enough to do when you're committing sedition.

[Bev54]

41. He picked them up, where off the floor of the stock room in the capital

It was reported that some of the terrorists went directly to the storeroom and took the ties, once again supporting the theory/truth that they were being assisted by insiders.

[servermsh]

2. I can't tell you the number of times I've picked up restraints when I walked into the Capitol. LOL.

[uponit7771]

6. +1

[Phoenix61]

3. If he bought them on a credit card they'll find

the purchase. I’m sure they’ll be all over all of his on-line stuff.

[JohnnyRingo]

38. There you go.

I hadn't thought of that, but he probably bought them online. oops!

[central scrutinizer]

4. My intent was not to get caught

Duh

[RealityCheque]

5. So this dog,

Stands in the presence of police officers being abused and killed, clearly not what his fellow insurgents were calling them, and now that he’s been apprehensive he looked for an “officer”?

[Bluethroughu]

7. He was on tape directing a group of young men

To push through a barricade with 4 cops, they did and he walked over the cop under it.

[dware]

8. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[cilla4progress]

10. Uh....

I may be dumb but I'm not stoopid.

[soothsayer]

11. "I was trying to tell everyone to show some restraint. Role modeling."

[Iggo]

24. Oh! It was a metaphor or some shit. Now I get it.

[lapfog_1]

12. Lying sack of shit

His intent was to arrest and possibly kill members of Congress.

I hope he is charged with terrorism and has at least 40 years to reflect on his decision "to pick them up"

[C_U_L8R]

13. Not my intent to look menacing?

Said the guy dressed head to toe in black paramilitary gear with a handgun at his side who just smashed his way into Congress with the terroristic intent to overthrow the United States government. No, not threatening in the least.

[AleksS]

14. When has that defense worked? Even for a 5 year old?

"Honest! I just picked up the _______ and was totally just taking it to give to (appropriate authority)."

The least he could do is try harder. Geez.

[JohnnyRingo]

44. He probably spoiled an article by Andy Borowitz.

Borowitz may have had this all typed up when the news broke. Had to start over with something even more absurd..

[Blue_true]

46. If he bought the zipcuff in person, there likely is video. If he bought them

online and the USPS, UPS or Fedex delivered them to an address associated with him, he is screwed also.

[yonder]

15. I found that bag of weed and was turning it in.

Said no one ever. NOT.

[MuseRider]

16. He wanted to help the clean up crew.

After all sir, we were leaving glass and papers and all kinds of broken things all over the place. I was just doing my part in helping the clean up.

These guys. Maybe his wife, if he has one, buys his crap or his boss, if he has one but I do not think the Feds are going to thank him and send him on his way. Or maybe they will, walking from D.C. to Texas is going to keep him busy for a while unless he can hitch a ride.

[Maraya1969]

17. Check his computer for internet purchases. I bet they find he bought them from

some military group.

Edit - I checked and you get them easy from this site and probably Home Depot types stores. Here they are $3.65 for 100

https://ziptie.com/14-in-75-lb-natural-100-standard-nylon-tie.html

https://cdna1.zoeysite.com/Adzpo594RQGDpLcjBynL1z/cache=expiry:31536000//auto_image/compress/

[TexasProgresive]

34. Those were double loop restraints not regular ties.

I know for a fact they aren't available at Lowes or Home Depot. They have no use in construction or wire bundling. I imagine that they are from law enforcement supply companies.
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[Denzil_DC]

40. They aren't standard zip ties, they're purpose-made restraints as used by law enforcement etc.

You can get them cheaply and easily from Amazon and eBay, no doubt other places online, so the purchase might well be trackable. Or he may have a specialist brick-and-mortar store he uses.

They could arguably have other uses, but few of them would be plausible when roaming the Capitol, except perhaps to tie two door handles together to prevent/slow down entry.

[Blue_true]

47. I believe that police restraints are different. For example, they are wider.

I doubt that they sell for as low as $3.65 per hundred.

[gldstwmn]

18. Tell it to the judge.

[doc03]

19. He planned on tidying up the Capitol wiring I bet nt

[zonemaster]

20. He'd better hope that security camera footage recorded him 'picking them up', not 'bringing them in'

Otherwise, just another convenient lie. Actually, probably best to just assume he's lying, in the meantime. Besides - he's got all sorts of other vectors of culpability, anyway. Just hang onto him for a while.

[Blue_true]

48. According to him, he picked them up and put them in his pocket and forgot about them.

Yet, he is clearly seen with them out in his hands once he got near congresspeople and staffers.

[Iggo]

21. "I was gonna help, but then I forgot! Why is everyone mad at me?"

That excuse?

[58Sunliner]

22. I'd laugh but he is a lying terrorist.

[Corgigal]

23. Any criminal

can think of a reason, for a criminal act in 24 hours. Did he try it out on family members first? Now, he can try it out with a jury.

[MrScorpio]

25. Bullshit

[lame54]

26. His bravery dissipates

[Alliepoo]

27. Yeah, sure bud-meant to give them

To a cop when he saw one. That’s pretty lame. Couldn’t he come up with something better than that?

[vlyons]

28. But it clearly was his intent to illegally break into the capitol

He wasn't wearing jeans and a plain jacket. He was wearing riot gear. AF needs to recall him, court marshall him, give him a dishonorable discharge, so he loses his pension that we, the tax payers, fund.

[malaise]

29. They are going to find out where he bought them

Take that to the bank

[Baked Potato]

30. Brock should lose his military pension. He is a traitor and terrorist

who’s intent was to terrorize and intimidate unarmed men and women and other staff to include very young Americans serving as Pages. Brock is a disgusting pice of crap and should get jailed.

Along with losing his pension, he should be banned from any Federal properties to include VA hospitals and offices. He was going to kidnap and restrain Americans for his filthy cause.

Fuck him!

[TexasProgresive]

31. Daily Beast is no good to me- wants me to register- not going to happen

This has a bit of information about Brock and Munchel.
https://www.startribune.com/capitol-police-were-overrun-left-naked-against-rioters/600009046/

[Midnightwalk]

32. Their explanations really make sense

They ought to keep giving interviews to explain why they are innocent. Any lawyer would tell you the best thing to do after being accused of a crime is to get your story out in full detail and publicly.

Disclaimer: I’m not a lawyer but I’ll stand by this advice in this case. Your mileage may vary. Certificate of sarcasm available upon request.

[dlk]

35. No one believes his lie

What, exactly, was his intent in storming the capitol in combat gear with an armed mob?

[d_r]

36. To be clear

This is the second guy, the air force vet from Texas with the helmet on. It is not the first guy in the photo with the coffee cap and blue line patch from Florida and Tennessee who lives with his mother.

Both guys are horrible traitors and thus guy is a piece of shit, but it is possible that this guy picked up the first Guy's zip ties.

[Progressive Jones]

37. Lying coward. nt

[Vivienne235729]

39. He has zero dignity and honor. Absolutely shameless to think anyone would believe this nonsense

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

42. "My thought process there was I would pick them up and give them to an officer when I see one."

[Takket]

45. Right after he helped an old woman cross the street

And got a cat out of a tree

Come on

Are these people for real?

Yeah that’s what everyone does during a coup attempt. Pick trash up off the ground

[Walleye]

43. The monkey looked the buzzard straight in the eye and s

Said: Your story is so sweet but it sounds just like a lie. So straighten up and fly right.