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highplainsdem

(49,044 posts)
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 03:28 AM Jan 2021

Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes, pushing for civil war, at Capitol with his men Jan. 6

Thread from journalist Nick Martin about Steward Rhodes' demands for martial law or civil war in open letters to Donald Trump:







Martin's thread mentions Rhodes's mid-December open letter to Trump, which Right Wing Watch has more info on:


https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/oath-keepers-stewart-rhodes-repeats-demand-that-trump-declare-martial-law-to-avoid-militia-led-civil-war/


Rhodes urges Trump to federalize all National Guard units, call up military veterans under the age of 65, and order “all able-bodied Americans between the ages of 17-45 who are still loyal to the Constitution to likewise report for duty, bearing their own arms” to keep the peace and “suppress the expected riots, terrorism, and armed insurrection by the radical left in the United States (who have been armed and equipped for months now by our foreign and domestic enemies).”

-snip-

WE ARE IN FOR A FIGHT, NO MATTER WHAT. LET’S GET IT DONE WITH YOU AS COMMANDER IN CHIEF

There is no way out but through. And we will NOT submit to a Chicom puppet regime. You must stand tall and use your constitutional powers to fight this war against enemies foreign and domestic while you are still President and Commander-in-Chief. If you fail to do so, we the people will have to fight a bloody revolution/civil war to throw off an illegitimate deep state/Chinese puppet regime.


Oath Keepers, launched by Rhodes in 2009 after the election of President Barack Obama, claims to be a nonpartisan group of current and former law enforcement and military service members committed to protecting Americans’ constitutional rights by refusing to abide by unconstitutional orders. In reality, Oath Keepers under Rhodes is a hard-right anti-government group. Rhodes has repeatedly called for violence and declared that the U.S. is at the point of civil war.

In an article in the November 2020 issue of The Atlantic, Mike Giglio reported that Oath Keepers “has recruited thousands of police, soldiers, and veterans.” His reporting drew in part on a database of 25,000 Oath Keepers members and supporters obtained by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Rhodes told Giglio that it would be better to wage civil war than to “slide into a nightmare” of a dictatorship. Giglio reported that at a recruiting meeting outside Nashville, Tennessee, in July, Rhodes called anti-fascist activists and protesters “insurrectionists” and declared, “Us old vets and younger ones are going to end up having to kill these young kids,” adding, “And they’re going to die believing they were fighting Nazis.” At an event in Virginia, a former marine declared, “We should have been shooting a long time ago instead of standing off to the side.”




In a tweet near the end of the thread, Nick Martin wonders if Rhodes was in contact with his men at the Capitol.


He gets a reply from someone pointing out a thread from journalist Ford Fischer with a photo of Rhodes talking to his men there:








I posted another OP about a thread of Fischer's with video that shows some of the Oath Keepers at the Capitol:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214877700









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Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes, pushing for civil war, at Capitol with his men Jan. 6 (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2021 OP
they need to be declared a terrorist organization on 1/21. bullimiami Jan 2021 #1
I agree. highplainsdem Jan 2021 #2
Man, these people are so fucked up. They live in Bizarro World: scarletwoman Jan 2021 #3
+1,000,000 highplainsdem Jan 2021 #10
Here is more information about the Oath Keepers Bev54 Jan 2021 #4
thanks for post. riversedge Jan 2021 #8
+1 dalton99a Jan 2021 #11
Homicidal ideation cagefreesoylentgreen Jan 2021 #5
Good point KT2000 Jan 2021 #6
HolyShit! Duppers Jan 2021 #7
Hey, Oaf Keepers.... GoCubsGo Jan 2021 #9
Oath Keepers are thick around here. Lots of stickers and decals on cars. Midnight Writer Jan 2021 #12

bullimiami

(13,105 posts)
1. they need to be declared a terrorist organization on 1/21.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 03:30 AM
Jan 2021

all of these organizations. like "oath keepers" (sic) are just fronts for right wing extremists.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
3. Man, these people are so fucked up. They live in Bizarro World:
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 03:42 AM
Jan 2021
“Us old vets and younger ones are going to end up having to kill these young kids,” adding, “And they’re going to die believing they were fighting Nazis."

Um, that's because you guys ARE Nazis!
5. Homicidal ideation
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 03:48 AM
Jan 2021

Elaborate homicidal fantasies should automatically qualify a person for a mandatory 12 to 72 psychiatric hold.

That’s done for most people who have suicidal fantasies, why not homicidal ones?

KT2000

(20,590 posts)
6. Good point
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 05:37 AM
Jan 2021

Have always wondered why the law requires the harm and/or homicide to occur before any action can be taken. Absurd.

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
9. Hey, Oaf Keepers....
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 08:59 AM
Jan 2021

You are already submitting to a "Chicom puppet." Hell, you are submitting to a whole goddamn family of them. Maybe Ivanka can get you a few Chinese trademarks while she's at it. And, if you ask nicely, maybe they'll tell you what Jared was doing over there in 2017.

Fucking idiots.

Midnight Writer

(21,816 posts)
12. Oath Keepers are thick around here. Lots of stickers and decals on cars.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 02:35 PM
Jan 2021

Three out of six houses on my block have Oath Keeper decals on their windows.

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