Armed or violent protesters to an Inauguration

[Pantagruel]

need to be dealt with the same way you'd respond to any hostile invader. There are times when even liberals need to be forceful, this would be one of them. Calls to have an Inauguration "in hiding" to safeguard participants are simply WRONG.

[in2herbs]

1. Until we are sure who in the police and military we can count on I don't think we should expose

our newly elected D officials or their Cabinet appointees to dangers that we can avoid. There's not enough time before the inauguration to determine that.

[Pantagruel]

3. Bullshit

[dware]

5. +100. nt

[PirateRo]

14. Agree

We will not modify our ceremony over their criminal activity.

[ananda]

7. My thought also.

Can we trust the police and military not to be infiltrated
with far-rightwing sympathizers?

[PirateRo]

17. Disagree

These people are simpletons, bullies and cowards. Appeasement is unacceptable.

[gldstwmn]

10. Exactly. Now is not the time

to make a show of anything. The continuation of the Republic must happen in the safest way possible. There are traitors among us.

[struggle4progress]

28. +

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

41. Agree. nt

[Thekaspervote]

2. Agree.. I'm not particularly worried. Yes, they are making a lot of noise, they'll wish they hadn't

If they go thru with their nonsense.

A rag tag bunch similar to the 1/6 crew going up against 6,500 Ntl guard, SS, local and state police from surrounding states. It’s a no brainer...oh I forgot they don’t use their brains

[HUAJIAO]

11. I am very worried.

[DSandra]

4. Everyone should remember what they brought on the 6th...

They are out for blood, they want to kill anyone in our government who opposes Trump...

[turtleblossom]

8. Kept saying those people are at war

We can't let these people become elected. They're wayyyy to dangerous.

[dware]

9. These traitors aren't going to get anywhere near the Inauguration,

This isn't Capitol Police guarding Biden and Harris, this is the Secret Service, along with about 10,000 heavily armed National Guard, along with who knows how many more LEA special units.

The Secret Service are not to be fucked with, they are perhaps the best trained LEA in the world and they aren't known for their sense of humor.

[DSandra]

21. Maybe it will take a bloodbath to discourage Trumpers from further attempting insurrection...

But they have a tendency to blame everyone else but themselves, they will likely further hate the American government and some will likely do terrorist acts.

[dware]

24. Quite possibly that's what it will take,

hopefully not, but I'm not holding my breath.

Here's my take on these traitors, just how many of these traitors will have the balls to go toe to toe with heavily armed, well equipped and well trained National Guard members, most of which have combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, along with all the specialized police units?

How many are going to actually fight when the shooting starts and their "comrades" start dropping like sacks of shit thrown from a 20 story bldg?

How many have any actual combat experience?

It's a whole lot different dressing up and playing soldier in the woods as compared to trained troops firing at you.

There will be a hard core of Pissolini supporters who might try to take on these forces, but they will end up as dead Pissolini supporters.
Also, if anyone is worried about bomb laden drones, there will more than likely be an EA-18 Growler in the air over DC jamming any specific signals, along with probably a couple of Predator drones armed with Hellfire missiles.
And, to top it off, there will be an expanded no fly zone and any aircraft attempting to penetrate the zone will quickly have a Sidewinder AAM up their ass.

[Eyeball_Kid]

15. This was not spontaneously pulled onto the Capitol grounds. This was planned long in advance.

And the zip ties weren't by chance just hanging around the Capitol Building. They were intentionally brought in to bag a few members of Congress, try them quickly and hang them. But perhaps a simple execution by bullet would also serve its intended purpose.

[PirateRo]

19. Nonsense

[bdamomma]

22. Oh boy

that is very chilling, this has got to end. White supremacist racists love their white supremacists so called faked pResident.

They will go down or will tRump throw them under the bus???

[bluestarone]

26. And 140 House rethuglicons support this shit?

FUCK THEM, FUCK THEM ALL.

[vxatonstardust]

31. Funny

These people are the ones who might be facing sedition charges, this might be them in the noose (or firing squad).

VS

"End Socialism, disband the fire departments!" - Unknown

[secondwind]

6. I say any precautions they take are fine with me. And that includes not having Nancy Pelosi at the

inauguration. I have to disagree with the poster on this.

[Thekaspervote]

13. Same... DC will be an armed fortress. They will be dealt with b4 hand. If they try anything they

Will wish they hadn’t.

Talking lots of smack right now!!..they will be up against massive Ntl guard, SS, state and local police. It won’t be a repeat of 1/6!

[PirateRo]

12. I agree completely

There can be no inauguration in the blind.

[Midnightwalk]

16. We're on the same side

But I disagree.

For sure, go after any armed or violent protestors. If I was in the area I would go masked and risk it after this week.

Absolutely don’t do it in hiding. Do it fully televised with pictures of the crowd cheering. Big screens so people can see the singers, speakers, etc. All of the spectacle. Biden and Harris don’t need to be together on a public stage.

If the need for a public display is great enough, give a speech in between to give distance in time. Pelosi cannot be there.

There are ways to better guarantee the transition.

We don’t have to agree on this.

[h2ebits]

18. I disagree with your statement

These people are known to be armed with plenty of hate and armed to the teeth with guns and now apparently bombs. Our military should be on high alert and prepared to shoot anyone who doesn't lay down their weapons during this insurrection.

But We the People need to protect our incoming President, VP, and other high ranking officials by holding the Inauguration in a secret location with live video showing and recording the event. We have the technology to do this today and SHOULD do this.

I don't consider it an act of some sort of macho bravery for them to take the risk of appearing publicly for the Inauguration Swearing in Ceremony.

[Squinch]

20. Also-- we're in the middle of a raging pandemic.

There's brave and then there's foolhardy.

[Pantagruel]

23. Wear a mask and social distance

that was already planned , but don't hide or cower in a bunker during our celebration of democracy or the bad guys win. The world is watching , show some courage.

[Squinch]

27. Staging nice ceremonies is a lovely thing to do, but I certainly wouldn't consider it showing

courage.

You know how I'd like to see them show courage? By prosecuting every damn one of them. And whatever they feel like doing to guarantee that they are alive to do that is fine by me.

I don't really give a shit about the ceremony.

[struggle4progress]

29. +

[Pantagruel]

33. World is watching

Democracy needs to be seen as open, fearless , proud and incredibly resolute.
A bunker ceremony won't cut it.

[Squinch]

34. A "bunker ceremony?" How silly. A privately attended ceremony with a video transmission

would be fine by me.

Yes, yes, I get it. You want them out in the open with those targets on their chests so they can make a point about their courage. Pffft.

[Pantagruel]

25. Coddling terrorists has its own dangers...

Scaramucci of all people, posted this December 20, 1924 article :

"Adolf Hitler, once the demi-god of the reactionary extremists, was released on parole from imprisonment at Fortress Landsberg, Bavaria, today and immediately left in an auto for Munich. He looked a much sadder and wiser man today than last Spring, when he with Ludendorff and other radical extremists, appeared before a Munich court charged with conspiracy to overthrow the government.

His behavior during imprisonment convinced authorities that, like his political organization, known as the Volkischer, was no longer to be feared. It is believed he will retire to private life in Austria, the country of his birth."

[vxatonstardust]

30. Threat To Inauguration

These trumpers are nuts if they think they can attack the white house or even a state capital. Any organized force of the military would tear these guys/gals apart.

VS

"Government is best which governs least" - Paine

[Squinch]

35. Ummm..... Did you sleep through Wednesday?

[vxatonstardust]

38. Nope

Wednesday was terrible of course and the people are f*n loonies.

But these guys/gals are untrained. They buy tactical gear off of Amazon and have non-military grade weapons. If they think they can take on a real squad of the armed forces they are nuts. If they try to actually 'attack' something the real armed forces would wipe them out.

I saw a bunch of Kentucky so called 'militia men' at the Kentucky capital, it was a bunch of fat guys in camo that couldn't run 30 feet. Put them up against trained Marines and let's see who wins.

In respect.

VS

[Squinch]

39. But we didn't put them up against trained marines, did we?

Law enforcement is so infiltrated that we didn't put them up against much of anyone for 4 hours.

Are you going to guarantee the same people who held back appropriate force aren't going to do the same again?Because no one can guarantee that until those agencies get different people overseeing them.

[vxatonstardust]

40. Agreed

I definitely understand what you mean.

[Pantagruel]

43. I GUARANTEE

the Inauguration will be handled much differently. Many bad actors have been identified and now many are on no-fly lists. I'm completely confident in Inauguration security.

[Squinch]

44. Well. If YOU, random internet guy, are completely confident, that clinches it.

[Pantagruel]

45. Correct!

[Quixote1818]

32. With all the Republicans, military leaders etc. there I am not worried

There will be PLENTY of force ready to act.

[moonscape]

36. I'm not worried about the inauguration, that's a defined

event with incredible planning and security. But I am worried about domestic terrorism around the country, state capitols, bombs in random places, etc., not just the 20th. Their mass-gathering communication has been disrupted, but smaller cells can happen all over the place.

[dustyscamp]

37. Maybe those are their real targets and these plans to attack Biden are just smokescreen?

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

42. Cops voluntarily let fascist domestic terrorists into the Capitol building,

while Congress, and the VP, were certifying Electoral College results. The fascist domestic terrorists were intent on kidnapping or murdering the Vice President and members of Congress. They were chanting "Hang Mike Pence!" Hang Mike Pence! in an orgy of unhinged zombie bloodlust.

The Capitol building should have been surrounded in heavily armed armed cops in body armor, three deep. The failure to adequately protect Congress was a feature, not a bug, and the feature was built in by fascists, or a fascist, loyal only to Trump. This was not a failure of intelligence. Most everyone here at DU knew that the Capitol should be heavily guarded, and we thought it would be, as a matter of simple common sense.

And we should trust the cops to protect Joe and Kamala, exactly why? Gosh, what could go wrong?

Law enforcement and the military must be purged of everyone who is loyal only to Trump, and disloyal to the Constitution and the United States, before I'll trust the cops and the military to protect anyone who isn't a loyal Trump supporter.

It only takes one deranged traitor. Better safe, than sorry.

[LisaL]

46. Do it on a ship in the middle of the ocean.

What are the Trumpers going to do, swim there?

[Pantagruel]

47. Joe gets it

"Biden say's he's "not afraid" to take oath of office outside despite security concerns

From CNN's Sarah Mucha and Paul LeBlanc

"No, I'm not afraid of taking the oath outside," he said, adding that it's "critically important' that there be a "real, serious focus" on holding those folks "who engaged in sedition and threatened people's lives" accountable.

Asked by the pooler if he fears impeachment could delay consideration of the stimulus bill, Biden said he’s talking to senators about whether they could still consider his Cabinet nominees and stimulus proposals, per the pooler.

He said he has not heard back from the parliamentarian yet.

Some background: Washington, DC, Mayor Muriel Bowser on Sunday sent a letter to President Trump asking for an emergency declaration in order to get additional funding for Biden's inauguration as safety concerns mount following the US Capitol breach.

Bowser's letter reflects the widespread safety concerns felt in the nation's capital and across the country in the wake of the violence at the US Capitol complex that left five dead, including an officer with the US Capitol Police.

Experts now warn that the calls for violence have only intensified ahead of Inauguration Day, when Biden will be sworn in as commander in chief."