Impeachment No. 2

[EndlessWire]

I think Trump should be impeached again.

This phone call that he made to Raffensperger was a crime. It might even be worse than the Ukraine call. We can't let him get away with it, despite the fact that it's over on Jan. 20th.

We have a better chance to convict him this time. Why? Didn't he recently denigrate Chief Justice Roberts? He's the guy who would once again preside over the trial in the Senate.

Trump threatened two Repubs with retaliation for not helping him. And, now we have a tape with multiple witnesses heard on it, who we can subpoena and question. They all heard it. They have probably listened to the tape again. They can't say he didn't say it without committing perjury.

If we take back the Senate, McConnell's influence will be diminished.

Trump is not planning to leave. He said on the tape that there would be trouble on Tuesday, and Wednesday. He has also said, allegedly, that he would continue on even after the 6th. He wants to entangle everything and mess us up.

What's our goal, then? We want Trump gone for good. If we were to impeach him and get a conviction, he wouldn't be able to run in 2024.

He has until January 20th to raise hell. He can do a lot to us in that period of time. He can sell Alaska to the Russians, start a war, etc. He needs to be gone.

We have a clearly superior position this time. Everyone heard it. There are no foreign nations involved. I don't know if a proceeding can continue past the 20th, but let's find out! The House can easily get the papers together. Try him and see if the Repubs will convict him just to get rid of him. Doesn't Raffensperger and the other guy have any friends in the Senate that might want to see a conviction?

Trump is dangerous. What if he decides to arrest Raffensperger? I know he is a Repub, but you have to admit, he did pretty good on Saturday. We should keep Trump busy and off his back. Just wait until Trump hears that Raffensperger did not agree to fix the count after the extended lawyer meeting.

Well, we won't do it. Once again, Trump will break the law and get away with it. Sure makes Schiff look like a genius, doesn't it?

At the very least, we should file the papers against Trump for a second impeachment. It would be a declaration to the world and future crooks that we will defend our Democracy.

[samnsara]

1. in 3 weeks?

[EndlessWire]

7. Yes.

You could certainly draw up Articles of Impeachment based on the phone call, in one week. You could have trial prep in progress.

[Blue Owl]

2. Yup

If we are still a nation of laws, then so be it...

[EndlessWire]

16. LOL! n/t

[imanamerican63]

3. Not happening!

I rather see him put in jail for voter fraud!

[EndlessWire]

15. You can't get him for that

unless you impeach. I dunno, I am not sure.

[jimlup]

4. He should be impeached and REMOVED

but it won't happen because our country is afraid of him. The reason is that the Republicans have facilitated this criminal.

[TomDaisy]

5. can a president be impeached after he leaves office

[EndlessWire]

11. I don't know.

The issue might be moot. Impeachment is to remove the guy. After he is convicted in the Senate, he can be prosecuted. It might be that you have to have filed the impeachment in order to prosecute him later.

It's never been decided before. The point of it is to keep him too busy to eff with us. He might even resign. We just can't have him return in 2024.

[StarfishSaver]

14. No

[EndlessWire]

17. How can you be back here so soon?

I gave you a homework assignment! Dang...

[TomSlick]

23. It is an unsettled question whether a former President can be impeached.

There is a legal argument that a former President can be impeached for the purpose of barring him from holding office in the future if the Senate convicts.

If the House impeaches and the Senate convicts and bars the former President from holding office in the future, SCOTUS would be obliged to answer the question.

Given that the Senate will (still) not convict, I question whether an impeachment is worth the effort. The better course would be a criminal investigation.

[onenote]

6. zero chance of convicting.

Not sure why you think we have a better chance this time. Name the members of the GOP that would vote to convict.

[EndlessWire]

8. Because

all of a sudden we have GOP members who are planning a violent coup. Some of them might not want to be involved in that.

They might realize that Trump is officially crazy. By now, the entire world has heard that phone call. They might want to save face.

[onenote]

10. And you think an impeachment proceeding would cause the proud boys to pack up and go home?

[EndlessWire]

12. You bet I do.

And, who calls themselves "Proud Boys?" What a stupid name.

[onenote]

19. I'm astonished that you think that the Proud Boys wouldn't be starting riots everywhere

if there was an attempt to impeach him.

[EndlessWire]

21. HE SHOULD BE IMPEACHED.

We can't allow the likes of "Proud Boys" to rule our country or act as Trump's de facto army. What happens to "Proud Boys" is up to "Proud Boys."

There are many Patriots available to fight back. It is a mistake to underestimate We The People. It would be a shame to ruin a life for the likes of Trump, but if that's what they want to do, they will be met.

So, no, the threat of a "riot" is not a determinate for punishing the Orange Turd. He can go to Hell. His best bet is to flee the country.

[Buckeyeblue]

9. This would give Republicans so many ways out...

1. They could be done with his conspiracy bullshit. 2. They could eliminate him being able to run in 2024. 3. They could set themselves up as heroes of our democracy.

None of this will happen. And honestly, i want them to have to own Trump for the next 4 years as more and more of his bullshit comes out

[EndlessWire]

13. Well

No, it won't happen. He's going to get away with it, and we will all forget why we were cross with him. Oh, well.

[Sogo]

18. Thank you for this thread.

I couldn't agree more.

The fact the Rs won't do the right thing shouldn't preclude us from doing so.

Impeach!

[canetoad]

20. K&R I agree with you

"We can't let him get away with it, despite the fact that it's over on Jan. 20th."

It's not only him; it's each and every corrupt, racist, criminal republican who thinks they can subvert democracy and decency with impunity. The lesson begins here.

[Rhiannon12866]

22. K&R, I also agree! Well said!