I really really hate anti-maskers!

[lark]

Because my barely employable son that lives with us, works at a fast food restaurant where the GM never wears her mask right and tolerates the staff not wearing masks at all, he got Covid. Worse, it was a week before she told Travis that the person he'd worked next to had been off the entire week with that crud. So, he'd already had it a week before he got tested and was positive and 5 days later I started having symptoms and then tested positive on Sunday.

Son is better now, but I'm not great. I have a constant headache and just feel so weak and dizzy. I have some coughing, but not that much. The worst part is Christmas! There are several people I always find presents for by shopping around, well that's been cut off now. Also our house is probably infected too so probably not a good idea to have my sister and her boyfriend over as planned. They are both high risk. Once I feel better I will sanitize this whole place, but who knows if that will occur in time? I hope so, I don't hurt nearly as badly as I did before, but my lungs still feel tight.

Well wishes or prayers would be appreciated. This virus is so weird, even though I'm not that sick, I am 68 years old and don't have great lungs so am still worried.

[Tribalceltic]

1. Call a Lawyer!

[lark]

4. Unfortunately, FL has no mask mandate so she wasn't flouting the state rules.

DS, along with drumpf, is trying to kill us all.

[lunasun]

14. Thanks I was wondering what state you were in because that could have been illegal but if FL

doesn’t have a mask mandate it probably doesn’t have rules about informing workers of exposure
Please take care
And I wonder how many other families of workers and customers were exposed and became ill

[BarackTheVote]

42. I thought that there was precedent

that knowingly exposing someone to a deadly pathogen qualified as assault. Can anyone comment on that?

[lark]

51. 2 other workers that I know of and who knows how many of their family members?

[McCamy Taylor]

18. Call OSHA

[CaptainTruth]

39. Bingo! I keep pointing that out to folks.

Knowingly exposing workers to life-threatening hazards in the workplace is squarely within OSHA's jurisdiction.

Here's a relevant article:

Get Right with OSHA on COVID-19 or Get Fined

"The current COVID-19 pandemic has presented new challenges to OSHA for reviewing how employers are protecting their employees. As of October 2, 2020, OSHA had imposed over $475,000 in fines against establishments that had violated OSHA’s regulations related to coronavirus."

[link:https://www.bradley.com/insights/publications/2020/10/get-right-with-osha-on-covid19-or-get-fined|]

[Maraya1969]

55. Yup; a jackass was walking around Whole Foods without a mask and I told the

management and they said that if he said he had a medical reason why he couldn't wear one they had to let him stay. And they couldn't ask what he issue was for medical reasons.

[Onlyserious]

21. I am more direct...

I ask the anti-masker where their kids go to school so I can be sure to travel at a high rate of speed through the school zone, after having more than a few beers. If I hit a kid, it will spur on "herd immunity" and the other kids will learn from it. I explain that careful driving is a myth--a hoax to restrict my freedom.

[wryter2000]

32. Welcome to DU

[NJCher]

23. even if the state doesn't have a mandate

if it's a national franchise, they most likely have a mask policy.
There would be your liability.

[Solly Mack]

2. Hope all goes well with your health and that of your family.

[lark]

5. Thank you so much!

[hlthe2b]

3. Ditto. Even more so, those who defend them (and sadly, I've seen some of that here). You have my

deepest empathy, sympathy, well wishes and concern. As a HCW, I've lost two colleagues already and I can barely contain my anger at those who think this all a "joke" or an "inconvenience" they simply don't need to tolerate.

[appleannie1]

33. My daughter, also a HCW, seethes at the the thoughtlessness of others.

She boils at their "don'tgiveashitatude".

[SheltieLover]

6. Precisely why Dems MUST NOT give in to repuke demands for no liability!

Healing vibes on the way to you! 💓💓💓

[lark]

7. I so agree on the liability thing.

It would be suicide to pass that,

[SheltieLover]

8. Absolutely!

Time for accountability is nearly at hand, thank gawd!

[CaptainTruth]

46. Agree, that's just Step 1 in chipping away at OSHA workplace safety requirements.

Republicans want to eliminate worker safety regulations because they're a burden on businesses, & we all know the GOP works for rich folks & corporations.

The point everyone seems to be missing is that OSHA's COVID enforcement is based on specific requirements of workplace safety laws. Those requirements apply to a LOT of other workplace hazards beyond COVID, & there are currently NO exceptions. If Republicans can make an exception for one hazard (COVID) then it opens those laws (employer requirements) up to legal challenges over the thousands of other hazards they apply to. That could seriously erode worker safety standards, resulting in more workplace illness, injury, & death, & we all know Republicans would love to do it as a gift to big business.

There's a lot more at stake here than most people realize.

From the link below:

"OSHA based their authority to enforce COVID-19 safety procedures primarily on two standards. The first was the General Duty Clause, Section 5(a)(1) of the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970, 29 U.S.C.A. § 654(a)(1).

The second standard related to virus protection are the personal protective equipment (PPE) regulations found in 29 C.F.R. § 1910 and 29 C.F.R. § 1926, which require using gloves, eye protection and respiratory protection when job hazards warrant it.

Specifically, if respirators are needed to protect workers from exposure to a dangerous condition, an employer must implement a comprehensive respiratory protection program that meets the requirements of the respiratory protection standard of 29 C.F.R. § 1910.134."


[link:https://www.bradley.com/insights/publications/2020/10/get-right-with-osha-on-covid19-or-get-fined|]

[SheltieLover]

47. Absofuckingloutely!

Anything repukes can do to screw working people, they will try.

Dems must not give in!

[LiberalLoner]

9. That's terrible. Hope you and your son have a quick and complete recovery.

[demmiblue]

10. Take care of yourself, and don't worry about the presents.

Your friends and family care about you and your health first and foremost. My family has canceled all festivities this year. Sigh.

I am fortunate to live in a mask mandate state. The only person I have seen without a mask in the grocery store lately was a man on supplemental oxygen. Not a good idea. There are a lot of older folks who just don't have the tech skills to figure out curbside pick-up/deliveries.

[MissMillie]

11. Moscow Mitch wants these people to be exempt from liability

NO WAY!!!!

[FrankTC]

29. People like Travis's employer are the ones Moscow Mitch wants to protect.

I can see where lawsuits might be tricky. Somebody could be infected at a friend's home and then sue their own employer because deep pockets. But it seems like this very ambiguity might be enough to protect employers from nuisance suits? Hard to prove the infection came from locus A and not from locus B. But there should be consequences for flagrant failure to maintain reasonable workplace health standards. Sue 'em.

[MissMillie]

35. Employers should not be allowed to

be silent about infections in the workplace. And the bit with masks not being worn properly is problematic as well.

[Hotler]

38. This should be an un-crossable line in the sand for our Democratic leaders.

There should no smidgen of give on this. This is where we tell them to go pound sand. If the repugs want try and reach for unity, they need to drop this.

[mountain grammy]

12. I hate them too. Total ignorance

Hope you and your family are all well soon. This never had to be this bad.

[niyad]

13. Vibes for healing and strength and energy for you and your family. Glad your symptoms do not

seem to be severe. Please continue to take care of yourself, be kind and gentle and patient with yourself.

You may not be able to sue this bio terrorist, but perhaps a warning review on Yelp, and whatever else is out there?

[Wicked Blue]

15. Hugs and sympathy

Hope you feel better quickly!

Just wondering - could the dizziness and headache be from congestion? Might want to ask your doctor.

[MLAA]

16. Sending 💕💕💖💖💕💕💖

[Tech]

17. Definite well wishes to you and your family.

[mnhtnbb]

19. Sorry to hear about your illness. If you don't have a pulse oximeter

so you can monitor your oxygen saturation at home, get one today. Not expensive and really important to know oxygen levels so you can get yourself to the hospital asap if it falls below normal level. Many people with low levels have no idea how sick they are. Call your doc to find out what level is ok for you and your lungs.

And I hope you feel better soon!

[birdographer]

28. TY mnhtnbb

Like the OP, who I send good wishes and hope for a full recovery to, I have lung issues. I read your post and had a pulse oximeter ordered within one minute. That device was totally off my radar, never occurred to me to get one. Thank you so much for mentioning it.

[mnhtnbb]

56. In these days of COVID-19, having a pulse oximeter at home is as necessary as a thermometer

given how the virus can do damage to lungs and thus, as a result, to other organs/tissues in the body due to low oxygen levels.

You're welcome. Stay well!

[kairos12]

20. Peace and strength to you lark.

[onecent]

22. I know what you mean. I am 75 and I don't like it... first that's what everyone

said... WATCH THE OLD PEOPLE --then it's still running amuk for children, people that go to school. I am
so sick of this stuff. What a way to go out....with this Covus...when I had a completly good life.

I will pray for you and your son...

[lark]

60. My son is feeling so guilty, even though there was nothing else he could do.

We knew we were taking a risk when we let him move in in Oct. but otherwise he was on the streets because of an abusive living arrangement no credit and little money. He wears a mask 100% at work and when outside of the house but it wasn't enough when he worked 8 hours with a witch who refused to put her mask on and a boss who couldn't be bothered to address it because they were too busy.

I can't get really sick because it would destroy him.

[lark]

67. 2020 the year from hell!

Well, I just got some good news, my oxygen is great so slight chest tightness not a problem now.

[sarge43]

25. Be well Lark

Good thoughts and vibes on the way

[CaptYossarian]

26. This is a terrible situation.

Please get well again. We're almost there. Your friends and family will enjoy Valentine's presents with you living long enough to give them.

Best to your son too.

[coti]

27. Have you gotten tested? nt

[lark]

34. I tested positive on Sunday.

Symptoms started Friday night.

[wryter2000]

30. Prayers coming your way

I'm pretty sure God will know who lark is.

[Heartstrings]

31. Healing vibes sent........

[NoRoadUntravelled]

36. Sending healing thoughts for wellness and peace.

While having to forgo Christmas plans is disappointing, doing all that's needed to care for yourself now will go a long way to guarantee that next Christmas will be the best ever. Your body needs all the energy it can manifest to bring itself back to good health. Stress is a real energy drain, especially regarding events that we have so little control of. Take good care of you.

[people]

37. Anti-maskers - YUCK!!!

Sleeping on your stomach is supposed to be better for your lungs with this. Take care, feel better and don't worry about presents. Your healthy recovery is a present for you, your family and your friends.

[MontanaMama]

40. This makes me so angry!

I’m so sorry your going through this and I hope you’re on the mend soon. Stupid, thoughtless assholes are responsible for so many sick and dead people. I just don’t understand it.

[Warpy]

41. That headache is a real stinker

You couldn't see it, but there was an axe sticking out of the right side of my head. Nothing really touched it, either.

You're describing what I had in March. The cough lasted about a month after the fever finally broke for good. The taste and smell were sporadic until very recently. The disease is a liar--you'll feel OK for a while in the second week, then the temperature will come back, then it will break and you'll be drenched, and the cycle will repeat.

If it starts to get painful to breathe, hospital. If your nail beds or lips start to get dusky, hospital.

This was weird because of what I didn't have--no real upper respiratory symptoms like sneezing or sore throat (until it got raw from coughing), no runny nose. no body aches except accessory muscles from coughing. It was just headache, c0ugh, tight chest,. so so fever, and loss of smell and taste.

Oh, and I'm older than you are.

[Mickju]

43. I'm sorry you got sick and hope you recover quickly.

[Jay25]

44. Sorry to hear, glad your son's doing better

Try to rest and not stress (I know that sounds dumb and impossible) but it does help the immune system. Sending thoughts, prayers, positive energy and love your way. Hope you feel better soon and no one else gets sick.

[lark]

50. Thank you Jay25 and welcome to DU.

[Atticus]

45. Here's hoping Santa brings health to you and yours. Hang in there, Lark! nt

[Blue Owl]

48. I know...

How are we going to make it thru this pandemic with these morons???

[lark]

49. Lots of people won't make it, that's the really bad part.

I guess the worst part is that repugs freaking don't care if we live or die and would probably prefer us dead so they can steal our SS $$.

[blogslut]

52. You heal up, lark!

Take care of yourself. The best christmas gift we have this year is each other.

[appalachiablue]

53. Sorry this happened to you & your son. Take care, all the best.

[OneBlueSky]

54. anti-maskers . . . otherwise known as "mask debaters" . . .

remember this? . . . so funny it hurts . . .

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14309033

[SimplyHadEnough]

57. Hope this help's

Critical Care COVID-19 Management Protocol
(updated 9-28-2020)
Prophylaxis
While there is very limited data (and none specific for COVID-19), the following “cocktail” may
have a role in the prevention/mitigation of COVID-19 disease.
■ Vitamin C 500 mg BID and Quercetin 250 mg daily
■ Zinc 75-100 mg/day
■ Melatonin (slow release): Begin with 0.3mg and increase as tolerated to 2 mg
at night
■ Vitamin D3 1000-3000 u/day
■ Famotidine 20-40mg/day
Mildly Symptomatic patients (at home):
■ Vitamin C 500mg BID and Quercetin 250-500 mg BID
■ Zinc 75-100 mg/day
■ Melatonin 6-12 mg at night (the optimal dose is unknown)
■ Vitamin D3 2000 - 4000 u/day
■ ASA aspirin 81-325 mg/day (unless contraindicated)
■ Famotidine 40mg BID (reduce dose with renal impairment)
In symptomatic patients, monitoring with home pulse oximetry is recommended.
Ambulatory desaturation below 94% should prompt hospital admission
You can order off of Amazon for the things you don't have at home. The most important thing to have is a Pulse Oximeter and thermometer.

[lark]

73. Thanks for this.

I had to buy thermometer, pulse oximeter, Vit C, Zinc, Vit D, and luckily my drugstore had no contact pick up so was able to do this safely. My nurse friend told me to eat semi-solid food, drink at least 8 glasses of water & walk 5 min. every 2 hours while awake plus a lot of what you said, and I am some better today after all of this. Today I am going to try to walk for more than 5 min. at a time, but will see how I do. It's irritating, the rest of the family had this at some time and got over it much sooner, but being the oldest, it's hanging on for me.

I do have a question about the oxygen rate. Are you saying lower than 94 while active is bad? Mine got down as low as 92, but that was after walking, and it went back up to 95 when I sat down. That was a few days ago and I am better now, resting oxygen didn't get below 95 yesterday.

[Nitram]

58. Anti-maskers are the lowest of the low. I couldn't care less if they risk their own lives, but when

they put the life of other people at risk because of their arrogance, they are pure scum.

[beaglelover]

59. Hope you get better soon.

I would hope that everyone only spends Christmas day this year with those in their own household. It's way too risky to associate with others at this time.

[AmyStrange]

61. Didn't your son wear a mask?

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I'm praying for you, but how did your son catch it? Wasn't he wearing a mask?
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[lark]

62. Yes, he worse a mask the entire time at work.

There was a woman working in the back with him and she refused to put on a mask. He even brought her one of his extras but she wouldn't put it on. When he told his boss, she said she was too busy to address it, all the while her mask was below her nose. The woman he worked alongside called in the next day with a positive diagnosis, but the boss didn't tell anyone until after a week later. That's how this spread.

I'm going to try to contact OSHA about this today. I know our state has no mandate, but I'll try reporting it anyway.

[AmyStrange]

63. Good plan, but...

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how did he catch it if he was wearing a mask?
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[lark]

64. The other person didn't have on a mask for an entire shift working near him.

if you are around an uncovered infectious person, and you are wearing a mask and they aren't, you still have a 40% chance of catching it. 2 people at his work who wore masks got this from that asshole airhead.

[AmyStrange]

65. I didn't know that, and...

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thanks for the info.

Obviously, wearing a mask isn't as effective as I thought it was, especially if no one else wears one.

Call OSHA and RAISE HELL!!!
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[electric_blue68]

69. )))healing vibes(((

Hoping you and your son have a full recovery.


(I hate anti-maskers, too, since they started this
SELFISH, and dangerous behavior.)

[lark]

70. Thank you.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

71. I think most of us are anxious about catching the virus

because of thoughtless, clueless anti-masker covidiots who are completely lacking in empathy.

Anti-masker covidiots are like little terrorist vampire losers, who have no lives, and the only sense of personal power they've ever had comes from feeding on the fear and distress they know that they cause in others by not wearing masks in public places.

It would not surprise me at all if they, at some point, discovered that they were infected, and then felt joy and pleasure in knowing that they had infected and harmed innocent people who caught the virus from them.

So sorry about what happened to you. Hugs and positive energy to you and yours, get well soon.

[lark]

72. Thank you.