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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am teaching world religions to my PBS (ED, AUSTISTIC, ODD, ADHD) Judaism tomorrow. Anyone want
to share personal stories I could share?
Hekate
(90,901 posts)Enjoy!
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)but I always like to make things a bit more personal
so if I could say my friend celebrates................................................... because...............................
sakabatou
(42,186 posts)There aren't any stories of mine which are interesting, besides the time I went to Israel.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)celebrations?
favorite food?
sakabatou
(42,186 posts)Each year we get an ice-cream pie due to me surviving a deadly illness. We don't have that many traditions outside of Judaism.
Cirque du So-What
(26,004 posts)It was surprising to hear him admit that the story of Mary, immaculate conception, virgin birth, et al, originated from Babylonian texts.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)remember these kids are not high volume info kids. They can only understand basics. That is why I like to introduce real family things into the mix.
I had a lady that was Hindu talking about reincarnation and that her whole family is vegetarian. One of my kids was like "so you don't eat your grandma"
kind of crass-they are-but on target
Bluesaph
(719 posts)I was brought up Roman Catholic. Mom was a fanatic and dad was just in a charismatic group. Lots of fights about religion in my home. I went to catholic school too. Was taught by nuns mostly. This situation made me become apathetic toward Catholicism. Pair that with marrying in the Catholic Church to an abusive, drug addict, I was a wreck. I had three little girls. I was so lonely. My family wasnt supportive. And low and behold ... enter the Jehovahs Witnesses and their proselytizing.
It was almost as if I was in a haze. I went from being lonely to having a worldwide brotherhood of people who love bombed me. They offered the support and family life I was desperate for. They spoke against the Catholic Church and I could totally relate to all they were saying. They gave me an immediate hope that the end of this system of things (the world) was right around the corner and I would live free and happy in a paradise earth forever with my three little girls!
After about a year of studying with the Jehovahs Witnesses, I began to be pressured to get baptized. I didnt feel ready. But I sensed that it was part of the deal. If I didnt get baptized I would become unworthy association and those people from the congregation whom I had begun to rely on to fill the empty hole that was my life, would fade away. Baptism to the organization is a contract. It means you renounce all other worldly things and people. It meant I would renounce my family too. And I had already left them behind anyway. I no longer saw them for worldly holidays such as Christmas. No participation in birthdays. And the only excuse to spend time with them was to find opportunities to proselityze.
And that I did! I recruited my baby sister whom I was the closest to since the day she came home from the hospital. She dove in immediately. While a JW I found out my abusive husband was also a cheater, got divorced and remarried to a JW man.
Fast forward a couple of years and the fog started to clear. I began to see the imperfections in the congregation. The same imperfections I had seen in the Roman Catholic Church. Some of the people began to be people I didnt necessarily want to spend forever with. And the thought of Jehovah killing my entire family at Armageddon didnt sound like a good thing anymore. But how do I leave? Im baptized!! If I leave I will be shunned by everyone I had established friendships with. It meant my own baby sister would be left behind and it meant she would shun me, not even looking at me or saying hello!!!
I didnt have a relationship with my baby sister for 20 years after I left The Truth. I was not even invited to her wedding. I lost all my friends. But I did meet my husband of 24 years there and he left with me, my three daughters and our little son. We had to move away because the elders continuously came knocking on our door trying to pressure us to come back.
Currently, I am reestablishing a relationship with my little sister. The catch is I have to allow her to proselytize to me and I have to attend meetings of her college gregarios once in a while. Basically, I have to give her conscience a reason to allow her to speak to me. I walk a fine line.
Living in a cult is giving up freedom of thought and belief. Leaving a cult means you have to keep a foot in for the rest of your life if you care about a single person stuck inside.
Needless to say, I do not recommend it.
keithbvadu2
(36,970 posts)Yes. When people convert to/from some lifestyle or habit, they renounce the old way in extremely strong ways to self-affirm that they did the right thing. This can be to benefit the person or the new organization.
This can be religion, politics, cigarettes, alcohol, drugs, or whatever.
Silver Gaia
(4,548 posts)My degrees are in world religion and mythology, but I also used to work with kids like these, so maybe I can come up with something useful. No promises... lots to do today, but will try to think on this while I work.
PufPuf23
(8,843 posts)Gefilte fish at the Seder?
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)was looking more for stories of holiday celebrations and things.
PufPuf23
(8,843 posts)they came to be then?