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rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 06:51 PM Dec 2020

I had an encounter with 2 anti mask customers

at my job today. The company i work for has told us if another customer complains about someone not wearing a mask, we as managers are to offer the non mask person a mask. If they refuse, we have to let it go. They don't want us possibly getting into a violent situation.

So I offer this guy a mask and he looks at me stupidly and says "Nope!" His wife just shakes her head at me as I try to offer her one. I was livid at how they reacted, but I just walked away.

My District Manager comes in about 10 minutes later and asked me how I was doing. I told him I was fed up with these non mask wearing people and told him that he can fire me if he wants, but that I had just texted my store team and told them they are not obligated to treat these idiots nicely. Yes, we have to let them shop, but just scan their groceries quickly and get them out of here. If they ask you where something is, just point in its general direction, etc.

He wasn't very pleased that I had done that, but too bad. I understand they don't want us getting into violent situations but damn i wish they would hire armed security to deal with these idiots. But they won't because businesses are looking out for their bottom line. That's the problem with government leaving it up to businesses to enforce these mandates.

This is in Texas by the way.

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I had an encounter with 2 anti mask customers (Original Post) rownesheck Dec 2020 OP
I've heard about this sort of thing in Texas, from a friend who lives there. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2020 #1
just cough loudly kiri Dec 2020 #25
Good for him! That's a smart move. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2020 #27
works for me also. If I have to deal with anti maskers I just cough loudly behind my mask mitch96 Dec 2020 #33
That is a TERRIFIC idea! calimary Dec 2020 #35
I like that idea Bayard Dec 2020 #49
Me too. My cough can sound like death itself. JohnnyRingo Dec 2020 #57
Sounds good, but he's probably inhaling their air Lars39 Dec 2020 #55
Our Governor here in SC SCantiGOP Dec 2020 #2
He could contract the virus and die first. niyad Dec 2020 #38
Funny you say that SCantiGOP Dec 2020 #40
Sadly true. I have several friends from there, they say the culture is insane. niyad Dec 2020 #42
It's like the country as a whole SCantiGOP Dec 2020 #43
If they care about their bottom line, they need to RESPECT the customers who are trying to do the BComplex Dec 2020 #3
Oh they are required here in Texas trc Dec 2020 #32
Wear a face shield and a mask Freddie Dec 2020 #4
"No shirt, no shoes, no service" -- why can't you deny service? intrepidity Dec 2020 #5
I agree, I don't understand this either. OnDoutside Dec 2020 #12
We have a state-wide mask mandate Bayard Dec 2020 #6
Alabama has a state-wide mandate also, but about 10% are ignoring it. And there are no consequences. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2020 #15
I had two similar incidents in a Ace Hardware and now I just won't buy anything from them again. llmart Dec 2020 #17
I hope you called them and told them why you won't be shopping there anymore. Squinch Dec 2020 #51
I emailed the store owner. llmart Dec 2020 #61
Well done! Squinch Dec 2020 #62
In NJ, we have a statewide mask mandate and I haven't seen anyone without as Five-O gets called. TheBlackAdder Dec 2020 #48
I received a complement on my full face shield automotive gas mask today. roamer65 Dec 2020 #7
TRYING really hard to keep my mouth shut vapor2 Dec 2020 #8
Sorry you have to work around unsafe people marlakay Dec 2020 #9
I live in Florida OriginalGeek Dec 2020 #10
They shouldn't be allowed in the store Meowmee Dec 2020 #11
I don't suppose birdographer Dec 2020 #13
I feel so badly for your situation and those others who are in similar ones... Ferrets are Cool Dec 2020 #14
They should have to self checkout alphafemale Dec 2020 #16
If a bar can afford to hire an off-duty cop in uniform to be a bouncer, Mr.Bill Dec 2020 #18
And with bars closed in so many places, bouncers are unemployed. catrose Dec 2020 #23
Good for speaking the truth. These assholes are endangering everyone's lives, in every state. Evolve Dammit Dec 2020 #19
See any parallels? Pantagruel Dec 2020 #20
I'm so sorry you have to endure this. NellieStarbuck Dec 2020 #21
"fun" fact Pantagruel Dec 2020 #22
You deserve more support than that wryter2000 Dec 2020 #24
They are assholes Ahpook Dec 2020 #26
Governments need to handle the mask situation like the seatbelt law. 70sEraVet Dec 2020 #28
Not happening here... LPBBEAR Dec 2020 #29
I hear you. Stay safe. Joinfortmill Dec 2020 #30
Businesses should follow Costco KT2000 Dec 2020 #31
I think you should be getting Hazard pay Tribetime Dec 2020 #34
I stop shopping Smackdown2019 Dec 2020 #36
It's bullshit that the anti-maskers will get violent. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2020 #37
Have you missed all the stories of people getting stabbed, shot, beaten, ?kILLED???? For niyad Dec 2020 #41
Apparently I have. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2020 #45
Please google those incidents before you continue with your assumption. niyad Dec 2020 #47
Flint Michigan earlier this year MichMan Dec 2020 #52
Yeah, some stupid woman was told to wear a mask at a Dollar Store. Refused. cwydro Dec 2020 #53
It was in Flint. MichMan Dec 2020 #60
Truth about Texas PurgedVoter Dec 2020 #39
I turn my back and essentially hide from customers MyMission Dec 2020 #44
We FINALLY are allowed to deny them entry... lame54 Dec 2020 #46
Zero tolerance in my workplace, a corporate-owned convenience store pecosbob Dec 2020 #50
You don't "have to let them shop." Ms. Toad Dec 2020 #54
As they're traveling around the store broadcast their location and warn Iwasthere Dec 2020 #56
Last Id heard quakerboy Dec 2020 #58
I don't think I'd stop them. rownesheck Dec 2020 #59

CaliforniaPeggy

(150,263 posts)
1. I've heard about this sort of thing in Texas, from a friend who lives there.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 06:57 PM
Dec 2020

And the infection rates are climbing catastrophically!

If too many people get sick because of their idiotic responses to mask-wearing, then the stores won't have customers to buy stuff!

So much for their precious bottom line.

It just pisses me off.

I'd say keep doing what you're doing!

kiri

(809 posts)
25. just cough loudly
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 08:59 PM
Dec 2020

My neighbor has a teenage son who works at a Market Basket supermarket.
In similar encounters with antimaskers, he pulls down his mask and coughs in their direction. So far the bad ones have turned and fled.

mitch96

(14,012 posts)
33. works for me also. If I have to deal with anti maskers I just cough loudly behind my mask
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:29 PM
Dec 2020

wipe my brow and ask if it's hot in here or is it me...HA!! I get mixed reactions but I get my point across.
m

calimary

(81,973 posts)
35. That is a TERRIFIC idea!
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:47 PM
Dec 2020

Just one little - um - gesture - an action that speaks WAY louder than words! Or in this case, a nice big open unmasked cough!

Might make 'em think.

Bayard

(22,575 posts)
49. I like that idea
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 01:03 AM
Dec 2020

I cough all the time anyway in connection to my asthma, especially when its cold out. It can sound pretty terrible, especially if I also have a respiratory infection. Instead of hitting the inhaler before I walk in somewhere, I should just let 'er rip.

I bet I could either clear a store, or be arrested!

JohnnyRingo

(18,816 posts)
57. Me too. My cough can sound like death itself.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 06:28 PM
Dec 2020

I did freak one person out who didn't have a mask on. I pulled my down and let it go from the depths without covering my mouth. He moved away quickly enough to be comical.

I regret that I didn't say something like "I should probably wear a mask", or "Wanna borrow my mask?". I'll be ready next time.

Lars39

(26,136 posts)
55. Sounds good, but he's probably inhaling their air
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 02:37 PM
Dec 2020

before he coughs. He’s putting himself at risk.

SCantiGOP

(13,885 posts)
2. Our Governor here in SC
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 06:58 PM
Dec 2020

makes impassioned pleas, telling us that the virus has never been more deadly or widespread, and thousands of our friends, family and fellow citizens will die if we don't aggressively follow all of the guidelines and then................someone will ask if he is considering a statewide mask mandate and he turns into his usual trump/tea party robot and says that will not be considered since it would basically destroy American.
He is a dangerous moron, but will be re-elected in two years to continue being a dangerous moron.

SCantiGOP

(13,885 posts)
40. Funny you say that
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:57 PM
Dec 2020

I had a professor in Political Science years ago who made the snarky - but true - statement that the only way to bring about progressive change in South Carolina was to have a lot of funerals.

SCantiGOP

(13,885 posts)
43. It's like the country as a whole
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 10:20 PM
Dec 2020

The three major cities are pretty liberal and vote Democratic. The suburban areas are tolerant and slowly becoming more competitive for the Democrats.
But the rural areas are still as racist and backward as you would expect to find in the pre-WW2 South. And because of gerrymandering, that gives us a very Republican legislature and a 6-1 split in our Congressional delegation.

BComplex

(8,237 posts)
3. If they care about their bottom line, they need to RESPECT the customers who are trying to do the
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 07:05 PM
Dec 2020

right thing, and they need to PROTECT the customers who are doing the right thing. A mask on one person vs. a non-masked person, only has a small percentage of effectiveness as it would if BOTH are wearing masks.

I will no longer shop where masks are not a requirement. Haven't been shopping in those stores since June. Won't start now.

trc

(823 posts)
32. Oh they are required here in Texas
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:15 PM
Dec 2020

But their is no enforcement policy put in place that supports businesses telling folks they cannot enter the business unless masked. See it here all the time. Mandate without teeth.

Bayard

(22,575 posts)
6. We have a state-wide mask mandate
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 07:16 PM
Dec 2020

Thank you, Gov. Beshear! Every establishment that is open is required to post the sign on its door, but let people just trip on in without them. I glare at those people, and make a wide berth around them. I rarely go anywhere.

But I do go off on store personnel that either don't wear a mask, or don't wear it properly. I had to go to Ace Hardware yesterday. There were two guys working. One had his mask down under his nose, the other one just had his across his chin. The response was--I can't breathe in one. The couple of customers there besides me were not wearing masks.

I'm tired of calling corporate headquarters to complain, and either put on hold until I give up, or told they don't want their employees confronting people.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,148 posts)
15. Alabama has a state-wide mandate also, but about 10% are ignoring it. And there are no consequences.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 08:01 PM
Dec 2020

The stores just let them pass in and out like they are prefered customers. Makes me so damned angry.

llmart

(15,638 posts)
17. I had two similar incidents in a Ace Hardware and now I just won't buy anything from them again.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 08:10 PM
Dec 2020

On one occasion two employees were stocking the shelves and they were both bitching and moaning about mask wearing. The woman was going on and on about how "evil" Governor Whitmer is and she said the word evil at least six times. The old fart white man was just as bad. I so wanted to walk by that woman and say, "Well, I am so surprised that you know so much more than the scientists and yet here you are putting bottles of weed killer on the shelf at a hardware store for minimum wage."

These people are too stupid to know they're stupid.

TheBlackAdder

(28,355 posts)
48. In NJ, we have a statewide mask mandate and I haven't seen anyone without as Five-O gets called.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 11:56 PM
Dec 2020

.

And if you're dumb enough to hang around, your ass is arrested.

As long as it's not Trump's Bedminster Golf Course. For some reason he gets a pass.

.

roamer65

(36,752 posts)
7. I received a complement on my full face shield automotive gas mask today.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 07:19 PM
Dec 2020

The store owner said, “You’ve got the right idea”. Turns out the virus took a good swat at his extended family.

I had a good chat with him.

vapor2

(1,300 posts)
8. TRYING really hard to keep my mouth shut
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 07:43 PM
Dec 2020

since these non compliant a**holes are simply crazy. Saw an older man driving his handicap scooter with his mask below his nose and then he pulled it down below his chin. He was more than 6 ft from me but still too close so I asked him to put his mask on properly. He ranted and raved for at least 10 minutes telling me he didn't need someone to tell him what to do. REALLY? If you refuse to comply with the store's policy AND the state's policy then clearly you need to be told what to do.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
10. I live in Florida
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 07:49 PM
Dec 2020

And I have health issues. When can I start pulling a gun on maskless morons and stand my ground? They are trying to murder me.

birdographer

(1,447 posts)
13. I don't suppose
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 07:57 PM
Dec 2020

this is a business with a PA or any kind of loudspeaker system? I would have been on there so fast, announcing that two people (describe what they are wearing, age bracket) in the store are not wearing the required masks, and so to be aware of them and stay away from them since they could be highly infectious and are unconcerned about the health of other customers. Yeah...it might clear the place out, but it would single those people out and would probably be somewhat affective. And it would feel very, very good.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,148 posts)
14. I feel so badly for your situation and those others who are in similar ones...
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 07:59 PM
Dec 2020

I just can't get it. If they were naked, you could turn them away, but you have to allow them in if they are endangering your health.
I JUST DON'T FUCKING GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr.Bill

(24,438 posts)
18. If a bar can afford to hire an off-duty cop in uniform to be a bouncer,
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 08:13 PM
Dec 2020

I'd think a supermarket could do the same. In fact, with all the bars being closed in so many places, there must be a lot of bouncers looking for work.

catrose

(5,105 posts)
23. And with bars closed in so many places, bouncers are unemployed.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 08:31 PM
Dec 2020

So hire them as mask security in grocery stores, not to be violent, just a more imposing presence than a teenage girl.

NellieStarbuck

(266 posts)
21. I'm so sorry you have to endure this.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 08:24 PM
Dec 2020

Both of my kids work with the public, one in a grocery store and the other in a gym. They occasisonally encounter maskholes, but at least their employers and the state have their backs. They do not wait on people who are unmasked. They ask them to leave and, if they don't, they call the cops.

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
22. "fun" fact
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 08:26 PM
Dec 2020

More people died yesterday of CV-19 in the U.S. than died in Japan and S. Korea over the entire course of the pandemic. GOP / Trump's solutions to the pandemic can only be described as a massive failure.

wryter2000

(46,361 posts)
24. You deserve more support than that
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 08:46 PM
Dec 2020

They should be told they will only be served if they wear a mask. Lots of companies are doing that.

Ahpook

(2,755 posts)
26. They are assholes
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:00 PM
Dec 2020

I went in Best Buy to get a new TV a few days ago. The clerk thanked me for wearing a mask and said one of those maskless wonders just told him he is going to burn in hell for asking him to wear one. He even handed him a free one to wear while shopping. Nope!

Burn in hell? Where the heck does that come from?

And the poor clerk lost his son to the virus recently.

70sEraVet

(3,653 posts)
28. Governments need to handle the mask situation like the seatbelt law.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:07 PM
Dec 2020

Nobody liked it, but nobody wanted to pay fines.

LPBBEAR

(304 posts)
29. Not happening here...
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:08 PM
Dec 2020

I wouldn't help these assholes at all. If I was at a register and they came up with no mask I would shut down the register, lock it, and walk away. Tell your General Manager to help them. The sooner he catches Covid the better off the employees will be.

KT2000

(20,643 posts)
31. Businesses should follow Costco
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:14 PM
Dec 2020

They do not let anyone in without a mask and if they find someone shopping who has taken their mask off, they are escorted out of the store. They do not back down. They now have hand cleaning stations throughout the store. You could bring that up to your manager.

A business does not have to let people shop inside the store. The ADA only requires that businesses make reasonable accommodation. Curbside delivery and at home delivery solve that problem.

There is no reason why a person should be allowed to possibly infect the workers. But of course the R's are working to relieve businesses of liability if they force people to work under those conditions.

Tribetime

(4,853 posts)
34. I think you should be getting Hazard pay
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:30 PM
Dec 2020

I was in Home Depot yesterday when there was one person without a mask and another person with a mask that took it off the sneeze and cough several times and then put it back on and this was while they were trying to ask an employee questions

Smackdown2019

(1,204 posts)
36. I stop shopping
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:49 PM
Dec 2020

I have stopped helping businesses that allow such ignorance. I have stop going to small pop store, dollar tree stores, certain Walmarts that dont force it. Only place I know that is really enforcing it, is Menards. I have been using Walmart grocery pickup. Kinda nice. But I mostly do online shopping nowadays. Gas stations, forget it! Also, quick point. Use your car keys to push the key pads.... never your fingers.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,985 posts)
37. It's bullshit that the anti-maskers will get violent.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:49 PM
Dec 2020

Places that enforce the mask wearing don't have assholes pulling guns on them. Oh, some of the scream loudly and long, but they need to be told to wear a mask or leave, and be forcibly removed if necessary.

niyad

(114,907 posts)
41. Have you missed all the stories of people getting stabbed, shot, beaten, ?kILLED???? For
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:58 PM
Dec 2020

trying to enforce mask mandates? Really????

MichMan

(12,091 posts)
52. Flint Michigan earlier this year
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 01:59 PM
Dec 2020


FLINT – Genesee County Prosecutor David Leyton has charged three individuals in the killing of a security guard at a Family Dollar store just north of downtown Flint during an argument over a state order for shoppers to wear face masks during the COVID-19 pandemic.

A 23-year-old man, 44-year-old man, and 45-year-old woman, all of Flint, have been charged with first-degree murder and weapons charges in the May 1 shooting death of 43-year-old guard Calvin James Munerlyn.



[link:https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2020/05/3-charged-in-fatal-shooting-of-guard-enforcing-mask-use-at-flint-store.html|
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
53. Yeah, some stupid woman was told to wear a mask at a Dollar Store. Refused.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 02:32 PM
Dec 2020

Went to get her boyfriend, and they came back and shot the poor security guard dead. I forget where it was.

I want to say Michigan, pretty sure it wasn’t in the south. They were arrested at least.

PurgedVoter

(2,238 posts)
39. Truth about Texas
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:57 PM
Dec 2020

The conservative rich old folk in Texas, male or female, do not ever, and I mean ever wash before getting in the pool. Seriously, I have been in a position to know and observe this and you can bet money on it. I have observed this in expensive private pools, country clubs and public pools. Another thing you will never see. One of them getting out to go to relive their bladder. It just doesn't ever happen and if they do go to the bathroom you can again be sure that they did not go to the shower before coming back.
They talk standards and manners but their version of class is the same as Trumps version of class and that goes way back.

The mask issue is just making their commitment to community standards obvious.

MyMission

(1,862 posts)
44. I turn my back and essentially hide from customers
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 11:07 PM
Dec 2020

If they won't wear a mask, and I make sure they understand that I'm avoiding them. Most do wear one, or put one on when we ask "do you have a mask, or do you need one?" But we do get some who refuse to wear one. We have a barrier at the checkout counter, an extra line of defense, especially for the rare occasions the customer is not wearing a mask.

I'm in NC. Even with a Dem governor, he didn't impose penalties or fines and left it to businesses to manage their own compliance. Many states do the same, but some impose fines which seems to increase compliance. I work downtown, in a tourist and retirement town. Many businesses have signs requiring masks, but many have no sign and those store owners or workers aren't wearing one. Our current sign says "please wear your mask over your nose... it's a mask, not a chinstrap" and many come in chuckling as they read it.

On an unrelated note, I was supposed to be in Texas this weekend for my cousin's 75th birthday, bought tickets last December, cancelled my flight last month when cases started to soar. Been looking forward to it a long time, even though I don't like to fly in general. I was going to wear goggles and medical grade mask for my Flight, if I ended up going, if cases were declining.
Meanwhile, I knew I wasn't getting on a plane any time soon.

lame54

(35,482 posts)
46. We FINALLY are allowed to deny them entry...
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 11:34 PM
Dec 2020

If they remove it while inside and refuse to put it back on when asked we won't check them out

Morale has improved

pecosbob

(7,621 posts)
50. Zero tolerance in my workplace, a corporate-owned convenience store
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 01:15 AM
Dec 2020

I had one guy walk in my shop the other day and tell me he was 'exempt'. I told him to feel free to be exempt elsewhere., but that he would not be served without a mask.

NO SHOES, NO SHIRT, NO MASK NO SERVICE!

Ms. Toad

(34,423 posts)
54. You don't "have to let them shop."
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 02:35 PM
Dec 2020

Curbside delivery is an appropriate option for people who will not (or cannot) wear a mask. There is no reason to let them inside the store - where they put everyone's life at risk.

Iwasthere

(3,207 posts)
56. As they're traveling around the store broadcast their location and warn
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 06:25 PM
Dec 2020

... other shoppers. Treat them like they're toxic (which they are). When I encounter someone I, exaggeratingly jump to a very wide birth with wide eyes. Other shoppers tend to join in.

quakerboy

(13,949 posts)
58. Last Id heard
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 06:43 PM
Dec 2020

There is no requirement for anyone to be allowed in a business who happens to be violating the rules of that business.

Whats the instructions if another customer has a BIG problem with an antimasker, and is perfectly willing to confront that person themselves, to save your employees the trouble?

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
59. I don't think I'd stop them.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 06:59 PM
Dec 2020

I might pretend to try and diffuse the situation just so I could tell my boss I attempted to break it up.

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