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How Come Cashiers At 24/7 ... (Original Post) ItsjustMe Dec 2020 OP
cuz they can't solve every problem with an execution? nt msongs Dec 2020 #1
It would be better if they had the Tazer and the Cops have the Burgers. Arne Dec 2020 #2
That would probaly cut down on the use of excessive force. n/t DFW Dec 2020 #11
Point of post went over my head. Fla Dem Dec 2020 #3
The poster wants cops to de-escalate better instead of shooting people. nt IronLionZion Dec 2020 #4
Thank you. I was looking at it from a totally different POV. Fla Dem Dec 2020 #7
They can't and don't. former9thward Dec 2020 #5
That's very true. Laha Dec 2020 #8
Sometimes they are. Sometimes they are dealing with a child soldierant Dec 2020 #9
Like Eric Garner? Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #12
If you want McDonald's employees to be your police force former9thward Dec 2020 #13
Now you're deflecting from your earlier claim. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #14
There are millions of interactions between police and others everyday. former9thward Dec 2020 #15
That is not a false dichotomy. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #17
It does not follow LanternWaste Dec 2020 #18
Parody? Nt USALiberal Dec 2020 #16
Just last night I encountered a situation like this. Laha Dec 2020 #6
There you go. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2020 #10

Fla Dem

(25,121 posts)
3. Point of post went over my head.
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 07:09 PM
Dec 2020

Is Bryan Yang suggesting cashiers at MacDonald's should put themselves in harm's way to de-escalate an angry, out of control individual who is threatening said cashier, who probably only makes minimum wage, instead of calling law enforcement?

And then I also don't get the response. Is Janette saying she will get fired if they don't de-escalate the situation? If so that isn't really answering Mr. Yang's initial question .

Am I missing the point? Was there a recent incident the initiated this

Fla Dem

(25,121 posts)
7. Thank you. I was looking at it from a totally different POV.
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 07:52 PM
Dec 2020

Your response immediately clarified it.

former9thward

(33,027 posts)
5. They can't and don't.
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 07:35 PM
Dec 2020

They are dealing with someone pissed off over a hamburger or fries. They can give the money back or the food for free. Cops are dealing with someone beating their girlfriend half to death.

Laha

(414 posts)
8. That's very true.
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 08:05 PM
Dec 2020

That's what usually happens.

But sometimes these idiots get violent. Fortunately where I live it's a rarity.

soldierant

(7,635 posts)
9. Sometimes they are. Sometimes they are dealing with a child
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 08:12 PM
Dec 2020

with a toy gun. Sometoimes they are dealing with a person entering his home with a sandwich.

Sometimes even another (more experienced, better trained) cop can't stop them from shooting. (Really, a cop should not need to deescalate his or her own partner before deescalating the non-cop in the situation.)

former9thward

(33,027 posts)
13. If you want McDonald's employees to be your police force
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 10:51 AM
Dec 2020

talk to your elected officials. The people in my community don't want that.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,144 posts)
14. Now you're deflecting from your earlier claim.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 01:37 PM
Dec 2020

In response to an obvious absurdity used to illustrate a real problem -- the joke of the OP -- you said, "Cops are dealing with someone beating their girlfriend half to death." The killing of Eric Garner is sufficient to show that statement is far too narrow to the point of excluding the very problem the OP's joke is meant to illustrate.

A false dichotomy doesn't help.

former9thward

(33,027 posts)
15. There are millions of interactions between police and others everyday.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 07:15 PM
Dec 2020

Almost none of them are Eric Garner situations. That is why it made the news. False dichotomy indeed.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,144 posts)
17. That is not a false dichotomy.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 07:27 PM
Dec 2020

It's not an either-or situation. There is no dispute that most interactions with most police officers do not end in someone being killed. There are sufficient escalated interactions, particularly with black people, that it is clear that something needs to be changed.

The OP uses a joke to show some of this problem -- that there are too many police who escalate immediately and that they are largely immune to being fired or prosecuted. The joke does not suggest replacing police officers with McDonald's workers. It does not address the millions of interactions which do not escalate beyond necessity.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
18. It does not follow
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 07:30 PM
Dec 2020

You do realize the possibilities are wider than merely two extremes, yes?

If not, try talking to your elected officials.

Laha

(414 posts)
6. Just last night I encountered a situation like this.
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 07:51 PM
Dec 2020

Some person refusing to acknowledge when the attendant was telling him he couldn't serve him unless he wore a mask. I got angry and yelled at him to put on a mask or get the hell out. But the employee was beyond professional in signalling to me that I shouldn't get involved and just gave the person a refund and he left.

People talk too much shit about McDonald's employees. They're well trained and most of them take their jobs seriously.

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