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(69,279 posts)Arne
(3,387 posts)DFW
(55,858 posts)Fla Dem
(25,121 posts)Is Bryan Yang suggesting cashiers at MacDonald's should put themselves in harm's way to de-escalate an angry, out of control individual who is threatening said cashier, who probably only makes minimum wage, instead of calling law enforcement?
And then I also don't get the response. Is Janette saying she will get fired if they don't de-escalate the situation? If so that isn't really answering Mr. Yang's initial question .
Am I missing the point? Was there a recent incident the initiated this
IronLionZion
(46,618 posts)Fla Dem
(25,121 posts)Your response immediately clarified it.
former9thward
(33,027 posts)They are dealing with someone pissed off over a hamburger or fries. They can give the money back or the food for free. Cops are dealing with someone beating their girlfriend half to death.
Laha
(414 posts)That's what usually happens.
But sometimes these idiots get violent. Fortunately where I live it's a rarity.
soldierant
(7,635 posts)with a toy gun. Sometoimes they are dealing with a person entering his home with a sandwich.
Sometimes even another (more experienced, better trained) cop can't stop them from shooting. (Really, a cop should not need to deescalate his or her own partner before deescalating the non-cop in the situation.)
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,144 posts)former9thward
(33,027 posts)talk to your elected officials. The people in my community don't want that.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,144 posts)In response to an obvious absurdity used to illustrate a real problem -- the joke of the OP -- you said, "Cops are dealing with someone beating their girlfriend half to death." The killing of Eric Garner is sufficient to show that statement is far too narrow to the point of excluding the very problem the OP's joke is meant to illustrate.
A false dichotomy doesn't help.
former9thward
(33,027 posts)Almost none of them are Eric Garner situations. That is why it made the news. False dichotomy indeed.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,144 posts)It's not an either-or situation. There is no dispute that most interactions with most police officers do not end in someone being killed. There are sufficient escalated interactions, particularly with black people, that it is clear that something needs to be changed.
The OP uses a joke to show some of this problem -- that there are too many police who escalate immediately and that they are largely immune to being fired or prosecuted. The joke does not suggest replacing police officers with McDonald's workers. It does not address the millions of interactions which do not escalate beyond necessity.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)You do realize the possibilities are wider than merely two extremes, yes?
If not, try talking to your elected officials.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Laha
(414 posts)Some person refusing to acknowledge when the attendant was telling him he couldn't serve him unless he wore a mask. I got angry and yelled at him to put on a mask or get the hell out. But the employee was beyond professional in signalling to me that I shouldn't get involved and just gave the person a refund and he left.
People talk too much shit about McDonald's employees. They're well trained and most of them take their jobs seriously.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,971 posts)Pretty simple.