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albacore

(2,420 posts)
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 06:47 PM Dec 2020

Secret Executive Orders...PEADs

Everybody NEEDS to read this article. No skimming.
The Presidents - since FDR - have issued secret executive orders that enable them to do just about anything.
They've all used them. trump knows about them... and that scares the shit out of me. It should do the same with you. He still has 50 or so days...

"A few hours before the inauguration ceremony, the prospective president receives an elaborate and highly classified briefing on the means and procedures for blowing up the world with a nuclear attack, a rite of passage that a former official described as “a sobering moment.” Secret though it may be, we are at least aware that this introduction to apocalypse takes place. At some point in the first term, however, experts surmise that an even more secret briefing occurs, one that has never been publicly acknowledged. In it, the new president learns how to blow up the Constitution.

The session introduces “presidential emergency action documents,” or PEADs, orders that authorize a broad range of mortal assaults on our civil liberties. In the words of a rare declassified official description, the documents outline how to “implement extraordinary presidential authority in response to extraordinary situations”—by imposing martial law, suspending habeas corpus, seizing control of the internet, imposing censorship, and incarcerating so-called subversives, among other repressive measures. “We know about the nuclear briefcase that carries the launch codes,” Joel McCleary, a White House official in the Carter Administration, told me. “But over at the Office of Legal Counsel at the Justice Department there’s a list of all the so-called enemies of the state who would be rounded up in an emergency. I’ve heard it called the ‘enemies briefcase.’ ”


https://harpers.org/archive/2020/11/the-enemies-briefcase-secret-powers-of-the-presidency/

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Grasswire2

(13,589 posts)
4. This was posted weeks ago, and didn't get much notice then.
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 06:54 PM
Dec 2020

Hopefully this time around, people will read it. Thanks.

Buckeyeblue

(5,520 posts)
11. Interesting. However, these secret orders don't work in a vacuum
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 07:41 PM
Dec 2020

Trump could declare martial law, let's say, because of widespread voter fraud. He could call it a danger to our national security. But this only works if military and law enforcement go along with him. What if military leaders tell him to go jump in a lake?

I think these extreme orders work on the idea that everyone would "know" if the time was right to exercise them.

I wonder if Trump has ever been seen with the legitimacy it would require to enact such extreme measures on the country. The citizens would have to believe that a president truly loved the country before they would accept the enacting of measures that could ruin it. Trump only loves himself.

Buckeyeblue

(5,520 posts)
12. Interesting. However, these secret orders don't work in a vacuum
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 07:41 PM
Dec 2020

Trump could declare martial law, let's say, because of widespread voter fraud. He could call it a danger to our national security. But this only works if military and law enforcement go along with him. What if military leaders tell him to go jump in a lake?

I think these extreme orders work on the idea that everyone would "know" if the time was right to exercise them.

I wonder if Trump has ever been seen with the legitimacy it would require to enact such extreme measures on the country. The citizens would have to believe that a president truly loved the country before they would accept the enacting of measures that could ruin it. Trump only loves himself.

dware

(12,691 posts)
14. Pissolini has not purged the upper military, he's purged the civilian
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 11:16 PM
Dec 2020

leadership.

The JCoS have made it very clear that they will not get involved in the election nor get involved in civilian law enforcement matters and I highly doubt the military would follow his illegal orders, not after he's denigrated the military.

I spent a half my life time in the military, it is drummed into our heads that our oath is to the Constitution, not to any individual, and it is our sworn duty to refuse to carry out an illegal order, which, again, this would clearly be illegal.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
17. He'd only need a few, in the right place at the right time...
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 12:14 AM
Dec 2020

...to cause inconceivable chaos. Do I think he'd succeed in a coup? No. But he could damage the country so much that it would take years, decades, to recover...

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