Wed Dec 2, 2020, 06:47 PM
albacore (2,110 posts)
Secret Executive Orders...PEADs
Everybody NEEDS to read this article. No skimming.
The Presidents - since FDR - have issued secret executive orders that enable them to do just about anything. They've all used them. trump knows about them... and that scares the shit out of me. It should do the same with you. He still has 50 or so days... "A few hours before the inauguration ceremony, the prospective president receives an elaborate and highly classified briefing on the means and procedures for blowing up the world with a nuclear attack, a rite of passage that a former official described as “a sobering moment.” Secret though it may be, we are at least aware that this introduction to apocalypse takes place. At some point in the first term, however, experts surmise that an even more secret briefing occurs, one that has never been publicly acknowledged. In it, the new president learns how to blow up the Constitution. The session introduces “presidential emergency action documents,” or PEADs, orders that authorize a broad range of mortal assaults on our civil liberties. In the words of a rare declassified official description, the documents outline how to “implement extraordinary presidential authority in response to extraordinary situations”—by imposing martial law, suspending habeas corpus, seizing control of the internet, imposing censorship, and incarcerating so-called subversives, among other repressive measures. “We know about the nuclear briefcase that carries the launch codes,” Joel McCleary, a White House official in the Carter Administration, told me. “But over at the Office of Legal Counsel at the Justice Department there’s a list of all the so-called enemies of the state who would be rounded up in an emergency. I’ve heard it called the ‘enemies briefcase.’ ” https://harpers.org/archive/2020/11/the-enemies-briefcase-secret-powers-of-the-presidency/
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albacore | Dec 2020 | OP |
OAITW r.2.0 | Dec 2020 | #1 | |
Hekate | Dec 2020 | #3 | |
Paper Roses | Dec 2020 | #2 | |
Grasswire2 | Dec 2020 | #4 | |
albacore | Dec 2020 | #6 | |
Grasswire2 | Dec 2020 | #8 | |
albacore | Dec 2020 | #9 | |
Grasswire2 | Dec 2020 | #10 | |
albacore | Dec 2020 | #5 | |
58Sunliner | Dec 2020 | #7 | |
Buckeyeblue | Dec 2020 | #11 | |
Buckeyeblue | Dec 2020 | #12 | |
albacore | Dec 2020 | #13 | |
dware | Dec 2020 | #14 | |
albacore | Dec 2020 | #16 | |
First Speaker | Dec 2020 | #17 | |
bdamomma | Dec 2020 | #15 |
Response to albacore (Original post)
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 06:52 PM
OAITW r.2.0 (19,107 posts)
1. I'd like to see MSNBC cover this.
Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #1)
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 06:53 PM
Hekate (84,108 posts)
3. I'll bet Rachel would if you wrote to her
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Response to albacore (Original post)
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 06:53 PM
Paper Roses (7,387 posts)
2. Good grief, more to worry about. n/t
Response to albacore (Original post)
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 06:54 PM
Grasswire2 (13,036 posts)
4. This was posted weeks ago, and didn't get much notice then.
Hopefully this time around, people will read it. Thanks.
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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #4)
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 06:59 PM
albacore (2,110 posts)
6. I read the dead-trees version in the magazine, but didn't find a copyable version until now.
Response to albacore (Reply #6)
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 07:04 PM
Grasswire2 (13,036 posts)
8. here's the link
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214421767
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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #8)
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 07:10 PM
albacore (2,110 posts)
9. The DU search function doesn't.
Response to albacore (Reply #9)
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 07:17 PM
Grasswire2 (13,036 posts)
10. Just realized that I was able to access the text then because I'm a subscriber. nt
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Response to albacore (Original post)
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 06:56 PM
albacore (2,110 posts)
5. Those orders are real... and secret.
Response to albacore (Original post)
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 07:41 PM
Buckeyeblue (5,280 posts)
11. Interesting. However, these secret orders don't work in a vacuum
Trump could declare martial law, let's say, because of widespread voter fraud. He could call it a danger to our national security. But this only works if military and law enforcement go along with him. What if military leaders tell him to go jump in a lake?
I think these extreme orders work on the idea that everyone would "know" if the time was right to exercise them. I wonder if Trump has ever been seen with the legitimacy it would require to enact such extreme measures on the country. The citizens would have to believe that a president truly loved the country before they would accept the enacting of measures that could ruin it. Trump only loves himself. |
Response to albacore (Original post)
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 07:41 PM
Buckeyeblue (5,280 posts)
12. Interesting. However, these secret orders don't work in a vacuum
Trump could declare martial law, let's say, because of widespread voter fraud. He could call it a danger to our national security. But this only works if military and law enforcement go along with him. What if military leaders tell him to go jump in a lake?
I think these extreme orders work on the idea that everyone would "know" if the time was right to exercise them. I wonder if Trump has ever been seen with the legitimacy it would require to enact such extreme measures on the country. The citizens would have to believe that a president truly loved the country before they would accept the enacting of measures that could ruin it. Trump only loves himself. |
Response to Buckeyeblue (Reply #12)
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 11:08 PM
albacore (2,110 posts)
13. trump has purged the military leadership... several times. Junior grades now in charge. nt
Response to albacore (Reply #13)
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 11:16 PM
dware (9,761 posts)
14. Pissolini has not purged the upper military, he's purged the civilian
leadership.
The JCoS have made it very clear that they will not get involved in the election nor get involved in civilian law enforcement matters and I highly doubt the military would follow his illegal orders, not after he's denigrated the military. I spent a half my life time in the military, it is drummed into our heads that our oath is to the Constitution, not to any individual, and it is our sworn duty to refuse to carry out an illegal order, which, again, this would clearly be illegal. |
Response to dware (Reply #14)
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 12:08 AM
albacore (2,110 posts)
16. I beg to differ. Look at the generals trump has forced out or fired. nt
Response to Buckeyeblue (Reply #12)
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 12:14 AM
First Speaker (4,689 posts)
17. He'd only need a few, in the right place at the right time...
...to cause inconceivable chaos. Do I think he'd succeed in a coup? No. But he could damage the country so much that it would take years, decades, to recover...
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Response to albacore (Original post)
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 11:23 PM
bdamomma (62,320 posts)
15. Kick for visibility
and rec
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