Understanding the mind of Trump voter

[Dem4Life1102]

A Trump supporting relative of mine posted this on Facebook:

People who reject Trump as a role-model and a statesman, but reject the “woke culture,” even more. These people are exhausted by nightly images of rioters and looters allowed to run amuck. They’re sick of the incessant virtue signaling from every quarter of society. They're weary of cancel culture, safe spaces, “mostly peaceful” protests, the 1619 Project, and the countless attacks on free speech, and lectures from what they believe to be a completely biased media. For them, Trump is not a candidate - he's a giant middle finger to those who would suppress the Hunter Biden story, or re-edit Gone With the Wind, or rewrite Huck Finn, or disrespect our flag, or topple statues of anyone who doesn't measure up to their enlightened sensibilities. For these people, a vote for Trump is the only way to confront the "wokeness" that now defines big media, higher education, corporate America, Hollywood, and professional sports." It's the only way to say, "Enough already."

It’s not about supporting any principles or ideals that they believe. It’s all about who and what they hate. Their narrow and false world view is increasingly being challenged and like a spoiled child they can’t handle it, so they rather just wreck everything. Hillary was right, they are deplorable.

[underpants]

1. So...scared ignorant racists. To be fair there is a punk rock element to Trump

not that his followers would probably much like that but there is.

[Shermann]

4. A punk rocker, that's a good way to put it

He never learned to play his instrument, but is up on stage making a big racket anyway.

[progressoid]

69. Nazi Punks Fuck Off

[Mike Nelson]

2. Insightful...

... would add... they don't consider themselves to be bigots, but they see immigrants at the 7-11 corner... and gay people getting married.. and a Black family in the White House... and more women in power... and other religions... and they feel like it's an invasion of their lifestyle. They feel threatened and afraid of it all.

[Celerity]

3. That level of deep programming cannot be shoved back into the bottle, it needs to be pulverised

in terms of ANY actual national political power. It is only doing to get worse and worse, as it now has a technological ecosystem that has become a self re-enforcing feedback loop now.

[wnylib]

52. Add to that the way that Trump will

spend his time after leaving the White House.

He will be in nonstop attack mode against the Biden administration, and his followers will lap it up. He will become the loudest, most attention-seeking RW media star.

I remember that, when my sister and I were still in high school, we discussed a civics class lesson on the stages that precede a civil war or revolutionary overthrow of government in a republic. I do not recall now each individual stage in detail, but I do remember that, in the later stages, after extreme, long-lasting polarization, a moderate leader comes forward to stabilize and normalize the people and political system. That is the crucial stage. If the people resist reconciliation, and especially if the anti government side ramps up opposition to the moderate leader's administration, the system breaks down.

It's pretty obvious what stage we're at today. Biden's win is just the beginning of saving our republic. We cannot afford to get complacent about his win. We need to win over as many Biden opponents as possible, even if it means that we mentally hold our noses in discussions with them. Address their feelings rather than have argumentative debates with them. Trump and his circle need to be isolated and marginalized. Holding Trump accountable without further arousing his followers will be tricky, but necessary.

Remaining unified as a party will be essential for Dems. That doesn't mean we can't have policy differences of opinion among ourselves and discuss them. It does mean that we can promote our ideas and policies civilly, in ways that don't cause sharp splits among ourselves, which would be suicidal for the part and the nation. In order to make the changes we want, we need to retain our leadership as a party.

[BlueNProud]

5. They're pissed because they see interracial couples in television commercials

that about sums it up.

[no_hypocrisy]

6. Thwarting their efforts to return Jim Crow and segregation (perhaps slavery on a small-scale basis)

and American apartheid. Total erasure of The Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act.

Trump was going to deliver this all to them.

[sop]

7. In other words, these folks have been consuming FOX News and rightwing talk radio BS for years.

This little diatribe reads like the usual Tucker Carlson or Lou Dobbs rant.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

30. Exactly what I thought. What stuck out immediately was the rioting

and looting.

When we recently drive cross country, we didn't listen to the news. My husband's mother called and warned us not to go near any major cities. The were ALL on fire with dangerous looters everywhere! We were like "Whaaaa? " A simple google proved that 100% false.

But the right takes full advantage of low-infos. Or maybe there's a better term for them? People who take fox et al as gospel and never research.

[onlyadream]

33. I went to NYC, midtown,

To help clean out a friend’s apartment, in July, and my MIL was insane with concern about all the rioting. I walked s few blocks from Grand Central and, except for the smell of bleach and the people with masks on, all was normal.

People like my MIL believe anything that increases their fear level. Then they tell us not to believe the news.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

70. Yes. This is a phenomenon that has really become evident

w/trump. I had really never thought much about. Perhaps they tend to be older and don't live by google?

Or it's become apparent that certain people just don't have natural curiosity? Before computers didn't open up an encyclopedia? Read newspapers? Isn't it funny, perhaps there was no widespread lying and ironically in a time when you couldn't research. Of course there was Hitler

[albacore]

8. Yes, I read the whole post...but...

I am weary of anything that even sounds like "We have to understand where they are coming from."
I don't give a fuck where they are coming from.
Time for power politics.
We outnumber them... and that's only going to increase in the next few years.
Fuck 'em.
Oh.... and ....Fuck Their Feelings.
:large

[Turin_C3PO]

54. What a horrendous couple.

Perfect representation of Trumpism.

[mrs_p]

9. Aka white supremacists

I grew up around the thinly veiled language - in the Seattle area. I recognize them for what they are.

[eShirl]

10. cutting off their nose to spite their face

[Crunchy Frog]

11. In other words, totally willing to sacrifice America on the alter of their delusion. n/t

[VOX]

12. The common thread is maintaining white supremacy...

To the point where they would easily trade democracy for a dictatorship to keep things white and Christian.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

13. So they vote for a giant middle finger, instead of a candidate.

What could possibly go wrong?

We desperately need to dump a whole lot of money into improving our schools, and focus on teaching kids critical thinking skills from the time they enter the school system right up until they graduate from high school.

Preventing Idiocracy 101.

[Silver Gaia]

23. Yes! Thank you.

I so agree with you.

[niyad]

44. The problem is, the powers that be don't want that. You cannot control a populace possessed

Of critical thinking skills. The failures in our educational system are deliberate.

[Trailrider1951]

59. You're absolutely right!

The problem is republican defunding of public schools, especially our land grant state colleges and universities. Students now have to take out loans that make them wage slaves for 20 years. There used to be plenty of grants and scholarships available to low income students. Where did all the money go? Tax breaks for corporations and millionaires.

[Doodley]

14. As a white man, I look forward to whites being the minority, to have a black female president called

Kamala, to see Trumpism reduced to a a tiny minority, and to see some grace and dignity on right. When all that happens, America will be a far, far better place.

[PJMcK]

19. I'm with you, Doodley

We white men haven't done such a good job. It's time to hand the reins to the "others" (as a Republican colleague called them).

I loved seeing Hillary on the ticket and was heartbroken when Trump & Co. stole that election. I loved having President Obama represent the U.S. to the world. I'll love seeing Kamala Harris as Vice President.

I don't know if I'll live long enough to see whites become the minority but I sure do like seeing our elected officials start to look like the real America that I know and love.

[JHB]

15. If they're weary of all that, maybe, just suggesting... TURN OFF FOX!

Turn off talk radio.
Take your favorite conservative websites off your Favorites list.
Skip over OANN and any other conservative "news" channel.
Stay off Facebook and any other social media for a while.
You're old enough to remember how you spent your free time without those things. Go back to that for a while. Like, a couple of months.

All that stuff you're upset about is happening a lot less than you think, but you feel it closing in on you because you steep yourself in media that bangs a gong, magnifies it, and puts it right in your face every moment of the day.

You don't have to ignore the news, but stay away from the people who froth it up to reel you in and get you foaming mad. Take a break and decompress. That is the only way to say, "Enough already."

[Martin Eden]

16. Is it possible to placate those people without giving up on a more just society?

Racial justice, economic justice, gender justice?

[JI7]

20. Their problem is justice for women and minorities . It's not lack of justice for THEM which is the

problem for them.

[jcgoldie]

45. equality is so unfair

An egregious affront to many folks accustomed to privilege.

These Trumpers for whom he does nothing nor cares about even remotely remind me always of the central theme of WJ Cash "Mind of the South"... written in 1941 but the psychological dynamics of racism and white privilege have not changed... you could be poor white trash without education or a penny to your name living in squalor and oppression, your labor stolen from you... but at least you were white and no-one could take that from you. Its not about what you have its about belonging to a caste of perceived privilege. Until of course...

The president was black. And then oh fuck they are destroying our identity its so unfair!

My wife works in a nursing home as a therapist and she puzzles that CNAs who make $10 an hour are the most vocal Trump supporters. She posed to them that the Democratic platform included a $15 minimum wage. Many of them would see their pay increase by 30 or 40 %. The response? "No way I'm for that, then some kid off the street will come in here and make $15 same as me... I had to work YEARS for this $10!" Its not about what people have its about what other people DON'T have.

[plimsoll]

53. No

It’s why the left “needs to listen to Trump voters” arguments make so little sense. Black, Asian, Latinx, Indigenous people, have “Heard- it” for years. It’s the only part of movement conservatism that is actually conserved, the ability to discriminate with impunity.

This excerpt starts off with the argument that they don’t accept trump as a role model. That’s BS. There may be the occasional clutching of pearls but that’s for show, in their view Trump is an alpha male, and therefore can do what he wants. Say what they will, he can do what he wants because he’s powerful. They accept some collateral impact on themselves because on the whole trump promotes and supports open bigotry, and that is what they value.

[Martin Eden]

61. They feel their privilege is being threatened

They can't look in the mirror objectively or admit their own role in the injustice at the root of the protests.

More than anything, they HATE being told that.

People who think wearing a mask is too much to ask certainly aren't willing to step outside their comfort zone to see things from the perspective of people suffering from institutional and societal discrimination.

They think THEY are the victims in all this!

[niyad]

60. One does not placate assholes, it merely encourages and legitimizes them.

[Martin Eden]

67. Agree

The truly deplorable aren't worth wasting our time and effort.

However, what Abraham Lincoln said in 1858 is still an important truth today: a house divided against itself cannot stand.

We ihave to hold firm to our principles and goals. The difficult part is not responding in kind to the vitriol which continues to divide our country.

[Desert_Leslie]

17. A Catholic ...

A Catholic, a Woman of Color, a Teacher, and a Jew walk into the White House with a Rescue Dog ....

That's it. That's the post.

[WePurrsevere]

18. It's mostly fear that controls them and the GOP uses that fear...

along with a dash of greed, to instigate and manipulate their 'marks' into believing the illusion that 'cons have woven to manipulate for power and financial gain. The deception is accepted because it shifts responsibility for their inadequacies and failures from them, and their leaders, to 'other'.

These types of RWers truly fear the 'other', the unknown, whatever 'boogie man' and/or false narrative their RW political and religious leaders tell them is a threat. These types desperately want to go back to what they perceive as a safer and better time for 'them' even though that is an illusion that has been fed to them by the GOP and conservative owned media over the years.

[dameatball]

21. So when I tell someone to fuck off I am really "virtue signalling?" Cool. That sounds even better.

[redwing69]

22. SO had enough

good grief, could you fit one more nutbag grievance cliche in one post?
these people lead such fearful lives, and most of that shit is just flat-out made up or exaggerated to point of being ludicrous.
pathetic.

[Efilroft Sul]

24. It was never about economic anxiety at all, was it?

[lastlib]

25. ...requires a degree in geology.

becuz their heads are full of rocks.

[safeinOhio]

26. I just laugh and think of

Archie Bunker.

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[Johnny2X2X]

27. I have a unique perspective, I work with some brilliant Trump supporters

Aerospace engineer here. 2 of my mentors are Trump supporters. I have a deep respect for both of them. I have not spoken to one much at all about politics, but I have gathered from what he's said in passing that this is his take. The other I have talked with more, his take will be second.

First guy. Was a career military intelligence officer who spent his career working at Black Sites around the globe. He literally cannot tell me what he did, but he's an expert in cyber security, data encryption, and airborne defense systems, so I have an idea. He's in his 60s now. He is a strong family man, he's been married to the same woman for over 40 years, and his sons are also engineers. His whole life is supporting his family as one of his sons now has cancer and he's had to help his son's family get by for the last several years. Let's call him Andrew. Andrew is a law and order type right now, the riots he saw on TV were absolutely appalling to him. I'm sure he cannot stand Trump's demeanor, but he views the left's stance on rioting as they approve of it and with them in charge we'll see more of it. This was a huge losing issue for Dems, I know BLM is popular, but the rioting was used successfully against Dems up and down the ticket. Andrew is extremely dedicated to whatever job he is doing, he is the type of person who works 70 hours a week and no one knows he's putting in that much time, to Andrew, he accepts nothing but 100% effort from himself at all times. Andrew is just an outstanding person, I do not know how he reconciles Trump's other positions with his own morality, but I just know this one issue of rioting really got to him.

Second guy, let's call him Mark. Mark is a brilliant engineer, and was an officer in the Air Force. His leadership qualities are absolutely the best I've been around, he challenges those he's leading and gives them ownership and responsibility. He's personally made me better at everything I do and helped my career immeasurably. He's a good family man and generally just a nice guy, he'll do anything for anyone, friend or stranger. Mark finds out someone is in need and he doesn't even have to know the person, he'll go way way above and beyond to help in anyway possible. He'll spearhead fund raises for a sick child he doesn't even know, he's show up to help a near stranger build a wheelchair ramp for their recently handicapped wife. He's just that type of person. He doesn't like Trump at all, but he supports many of his policies. And here's where they get Mark, FOX has created this alternative universe where Trump has gotten more accomplished than any 5 other Presidents combined. So his stance is, "I wish he would shut the hell up, but look at this giant list of things he's gotten done." Mark also said before 2016, "If it was anyone other than Hillary." He exists in an information bubble. In his mind, Trump overhauled all of our trade deals, remade NAFTA, preserved religious freedom, removed millions of terrible regulations and on and on. He detests Trump personally and recognizes him as a weak leader, but think's he's just gotten a ton done. FWIW, I think there's a decent chance Mark voted Biden, but I'm not going to ask him.

Both of these guys are good people. Both are near genius level IQ wise. Both have military backgrounds. Both have succumbed to propaganda. That's what people need to know, propaganda works on smart people too. There are millions of smart Trump supporters too. The idiots get all of the attention, but there are other people like Andrew and Mark out there.

[LymphocyteLover]

34. Yes, no doubt there are tons of people like this. It's all about what media they consume.

If they fill their smart brains with Foxnews/conservative nonsense, they will have these priorities in politics.

The thing is-- if they are smart and logical-- how do they feel about Trump's stance on climate science or the pandemic? Do they know what a ridiculous and dangerous conspiracy theorist he is? How badly he's damaged us? Even his fiscal policies are terrible (except for the stock market, which is not clear how much he's affected it).

[Johnny2X2X]

38. I wonder the same thing

I've heard one of them say Climate Change was not proven.

They both are cynics. When I say Trump lies, they answer, "Politicians lie." Then I say this is different, he's told 25,000 lies, they might answer, "Who's even tracking that?"

They overlook what they know is wrong, because they think he's gotten things done that he hasn't.

I said to Mark one time, "Trump's policies aren't popular, now imagine if you disagreed with all of Obama's policies as much as most people do with Trump's, but that Obama behaved in the same way Trump does." They know there is something very wrong with Trump.

Like I said, I suspect Mark voted Biden, but he'd still say Trump has gotten more done than any President.

[LymphocyteLover]

56. People like this are a real conundrum. A lot of trump supporters are just uneducated bigots

who've consumed way too much rightwing media. But the ones who are smart and have an education and still rationalize Trump's utter madness, really frustrate me.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

48. They are not socially smart

It's that EQ stuff that psychologists talk about.

Right-wingers have lower emotional intelligence, says study

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2019/09/right-wingers-lower-emotional-intelligence-says-study/

[Johnny2X2X]

51. EQ is a big catch word at my work

I think everyone has taken the detailed EQ tests, I suspect they both score low on compassion related components of EQ. But overall, I don't think you get as far as both have with low over all EQ.

I really struggle to understand it myself. I just know that I'd trust both of these guys with my life, I'd go to either if I ever needed help on anything, and that both are really good people. I don't know how they exist, but they do.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

55. I think that makes them more susceptible

to falling into the Trump crowd. If they are white men in particular and they lack empathy for others outside their family and friends, then Republican party and Trump makes sense for them. Sexism and racism don't personally affect them, so they don't care. They have enough money and they don't care that many other people don't. They have access to health care and they don't care that other people don't. EQ plays a big role in making good societal decisions. If you don't much about other people, you make crappy decisions for the group.

[Johnny2X2X]

57. I think they care about others, just not society as much

Both of them do a lot of charity work, they care about people as individuals, but not about society in general as much.

Mark for instance, someone told him at lunch about a friend whose wife hurt her spine and how they were raising money for her for a wheelchair ramp. Mark insisted he be involved, so this is what he does, they were going to take some measurements one morning, instead Mark showed up the day before, got all the measurements and the next day showed up after having used his own money to purchase all of the lumber and was ready to build. They built a professional quality ramp in no time instead of just showing up to assess the job. Mark didn't want any thanks, he didn't care if anyone knew it was him who did it, he just saw a problem and someone struggling to deal with it so he fixed it. Mark also spent an entire year contacting different people in the US Marines after a coworker he barely knew had their house burn down and lost all of his medals and citations from being in the Marines, he replaced every medal and ribbon he could because he heard this Marine was upset he lost it all. That's the type of person he is, his goal is to retire early so he can start a flight school for missionaries and relief workers in Africa. He really cares about others. But he also just doesn't care much about society as a whole and doesn't see how government action benefits society much. He's a good person, he just has a blind spot I think, a weakness and inability to see one aspect of things that he doesn't know is there.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

62. Yeah, not caring about society as a whole is what I mean

They don't care about the people they've never met. That makes them ill equiped to make political decisions. Also, if they are conservative Christians, then that would explain a lot. Lots of group think and cultural pressure there to support Trump. I know someone who is like this too. They overlook what it is like for other people outside their religious group because they are so submersed in it.

[Johnny2X2X]

63. One is not religious, the other is, but not overly so

Mark, goes to church, not sure what denomination, but probably right wing. He's also fallen for the Christian victimhood thing. How it wasn't fair that at his kid's high school they wouldn't announce that some students were having bible study, but they would announce the LGBTQ group was meeting. Not that they didn't allow them to meet, they allowed student led bible study on school grounds at a public school, just that it wasn't allowed to be promoted. That made Christians victims some how and this country was against Christians. I pointed out how you basically have to be Christian to be elected to any office and how Christians control the entire country. That victimhood is a huge part of the propaganda.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

64. Kind of small issues from high school

to still be stuck on.

[plimsoll]

68. I've worked with guys like this for years.

You can easily get very far with low compassion related scores. I’d say most of the high flyers where I worked score very low but were never passed over. They deliver for their managers collateral damage be damned, and despite the noise people make about “virtue signaling” it really came down to who your patron was.

I’m not buying the propaganda excuse anymore. As you point out they seem cognizant of a number of flaws, but they always have one excuse to cover those behavior. I didn’t like everything about Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden, but the net positives out weighed those things.

The propaganda excuse presumes irrationally accepting a net negative option. It’s possible, but it’s more likely they’re harboring those other feelings but know it’s not socially acceptable to say so. The “but her emails,” or “law and order” become the cover story to hide something darker.

Elevator rides where always illuminating, people always assumed an older pasty faced white guy would agree. And I can kept my mouth shut because I knew these guys wouldn’t hesitate to use the employment equivalent of the dark alley.

[Thekaspervote]

58. So, as the Biden Administration settles in and he does good things, a ton of good things

Resets our place on the world stage, raises minimum wage, in general makes the world a safer place...and on an on you think that will change their minds?

From personal experience, my son in law I will say not. He is a West Point graduate, successful author, hard hard worker, good father, much of what you described in you 2 coworkers, and a total shill to RW media. Underneath I see a pattern of fear and anger. He keeps it well hidden he thinks, but one cannot be that close and not see it.

With him- a domineering mother, father that would not overrule the domineering mother. Raised to believe you gotta be a tough guy, lack of parental love, having always to strive to be good enough, but never could quite measure up. He’s caught in the adult to child relationship idea so the tough guy leader fits. An adult to adult relationship is not an easy thing for him, althou he manages that concept fairly well with my daughter, it doesn’t seem to apply to the rest of the world.

Since he has so immersed himself in RW media the past decade, he’s become more angry and less reachable..it’s a sad thing to watch, he's lost. Not sure it will ever change short of some terrible life altering event

[Thomas Hurt]

28. So fascists?

[lunasun]

29. One of my relatives said people r outraged by the lootings but never care about the police shootings

(or other deaths)+ this post reminded me of his comment on those kind of hearts and minds

The person wrote “images“so can I assume none of this occurred close to home -protests ,statues, or Hollywood .
Frustrated over safe spaces ,1619 Project ? Why they stick thier heads in there?
Good luck with your family member leaning towards fascism
Good luck to this country and our future
Hillary was right

[LymphocyteLover]

31. One of the many problems with this attittude is that having Trump as president doesn't solve

any of these issues. He just makes it all much worse.

And also, this is 99% retrograde bigotry and falling for GOP/FoxNews distractions.

[NoMoreRepugs]

32. Carefully crafted propaganda by Faux and HateRadio has

convinced them all those things are true and threaten each of them specifically. IMO you have to want to be convinced in order to support ones own twisted view of the world cuz really, if u were that stupid to just truly believe all that horseshit you wouldn’t be able to put on your pants and function in society.

[TruckFump]

35. Outstanding thread and posts.

Thoughtful replies. IMO, the only way to conquer the enemy is to understand them.

But: How do we blunt the influence of RW “news” stations and outlets and hate radio? This seems like a place to start.

I am sharing this thread with several friends.

[NNadir]

36. It's not hard to understand racists. They're racists.

Very little further insight is required.

It will be interesting to read Barack Obama's coming memoir, which if I get what the advances say, will touch on the role that racism played in his administration.

The fact is that lilly-white people, particularly those who have no interest in education and thus refuse to fund their schools, are intellectually and morally ill equipped to face the fact that a highly educated, highly intelligent, highly ethical and highly accomplished African American like Barack Obama is vastly superior to anything the can imagine in their sordid little brainless and bitter failed slovenly lives involved with wasting away in front of the TV fixated on detestable commentators on the Nazi propaganda channel Fox News.

[backroadblast]

37. that is a proper description

trump is a middle finger to america. patriotic people take offence to that sort of thing, self absorbed, what can my country do for me? types don't get offended by it...

be a better country for everyone if they did.

[mkell33]

40. I say

We should just focus internally on maintaining the Biden coalition. Work on the blue wall and grow the emerging strength in the south. Pay attention to our side. Work like hell on state by state, locale by locale strategy to address needs, build support, flip state legislatures and governorships. 70 million voted for someone like Trump. To hell with them. Let's grow our side state by state.

[LaMouffette]

41. Thank you for your post! Your relative's antagonism toward liberal "wokeness" made me realize . . .

that Trump supporters share a profound inability to see things from another person's point of view. They don't think about how it must feel to a descendant of slaves to walk past a statue of a Confederate "hero." They don't think about how it must feel to a Muslim American to have strangers glare at you and suspect you are a terrorist for no reason except that you are of Middle Eastern descent.

Remember Jane Elliott, the teacher who did the "blue-eyes, brown-eyes" experiment with her third graders? I think the Trump supporters all need to undergo that experiment to hopefully acquire some healthy empathy for others.

Here's an interesting segment from the wonderful Oprah Winfrey, who conducted a form of that experiment on her audience members:

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[Aviation Pro]

42. Any Shitbag voter want to understand the mind of a democracy supporter?

Nah, I didn't think so. Let them drown in their lung fluid for all I care about these valueless oxygen thieves.

[Darwin2019]

43. Read Jon Dean's Authoritarian Nightmare if you want to understand Trump supporters

https://www.amazon.com/Authoritarian-Nightmare-Trump-His-Followers-ebook/dp/B089G4SVRK/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=john+dean&qid=1605275589&sr=8-1

[Roc2020]

46. White Grievance is very powerful. And a lot of minorities

may support some of those grievances. Trump increased black and latinas this past election! The GOP can win the White House again.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

47. Bunch of cry babies

They cited non-problems and minor problems compared to the problem of DJT. Sick of virtue signalling, so they choose no virtue at all? I thought these people were Christian. Virtue signaling is supposed to be their jam. Maybe they're pissed that other people are doing it better than them these days? lol! This sounds like non-sense to me. A lot of these "problems" could be minimized if they spent less time on social media.

[MrScorpio]

49. Yeah, it's pretty hard for an ignorant white bigot in America

My heart just bleeds for their plight.

[mountain grammy]

50. I told my trumper dog groomer

we had canceled our plans to travel east for Thanksgiving this year. She said, yeah, the rioting and everything . I said, no the virus! 🙄

[es466]

65. The 1950s are not coming back, but somehow that makes them victims

[Wounded Bear]

66. Obviously we lefties don't know enough buzzwords and memes...

[andym]

71. The GOP and conservatives have been and are backing culture wars to enthrall their voters

Basically, they use culture to keep their voters on their side. We have to find a way past that to have any chance of having an even somewhat unified country. The culture wars have a racism component, but also have various other components: anti-political correctness, and pro-traditional religious values (remember trump saying he saved Christmas--one of his many ridiculous statements), among many others.

[Progressive Jones]

72. I want nothing to do with people whose lack of

character leads them to foist a piece if garbage like Trump upon our nation in a childlike tantrum.