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By trump claiming the election was a fraud, he is really saying... (Original Post) duforsure Nov 2020 OP
He may not be lying... He probably knows how badly the Russians JCMach1 Nov 2020 #1
I suspect that Russians DID hack into the vote tabulating systems... Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #2
yeah...they already had the goods stillcool Nov 2020 #5
I seriously doubt that, especially on a national level. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #3
Not how hacking works. It's always focused and local JCMach1 Nov 2020 #4

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
1. He may not be lying... He probably knows how badly the Russians
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:01 PM
Nov 2020

Hacked it

Why he thinks he won it again.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,431 posts)
2. I suspect that Russians DID hack into the vote tabulating systems...
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:07 PM
Nov 2020

... and underestimated the total vote count. Otherwise, they would have replicated the WI, MI, and PA paper-thin margins of victory for Trump in 2016. They likely introduced some kind of programming commands to flip a certain number of votes, but underestimated the TOTAL votes, including the huge turnout for Dems. The pre-election polls were heavily favoring Biden, but nearly uniformally decreased that margin on election day itself. But it wasn't enough to flip for Trump.

Just a wild, unverified guess...

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
5. yeah...they already had the goods
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:59 PM
Nov 2020

no expiration date. It will be interesting to see which states they actually want a recount in. Be nice if every state had an independent audit of the vote.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
3. I seriously doubt that, especially on a national level.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:15 PM
Nov 2020

That's like us denying truth in the media too.

The CNN exit poll included absentee and early voters too, and the popular vote margin will likely come close to matching it like it did for Hillary Clinton last time.

Conspiracy ideas aren't going to help us.

There's just a LOT of white evangelical voters who keep voting for Republicans in this country, voting at a higher rate than other groups and overwhelmingly for the bad guys.

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
4. Not how hacking works. It's always focused and local
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:53 PM
Nov 2020

If you wanted to investigate you would start with the easily hackable ES&S machines in Miami-Dade and the Rio Grande Valley in Texas. Remember, Trump's cover story this time was strength among latinos...

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