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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump would've given the same speech even if it was a blowout
Biden could have been on track to win 500 EV. Same speech. He was never going to concede gracefully.
Its all bluster.
He cant go directly to SCOTUS. They would hear an appeal from a state court or lower federal court.
Theres no legal comparison to be made to 2000, because 2000 was about stopping a recount. Trump wants to not count votes at all. No court, not even this SCOTUS, is going to do that. You can do some gymnastics to justify stopping a recount because the votes have already been counted so this is a waste of time; there is no way to justify we shouldnt count legitimate ballots at all.
Trump is going to lose. He wont go quietly, everyone knew that, but he will go because thats just how it is.
Then hell spend the next 4 years holding more rallies and probably run in 2024. He wont win the GOP primary, though, so hell run third-party and split the vote. Biden (or Harris if he only serves one term) wins bigger next time.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,686 posts)and this wouldn't be one of them. He would have to apply for an injunction to a federal district court - several of them, actually, which would deny the injunction so fast his head would spin, and then he'd have to follow the appellate process to get to the Supreme Court - if it got that far. Bush v. Gore, as you point out, had to do with stopping a recount, not an initial vote, and it was on an appeal from the Florida Supreme Court, not taken up in the first instance by the US Supreme Court, as it could not have been. And even this Supreme Court has made it pretty clear so far that they are not inclined to interfere with states' voting procedures, in accordance with the Constitution. His Lardship will be disappointed when "his" justices don't give him what he wants.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Siding against Trump:
Roberts
Gorsuch
Breyer
Sotomayor
Kagen
Siding with Trump:
Thomas
Alito
Barrett
Boof Boy
Should be 9-0 but it wont be.
Although I dont think theyll even hear a case.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,686 posts)because the Constitution is quite clear about states running their own elections. Constitutionally, the legislature of each state determines how its electors are chosen; Art. II, Sec. 1, Clause 2 states that each state shall appoint electors "in such Manner as the Legislature Thereof May Direct." So if a state decides to choose its electors based on a popular vote in which voters can cast ballots by mail which must be counted if received by a date designated by the state legislature, I should think the originalists would be cool with that.