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intrepidity

(7,337 posts)
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 11:22 PM Nov 2020

Sorry, remind me again: Why do we trust the counting?

Are we assuming that the Russians have not had their fingers in the tabulation machinery? That, in spite of our tremendous *zero* efforts to thwart foreign interference, all those bad actors just decided to step back?

Like, really?

When polling is really, really, really off, surely the usual suspects come to mind.

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Sorry, remind me again: Why do we trust the counting? (Original Post) intrepidity Nov 2020 OP
Because, as of now, we have no evidence of any tampering... regnaD kciN Nov 2020 #1
Well... intrepidity Nov 2020 #5
I trust counting SoCalNative Nov 2020 #2
the only poll that matters is actual votes AlexSFCA Nov 2020 #3
Exactly! Iwasthere Nov 2020 #4
In Texas we have paper backup ballots. herding cats Nov 2020 #6
It is illegal for human beings to see and count ballots in Florida questionseverything Nov 2020 #7
Because once we stop trusting the counting, marybourg Nov 2020 #8
It seems Russia make have hacked us again. ElementaryPenguin Nov 2020 #9
We need to audit a sampling of the paper ballots AmBlue Nov 2020 #10

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
3. the only poll that matters is actual votes
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 11:24 PM
Nov 2020

everything else is noise. Many people would not admit supporting trump so some polls are way off.

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
6. In Texas we have paper backup ballots.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 11:25 PM
Nov 2020

Tell me what you're worried about and where your concerns are focused.

questionseverything

(9,661 posts)
7. It is illegal for human beings to see and count ballots in Florida
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 11:26 PM
Nov 2020

If the counting is on the up and up,why can’t we see it?

AmBlue

(3,117 posts)
10. We need to audit a sampling of the paper ballots
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 11:39 PM
Nov 2020

...and compare the counts to what the scanners are counting, to verify the software is doing it's job accurately!!

There is too much room for hackery. Right now, the counting is being done by proprietary software, in the dark bowels of computers. So, you are exactly right-- we need to verify the accuracy of the tallies.

We fought hard to get rid of touchscreen voting machines. But we are not getting the full benefit of paper ballots if we cannot audit them. Or watch them be counted.

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