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Thanks a lot protesters (Original Post) Jose Garcia Nov 2020 OP
Oh fck that shit! mcar Nov 2020 #1
I agree with you PirateRo Nov 2020 #3
THANK YOU! Just_Vote_Dem Nov 2020 #4
Yeah, the Che shit is dumb Codeine Nov 2020 #5
+1 OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #9
How is holding a Che Guevara sign sleroy49 Nov 2020 #10
1 sign cost us Florida? mcar Nov 2020 #15
I'm not saying a sign cost us Florida, sleroy49 Nov 2020 #16
Oh, but 1 Che sign mcar Nov 2020 #17
No. If you support Che Guevara that is not positive. Period. sleroy49 Nov 2020 #18
1 sign. Period. mcar Nov 2020 #19
I didn't damn a movement and neither did the OP. sleroy49 Nov 2020 #22
Don't Turn On Each Other Aepps22 Nov 2020 #2
So blaming minorities? Some things never change. nt zackymilly Nov 2020 #6
Don't even go there Sunsky Nov 2020 #7
Those Cubans in Florida were going to vote republican Jspur Nov 2020 #8
According to NY Times, cuban neighborhoods are voting 14% more Republican than in 2016 Klaralven Nov 2020 #12
That is actually a shift of about 28 points. StevieM Nov 2020 #21
No, its a shift of 14 points from voting 45% R in 2016 to 59% R in 2020. Klaralven Nov 2020 #25
Let me explain what I mean. StevieM Nov 2020 #26
FL Dems have a zillion excuses for My Pet Orangutan Nov 2020 #11
lmaoooooo WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #13
How is it that Florida went to Obama twice? Crunchy Frog Nov 2020 #14
Trashing thread JonLP24 Nov 2020 #20
Same. Wednesdays Nov 2020 #24
What horseshit. If no one protested, there were no BLM if we offered to pay cops double Cubans would Autumn Nov 2020 #23

mcar

(42,708 posts)
1. Oh fck that shit!
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 09:54 PM
Nov 2020

How about we blame the racists and the dictator lovers instead of slamming people protesting for positive change?

OAITW r.2.0

(25,298 posts)
9. +1
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 09:58 PM
Nov 2020

What a BS OP. How about blaming "Democrats are socialist commies" that have been flooding the Cuban radio networks in Miami? They are voting against there best interests.

mcar

(42,708 posts)
15. 1 sign cost us Florida?
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 10:08 PM
Nov 2020

Really? People are more interested in voting for a dictator cuz 1 Che sign?

sleroy49

(37 posts)
16. I'm not saying a sign cost us Florida,
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 10:11 PM
Nov 2020

I just can't stand people holding Che up on a pedestal. It's the same level of ignorance as a Trump lover.

sleroy49

(37 posts)
22. I didn't damn a movement and neither did the OP.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 10:27 PM
Nov 2020

You're blind if you dismiss the possibility it had an impact. Let me make it simple. Cuban Americans hate Che Guevara. BLM protester thinks Che is great and holds a Che sign. Cuban American(s) see BLM protestor hold a Che sign and connects BLM with Che (whom they hate). I understand that BLM doesn't support Che (or at least I hope that's true), but not everyone gets that. Perception has an impact. That is human nature

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
7. Don't even go there
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 09:57 PM
Nov 2020

We are not going to play one race against another. BLM is a legitimate movement, fighting for the rights of black people. DU is depressing tonight.

StevieM

(10,503 posts)
21. That is actually a shift of about 28 points.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 10:25 PM
Nov 2020

Which is pretty incredible.

But I think we have enough going for us in other states to win the election.

We will have to rebuild among Cuban-Americans in 2024. In the meantime, let's not blame protesters against injustice for any challenges we have faced.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
25. No, its a shift of 14 points from voting 45% R in 2016 to 59% R in 2020.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 10:35 PM
Nov 2020
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/forecast-president.html

I don't blame protesters, but obstructing travel, rioting, looting, destroying vehicles and burning buildings is not the way to win hearts and minds of the people.

StevieM

(10,503 posts)
26. Let me explain what I mean.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 10:39 PM
Nov 2020

If HRC beat Trump 55/45 then that is a 10 point win for the Democrats. If Trump beats Biden 59/41 then that is an 18 point win for the Republicans. In other words we went from winning by 10 to losing by 18, so that is a 28 point shift.

Obviously those numbers are not exact, because there are 3rd party voters, and so the figures should not add up to 100 percent. That is why I said "about" 28 points.

My Pet Orangutan

(9,448 posts)
11. FL Dems have a zillion excuses for
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 10:00 PM
Nov 2020

the time, money, blood sweat and tears they have burned through, with nothing to show for it.

How about this? Give them less than 25% of the money next time round, and see if they can do worse.

Autumn

(45,168 posts)
23. What horseshit. If no one protested, there were no BLM if we offered to pay cops double Cubans would
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 10:30 PM
Nov 2020

still have voted for Trump.

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