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Imallin4Joe

(758 posts)
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 11:01 AM Oct 2020

Ask anyone but especially Trump elderly supporters..

What is your financial plan if you live to be 100?

Is Social Security important? Will you be reliant/dependent on SS, especially long into your retirement years when you hit 80, 90+?

Will Social Security be an important part of your retirement income and financial security?

Will you rely on SS to keep a roof over your head?

Again, is Social Security an important lifeline for retirement security?

Donald Trump WILL bankrupt Social Security by 2023.

Ask them..
Are you going to allow Trump to bankrupt and attempt to kill one of human history's most successful social programs that has proven to be absolutely vital to the security of senior citizens?

What is your plan if Trump bankrupts Social Security? When you're 90 and health is starting to fail, will you be forced to go back to work? By the time you're 75 Social Security will be dying under Trump.
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The reason I wrote this rant...
I recently asked my Trump loving mother these questions. She is 75. I asked her to open her eyes and research this. She did and got back to me. She sounded deflated at first, on the phone. Mom researched the links that I asked her to check out, including Biden's official website, CBO-congressional budget office etc..

I was shocked by what she said next. "I can't believe that fucking asshole will do that to SS. I'm switching to voting for Biden."

Mom rarely uses foul language. I was shocked. Not at the language but by the fact that I witnessed someone change their politics. Just by having their eyes opened.

Trump is like a flood of poisoned water. He is turning off his supporters every day. Many are on the edge of supporting him. Aging Trump supporters can be turned into Biden voters just by opening their eyes with facts. Swing voters will very likely sway toward Biden if their eyes are opened.

Social Security is the flag to rally under. Seniors are usually the most reliable voting block as far as turnout. SS is important to them.

Call on seniors to vote to protect Social Security by voting for Biden. Trust me, they listen.

Biden has a solid plan to save Social Security.

As an aging, crusty old vet myself,
I will vote for retirement security by voting for Biden and Dems.
(I dropped my mail-in vote into the post office drop slot yesterday.)

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Imallin4Joe

(758 posts)
5. Iowa is a must-win for Biden and Dems..
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 12:45 PM
Oct 2020

This issue is a #1 priority for Dems in Iowa.

Social Security could decide Iowa and the electoral college for Biden.

StClone

(11,683 posts)
2. I have asked this repeatedly
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 11:12 AM
Oct 2020

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Why are we not always screaming THEY ARE TAKING YOUR FUTURE-YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY-AWAY! (Evident what they did to the USPS).

They have a long-term plan to defund and abscond with he SS. NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN!

They hate Science, but use Darwin to invoke survival of the the most evil, lying, cheating and stealing, and claim those who are left in a predatory society are the real winners (Evident Orangetan).

Imallin4Joe

(758 posts)
6. Please, keep asking..
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 01:05 PM
Oct 2020

keep screaming it. You have a wonderful message that will get through to at least some of them.

Remember, to win swing states we only need to sway a small % of votes.

Walleye

(31,022 posts)
3. The Republicans have been against Social Security and Medicare from the start.
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 11:19 AM
Oct 2020

They probably admit that in their private meetings. And they’ve done everything they can to weaken both of them every chance they get. That’s just fact.

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
4. Most elderly Trump supporters simply refuse to believe
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 11:19 AM
Oct 2020

that they'll ever lose SS benefits or Medicare. I think your mother is the exception rather than the rule. Fortunately, we don't need all of the seniors to vote for Biden. Trump can't win unless he gets the majority of seniors' votes again, the way he did in 2016. Even if they split 50-50 Trump is gone.

Some elderly Trump supporters do believe younger people will never receive SS benefits and Medicare, and they think that's just fucking dandy.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
7. I'm flabbergasted the Biden ads on this have been so weak and seldom
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 01:22 PM
Oct 2020

They should be everywhere, and hammer the 2023 reality in the opening seconds.

Biden trails 61-39 among seniors in Texas, according to the recent Texas Politics Project survey. Nobody can convince me it would be anywhere near that number if they understood the social security reality.

My 78 year old aunt switched from Obama to Trump. For 3+ years she championed Trump again. I assumed it was a lost cause. Not until I detailed the social security aspect a month ago did she start to consider Biden. Then Trump's performance in the debate shifted her across the line. She has already voted absentee for Biden, and was very excited when I told her that Lebron James is campaigning for Biden.

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