Tue Oct 13, 2020, 07:52 AM

I feel like I'm banging my head against the wall in futility

Bringing this subject up, science has been solidly predicting disaster for over 50 years now. Even mentioning we must make massive changes in the way we all get around brings scoffs of childish idiocy especially from those still driving their huge gashogs.
It 's way past time it hit major media outlets.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/13/world/un-natural-disasters-climate-intl-hnk/index.html?utm_term=16025846916702ff95c13c1fa&utm_source=Five+Things+for+Tuesday%2C+October+13%2C+2020&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=250330_1602584691672&bt_ee=8NxMH3izUdK5SEBPpXs9EU3jGRy3uVhyFZX8XpZajHm41zxVoSfCtBtPXkgNaif5&bt_ts=1602584691672

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I feel like I'm banging my head against the wall in futility (Original post)	lambchopp59	Oct 2020	OP
Welcome to my world . . .	hatrack	Oct 2020	#1
You were	Delphinus	Oct 2020	#4
Its not easy being smart when you can see what's coming down the pike.	BlancheSplanchnik	Oct 2020	#2
Agreed.	Delphinus	Oct 2020	#3
This message was self-deleted by its author	Freelancer	Oct 2020	#5
The problem is unchecked population growth, forcing people to live in dangerous places.	Towlie	Oct 2020	#10
This message was self-deleted by its author	Freelancer	Oct 2020	#6
They found out...	Newest Reality	Oct 2020	#7
This message was self-deleted by its author	Freelancer	Oct 2020	#8
Oh, I bet we will.	Newest Reality	Oct 2020	#9

Response to lambchopp59 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2020, 08:10 AM

hatrack (57,236 posts)

1. Welcome to my world . . .

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Response to hatrack (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 13, 2020, 08:32 AM

Delphinus (10,560 posts)

4. You were

the first person I thought of when I read this.

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Response to lambchopp59 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2020, 08:23 AM

BlancheSplanchnik (20,219 posts)

2. Its not easy being smart when you can see what's coming down the pike.

Sometimes I wish I were blissfully ignorant...I might sleep better.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 13, 2020, 08:31 AM

Delphinus (10,560 posts)

3. Agreed.

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Response to Freelancer (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 13, 2020, 10:06 AM

Towlie (5,188 posts)

10. The problem is unchecked population growth, forcing people to live in dangerous places.

The Center for Research on the Epidemiology of Disasters' Emergency Events Database characterizes a natural disaster as having at least 10 or more people reported killed, 100 or more people reported affected, declaration of a state of emergency, or a call for international assistance.

So in general, many natural disasters wouldn't be natural disasters if the affected areas weren't so heavily populated, and if the people who did live there were affluent enough to better protect themselves. And, of course, unchecked population growth is also the fundamental cause of climate change.

"The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute that it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive, many others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, others are slowly being devoured from within by rasping parasites, thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst, and disease. It must be so. If there ever is a time of plenty, this very fact will automatically lead to an increase in the population until the natural state of starvation and misery is restored." ― Richard Dawkins, River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life

This principle applies to the human species as well as other animals. If only human reproduction (rather than prevention of reproduction) somehow required an active choice, the human population could be gradually reduced to a level this planet can comfortably support.

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Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:12 AM

Newest Reality (12,712 posts)

7. They found out...

They found out recently that the radiation levels on the moon are so high that humans could only stay on the surface for up to two-months total, including the amount of radiation for the trip there and back.

After that, the levels start doing some damage because they are significant.

That seems to blow that idea.

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Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:20 AM

Newest Reality (12,712 posts)

9. Oh, I bet we will.

It is just about length of stays.

Perhaps some form of shielding will be possible, but I haven't heard anything about that as a solution yet.

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