FOUND VOTER FRAUD!! BALLOTS DESTROYED!!

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NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — A postal employee in New Jersey dumped more than 1,800 pieces of mail, federal prosecutors said Wednesday.

Nicholas Beauchene, 26, of Kearny, faced arraignment later in the day on charges of delay, secretion or detention of mail and obstruction of mail. It was not known if he had retained a lawyer.

The mail included 99 ballots for the upcoming election, and more than 600 pieces of first class mail.

The approximately 1,875 pieces of discarded mail was recovered from trash dumpsters in North Arlington and West Orange on Oct. 2, and Oct. 5., prosecutors said. It had been scheduled to be delivered to addresses on certain postal routes in Orange and West Orange.


https://apnews.com/article/newark-new-jersey-archive-elections-7afeefdd76ca77120576946fc0204df8

[Eyeball_Kid]

1. The AP item doesn't say that ballots were destroyed, only that they were "dumped." n/t

[33taw]

2. How do they know there were 99 ballots.

[poli-junkie]

3. Isn't it called Election Fraud (not voter fraud)?

[pat_k]

5. Absolutely!! We've GOT to get this right.

Voter Fraud -- an voter doing something fraudulent. So negligible not worth wasting time looking for.

Election Fraud -- action that corrupts the outcome through systematic or individual action (i.e., everything the republicans are doing to prevent votes being cast or counted from Democratic strongholds).

[brush]

10. Is this even election fraud? Sounds more like a malingering postman who found a way...

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to get out of doing his job and just trashed his whole load, which included first class mail as well as some ballots. in dumpsters.

He of course needs to fired and prosecuted.

[pat_k]

18. True. But a consequence corrupts the election.

We could write off as felony mail theft (he stole and dumped mail), but the fact there were ballots in the mix makes it a double crime (mail theft and electoral fraud).

[MissMillie]

12. That was exactly my thought....

the only person committing a crime here isn't doing it by VOTING.

[pat_k]

4. Orange 72% Black, 13% White, 1.5% Native American, the rest "other"

Any bets on where the vast majority of the mail was going?

Orange, NJ

The racial makeup of the township was 12.80% (3,857) White, 71.83% (21,645) Black or African American, 0.57% (173) Native American, 1.51% (455) Asian, 0.02% (6) Pacific Islander, 9.95% (2,999) from other races, and 3.32% (999) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 21.67% (6,531) of the population.

West Orange

The racial makeup of the township was 67.6% White, 17.5% African American, 0.14% Native American, 8.09% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 3.52% from other races, and 3.20% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 10.04% of the population.

[greenjar_01]

6. What are you doing?

[H2O Man]

7. +1

[Le Roi de Pot]

8. my nightmare is that Ballot collection boxes will be targeted for Vandalism by white militias -- it

is such a soft target.

While mail in balloting is safe and a good way to vote - it is only so because we are a civilized civic minded country that mostly follows democratic norms.


If white militias feel threatened by democracy - there is no saying what they will do. Box stuffing, vandalism , destruction etc could all become tools for them to keep power. Trump is giving them Ideas and I am sure papa Putin and KGB will provide dozens more along with intel on which areas to target.

[Kingofalldems]

9. It doesn't say 'voter fraud' in the article headline.

Looks like something you inserted. Why?

[The Magistrate]

11. The Courteous Presumption, Sir

Is an attempt at sarcasm through hyperbolic expression of something mundane. It is not clear that presumption holds, though....

[Kingofalldems]

13. This was a letter carrier

(and probably a temp) not wanting to deliver his route so he tossed the mail.

[The Magistrate]

14. I Agree, Sir --- It Is Not So Infrequent As People Might Suppose

It is the sort of thing deliberately misinterpreted on the right at present, though, and the headline could be an effort at mocking this.

[sl8]

17. I think you're on to something.

If it was intended as sarcastic commentary, though, it would have worked better if it were clearly an added comment. By using it as a substitute headline/title, I think it confuses the issue.

[Silent3]

15. I think the ALL CAPS, double-double-exclamation mark title...

...should be taken as a hint that the poster is being sarcastic, and imitating Republican frenzy over the issue.

[Silent3]

16. They've got 99 ballots...

...and mine ain't one of them!

[rockfordfile]

19. It seems perhaps they're doing this in other places?

[Bobstandard]

20. Poster loves trollish headlines

Look at his other posts. A pattern emerges

[Awsi Dooger]

22. I can't believe that point wasn't made until post #20

Easy handicapping whenever I see that user name...er numbers

[lettucebe]

21. That's not voter fraud -- it's Tampering with the US Mail, a felony, but has zero to do with voting