I believe it's a lie

[mac2766]

He's lying. I don't believe for a second that he has been infected with the virus. It's a political ploy. He lies so often and about so many things that I can't believe that he's telling the truth about this.

[beachbumbob]

1. totally disagree as there is NO upside to pretending to have COVID for trump

[lagomorph777]

12. Trump will pay a huge political price for getting COVID.

He only revealed it after exhausting all other options.

MAGATS like dictators who don't get sick.

[Mike 03]

13. +1

This theory is not believable on any level, for many reasons, but one of the most obvious is that the people he most needs right now are sidelined with the virus or in quarantine as a result of potential exposure.

And now this morning, William Barr is in quarantine.

It is a cliche, but not true, that "all publicity is good publicity." Some publicity is terrible publicity.

[durablend]

14. "I GOT IT AND BEAT IT--NOT THAT SERIOUS!!!!"

His MAGAt followers will eat it up.

[beachbumbob]

17. he simply can not win with depending on just his MAGA followers, that is clear as day

[BannonsLiver]

24. And what will everyone else think?

Did that come up in the calculus at all or are they the only people voting in the election?

[hlthe2b]

2. You would have to believe all those military doctors are willing to risk their licenses and even

court-martial to participate in such a scheme and that, among the enormous amount of additional HCWs (nurses, lab techs, others),--not one of them would blow the whistle.

That's one hell of a conspiracy with one hell of a lot of personal risk for all involved.


Not to mention that the very fact he contracted COVID-19 has underscored his months of irresponsible and callous behavior.

[underpants]

5. Exactly. He has it. He is just trying to do what he's done from day one

Diminish it. Put a positive spin on it. It’s no big deal. It will go away.

Oh and he’s Mr. Mighty Strong Man

[Mike 03]

8. Yes, he always tries to override reality.

"The phone call was perfect."
"The virus will just go away."
"The Russia thing is a hoax."
"The tax return stories are FAKE NEWS."
"In Syria, we get the oil."

This is absolutely in character.

[njhoneybadger]

18. This +1

[lame54]

31. I do believe Trump has it but...

The drs. are lying to us daily

[hlthe2b]

32. That wasn't the point. Military chain of command can prevent them from speaking candidly. Not lie

about whether or not the President is infected at all. While I believe that lying by omission is still lying, that is overwhelmingly different than lying about a patient's diagnosis or claiming treatments they did not actually receive.

Conley is careful to lie only by omission. He will still pay price for that and in his credibility from now well into the future. He will not, however risk court-martial or loss of medical license. Very different.

[lame54]

33. That doesn't help me...

I, or anybody else, have no fucking clue as to what is really going on
Their lies (or omissions if you prefer) are fueling these doubts about the whole thing

They've brought it on themselves

The whole country is in the datk because of their "omissions"

[hlthe2b]

34. The OP was questioning whether Trump actually has COVID-19 or not. That is what my post addresses.

Not whether or not Conley is a cowardly a'hole or not (he is).

[lame54]

35. You claim the drs. aren't lying...

I say they are and adding to the confusion hence people are questioning the whole thing

I believe Trump has it but I'm not gonna judge those who question it

That one truth in the huge pile of lies is like Horton looking for the single clover

[hlthe2b]

37. I said twice that lying by omission is still lying. I guess you don't read my replies?

lame54, please don't accuse me of things that I absolutely did not say or do. This isn't the first time and I am at a loss to know why.

[Claustrum]

3. Sure. You think someone can keep Trump away from twitter for more than a few hours lol

[Whiskeytide]

4. The question for any conspiracy theory is always ...

... “How many people have to be in on it?”

The trip to WRH pretty much eliminates any possibility it’s not true. Too many people.

And, if this bunch were going to fake it, it would be some kind of silly, cheap theater show where only his personal Dr. would confirm the diagnosis and he’d be completely asymptomatic, crowing about how he’s so perfect and tough.

[Mike 03]

9. There's also the problem of so many other people in his orbit

testing positive, including many top people in his own campaign!

Are all those people in on the conspiracy?

[Mike 03]

6. What did he get out of it?

The entire country is talking about the ONE THING he didn't want anybody to talk about?

He looks like a first class idiot, catching a virus he called a Democratic hoax.

How do you explain the fact that a dozen people close to him are now also sick? (Those are only the ones we know about.)

Why is the White House in meltdown mode, with sick and furious staff members?

Why did the White House CRUSH Mark Meadows for saying the president was sicker than we thought he was, when that feeds their very narrative?

Let's see how this week goes for him. I don't think he's going to feel very well, and the harder he pushes to get back to normal, the worse it will get and the more obvious it will be.

[jcgoldie]

7. "The entire country is talking about the ONE THING "

...HIM.

Thats what he got out of it and thats the extent of his political strategy... ALWAYS.

[LisaL]

10. The whole country was talking about him before he got covid.

He didn't need to fake covid for that.

[durablend]

16. I'll go out on a limb

If he does get out of the hospital, he'll pull some stupid stunt (acting nuts from the WH balcony?) right at the time of Joe's town hall meeting so the media focuses on *him* instead.

I put *nothing* past him.

[Wicked Blue]

11. At this point I think it's a hoax too

He just does not seem sick enough. If he could walk to the helicopter on the way into the hospital, and go for an SUV ride to see his thugs, I find it hard to believe that he is genuinely ill. And they are talking about discharging him today.

This orange traitor is a known phony and a liar. He lies as easily as he breathes. He threatens and intimidates everyone around him into going along with what he wants. I don't know if there is anyone around him who dares to stand up to him.

Over the years I've read about mobster after mobster who suddenly became "terminally ill" just before being tried for his crimes.

I know I'm not making a good argument for this. I'm no good at debating. All I can say is that I woke up this morning and decided that he is probably faking it.

[LisaL]

15. He doesn't seem sick enough for what?

Some people barely have any symptoms, or remain asymptomatic.
Even old ones.
He also got several treatments early one, designed to keep the virus from proliferating.

[budkin]

21. He's being propped up by steroids

And we’ve only seen him in these brief edited moments.

[BannonsLiver]

23. You're right. You're not making a good argument for it.

Neither is the OP, who, like you, hasn’t seemed to notice or comprehend that this has been a catastrophe for him politically.

[Talitha]

30. JMHO, but I became suspicious as soon as he said he had it.

Because that's not like him. It's not something he would do. He would never admit to getting it. It would mean he's weak. It would mean science was right and he was wrong. He'd lie and say it was something else.

As far as all of the Repugs saying they also have it, remember - they guzzled the orange koolaid a long time ago and are in his barrell of shit up to their eyeballs. So if he tells them they have it, they'll fall into line and say they do.

[dixiechiken1]

19. 50/50 chance, IMO.

Everything that has transpired since Friday doesn't add up. Not even a little bit.

I remain skeptical.

[budkin]

20. You're wrong

This is a complete and total disaster for him.

[BannonsLiver]

22. God, this hot take is so last week.

[brush]

25. There's no advantage for him to get what he's pooh-poohed for montns and...

ridiculed mask wearing and social distancing. Him having contracted the virus just shows how absolutely wrong he was.

[mtnsnake]

26. I wouldn't at all be surprised

[Blecht]

27. Anything is possible

But it'd be stupid to latch onto any single possibility. They all lie all the time, which makes makes the odds choosing the correct "truth" infinitesimally small.

I think all we can do is focus on what we can do to get as many people to vote for Joe Biden as we can.

[bluestarone]

28. Gotta say here THIS was my first thought, BUT NO WAY!

He fucking does NOT wear a mask and gets the BEST TREATMENT anyone would get. He should have been DENIED treatment because of HIS choice not to wear a mask. He HAD it and he could still get sicker. FUCK HIM!

[in2herbs]

29. IMO trump likely contacted COVID however is that what he's been hospitalilzed for? The remdesivir

cocktail he's being treated with is also a treatment for detox due to substance abuse. I can't believe that if he is being treated for COVID that the pharmaceutical company would be in favor of him being released even for a limo ride before the treatment regimen is completed. After all, what would it do to their stock prices if POTUS died while being treated with their product? This is another scenario: trump OD'd on his adderall after the debate, his system needed emergency medical support and a detox. Because trump owns stock in the pharmaceutical company and remdesivir his OD can be covered up with a COVID diagnosis, he'll miraculously heal, everyone with COVID will want the treatment, the stock prices will soar, and trump has made the $421 million he owes to others.

I won't be satisfied that what we are seeing isn't a hoax until I see his COVID test results.

(Also posted on another thread.)

[LisaL]

36. What in the world?

remdesivir is anti viral. It's not used for drug detox.