Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
95 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Dr. Sanjay Gupta of CNN just said unequivocally, "The president is sicker than they are telling us." (Original Post) Earthshine2 Oct 2020 OP
Like shit he's going to be released to go back to the WH tomorrow... TruckFump Oct 2020 #1
think of Mailordia trying to fight back the grin when they hand her that flag. :) brewens Oct 2020 #3
Think of how much the publishing industry will pay her to write a tell-all book. Earthshine2 Oct 2020 #7
And if it's after he dies, would she still be bound by some non disclosure agreement? calimary Oct 2020 #15
Marla already told a story about him wnylib Oct 2020 #33
I'm pretty sure that was Ivana. HoosierDebbie Oct 2020 #40
Oops. I think you're right. So hard to keep track of wnylib Oct 2020 #41
Yeah. It WAS Ivana. calimary Oct 2020 #91
Now that we know he is broke treestar Oct 2020 #56
The publisher will have to hire someone generalbetrayus Oct 2020 #60
First, I really like that nickname Fritz Walter Oct 2020 #29
That's one she won't be able to plagiarize wnylib Oct 2020 #39
It starts with, "I come to Amereeca weeth no thing but perfect breasts and fine pussy brewens Oct 2020 #71
Actually, I think you've given us the COLGATE4 Oct 2020 #81
She could wait for Marla to write one LoveMyCali Oct 2020 #52
Mailorder Mel, Duchess of Plastic, member of Ye Olde Order of the Orange Celerity Oct 2020 #83
But then sobbing uncontrollably when she finds out there's nothing left in their bank account & Illumination Oct 2020 #45
Do presidents that never served in the military get/deserve a flag? csziggy Oct 2020 #55
No he certainly does not deserve a flag or any other honor. sarge43 Oct 2020 #64
... AdamGG Oct 2020 #80
OK, he can have that flag csziggy Oct 2020 #88
...Like she just won the lottery! lastlib Oct 2020 #72
LOL, "I-OWE-A" isn't just a state anymore! Totally Tunsie Oct 2020 #76
Don't be so sure about that misanthrope Oct 2020 #82
I love that! "Mailordia"! calimary Oct 2020 #92
usually when I think I came up with a good one, I look online and someone beat me to it. brewens Oct 2020 #93
Yours is completely original (she said, with a touch of envy)! calimary Oct 2020 #95
He waited to announce he's sick until after the stock market closed gollygee Oct 2020 #18
IMO, good observation. TruckFump Oct 2020 #21
I never understood why government waited until Friday to announce a lot of big news. C Moon Oct 2020 #67
Wrong Flag Traildogbob Oct 2020 #26
Good point! TruckFump Oct 2020 #31
Weird that they would set themselves up for more SayItLoud Oct 2020 #42
IMO, the docs are giving more of POLITICAL rather than MEDICAL messages. TruckFump Oct 2020 #44
I read where Dr Conley has promoted Hydroxychloroquine. vapor2 Oct 2020 #53
This was my thought. BadgerMom Oct 2020 #61
They are trying to prop him up pandr32 Oct 2020 #2
What I gained from this is that President Biden needs to get that hospital suite jimfields33 Oct 2020 #4
Say what? Kingofalldems Oct 2020 #12
Updated? Overhaul? generalbetrayus Oct 2020 #62
What for? pandr32 Oct 2020 #84
Take a look at the pictures jimfields33 Oct 2020 #86
His cult believes every word of it. Boomerproud Oct 2020 #13
They do pandr32 Oct 2020 #85
Humpty Trumpty had a... Newest Reality Oct 2020 #5
He speculating. He isn't trumps doctor. He has limited information trump has the most cutting edge mucifer Oct 2020 #6
He may have some off-the-record inside information. I would be very Tanuki Oct 2020 #9
He is probably basing his opinion on the protocol for the meds he has been given. 58Sunliner Oct 2020 #10
Doctors don't always use protocol especially in a case like this mucifer Oct 2020 #11
They do if the drug can do damage if administered too early. Did you read the article? Quixote1818 Oct 2020 #28
He did require supplemental oxygen. n/t Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #65
Doctors have to justify their drug use-even with covid. 58Sunliner Oct 2020 #32
Exactly as dexamethasone suppresses the immune system. If Trump takes a turn for the worst Quixote1818 Oct 2020 #68
Clorex and Lysol and a light blub enema are next.... Historic NY Oct 2020 #73
Some things are VERY obvious to people in the medical field, Hortensis Oct 2020 #36
Can't Wait for Movie! Stallion Oct 2020 #8
It's already been released years ago, in 1989: George II Oct 2020 #22
Others in the press pool are mirroring the same message, things aren't adding up ffr Oct 2020 #14
If he cannot be photo'd sitting up in a chair, possibly speaking, they need to put Pence in NightWatcher Oct 2020 #16
Sorry but USA looks weak with trump on the chair, and even weaker with Pence Escurumbele Oct 2020 #20
Move them out of the WH so a HAZMAT team wnylib Oct 2020 #46
I'm sure Joe and Jill will make sure the place is cleaned up. panader0 Oct 2020 #74
Pretty Rotten When Even The Doctors Are Liars n/t DallasNE Oct 2020 #17
Weekend at Bernie's because it's 2020. sarcasmo Oct 2020 #19
The optics, the optics. How long can they prop him up? BarbD Oct 2020 #27
They propped up Ronnie for 8 years. wnylib Oct 2020 #48
Wait a minute Gymbo Oct 2020 #23
Through "immaculate deception"! George II Oct 2020 #24
I bet he is insisting on being released. Peregrine Took Oct 2020 #30
Because the White House has its own doctors and nurses on staff and and a hospital-like setting Liberty Belle Oct 2020 #37
I'm betting that they do not want to release him, wnylib Oct 2020 #50
You don't relapse if you aren't over it in the first place. Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #66
Meriam Webster on relapse wnylib Oct 2020 #89
If that's the definition you want to hang on to - Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #90
Right, it's not like he would really be going "home." Lasher Oct 2020 #54
He probably is both sicker than they say,but has a much better chance at recovery than most andym Oct 2020 #25
But it won't be a total recovery. Earthshine2 Oct 2020 #34
but I bet bdamomma Oct 2020 #69
I think so too. cwydro Oct 2020 #35
Speaking as a hypochondriac -- I think Gupta wrong crimycarny Oct 2020 #38
I think both you and Gupta are correct. Both of your educated opinions are completely compatible. Earthshine2 Oct 2020 #43
My only solace is this will take a toll regardless of science crimycarny Oct 2020 #47
Agree, and he and his rich friends pay no taxes radius777 Oct 2020 #70
"I don't think it's wrong to feel satisfaction if Trump suffers long term effects from this. " Earthshine2 Oct 2020 #87
Trump is suffering? That's Karma in action! Absolutely heaven sent!... Illumination Oct 2020 #49
Regeneron has a less than stellar history. Jon King Oct 2020 #51
Very enlightening crimycarny Oct 2020 #58
Interesting, so the worst is yet to come? flamingdem Oct 2020 #63
People like you are one of the reasons I love DU. panader0 Oct 2020 #75
K&R! SheltieLover Oct 2020 #57
They're obviously treating him much more aggressively than most of us would BusyBeingBest Oct 2020 #59
The silly photo op told the tale Warpy Oct 2020 #77
That was obvious from the video Twitler released kwijybo Oct 2020 #78
Dr Conley is gaslighting us. He said trump is on remdesivir and has had 2 treatments thus far. iluvtennis Oct 2020 #79
One can only hope. nt tblue37 Oct 2020 #94

Earthshine2

(3,587 posts)
7. Think of how much the publishing industry will pay her to write a tell-all book.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:36 PM
Oct 2020

She'll get more from that than Donald's financially underwater estate.

calimary

(80,119 posts)
15. And if it's after he dies, would she still be bound by some non disclosure agreement?
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:58 PM
Oct 2020

I bet we might finally hear from the exiled Marla Maples at such a time, too.

I bet Marla has a story to tell, also.

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
33. Marla already told a story about him
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:11 PM
Oct 2020

in her divorce filing, about how he beat and raped her because she had recommeded the person who botched a hair transplant job on him. Then she retracted it and I can only imagine what threats he used to accomplish that.

Maybe she will un-retract it.

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
41. Oops. I think you're right. So hard to keep track of
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:21 PM
Oct 2020

his exes - the wives, mistresses, hired "companions."

calimary

(80,119 posts)
91. Yeah. It WAS Ivana.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 11:19 AM
Oct 2020

And she's been muzzled, too.

Can't wait til they finally speak. Just guessing that if/when he eventually passes, that would release them from non-disclosure "agreements" that they were probably forced to sign or face a LOT of grief, legal, financial, AND otherwise.

Fritz Walter

(4,268 posts)
29. First, I really like that nickname
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:08 PM
Oct 2020
Stealing it!
Second, I think that grin will drop like a stone through a wet paper bag when she meets with the executor of his will. The estate -- what's left of it -- will be as miniscule as his heart. Then, she'll find out that his "adult" children will get the lion's share of any remaining assets.

Maybe she could write a tell-all book.
No, wait! What am I thinking? Mailordia writing something?!?

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
39. That's one she won't be able to plagiarize
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:16 PM
Oct 2020

Last edited Sun Oct 4, 2020, 06:11 PM - Edit history (1)

from Michelle.

But, she might right (sic) book with Slovenian accent. "How I Met and Married Hateful Soul Mate."

brewens

(13,193 posts)
71. It starts with, "I come to Amereeca weeth no thing but perfect breasts and fine pussy
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:48 PM
Oct 2020

to make fortune."

 

Illumination

(2,458 posts)
45. But then sobbing uncontrollably when she finds out there's nothing left in their bank account &
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:28 PM
Oct 2020

she's been left penniless...

csziggy

(34,112 posts)
55. Do presidents that never served in the military get/deserve a flag?
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:53 PM
Oct 2020

Seriously, it would be an insult to the flags that both my parents earned by serving during WWII to have a draft dodging piece of shit get one just because the Electoral College is fucked up.

sarge43

(28,926 posts)
64. No he certainly does not deserve a flag or any other honor.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:08 PM
Oct 2020

However, as CinC and head of state one would be required. RHIP.

RBG never served and she had one on her casket and yes, she damn well deserved one.

csziggy

(34,112 posts)
88. OK, he can have that flag
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 06:22 PM
Oct 2020

But after his revolting display, he should not be allowed to touch an American flag!

lastlib

(22,669 posts)
72. ...Like she just won the lottery!
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:51 PM
Oct 2020

(it might take some time before it changes to "I owe WHO,WHAT??!?" Vladdy-Daddy is sure to remind her and demand payment soon!)

misanthrope

(7,372 posts)
82. Don't be so sure about that
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 04:33 PM
Oct 2020

She now knows there's no money for her, that Daddy Warbucks was in hock past his head. She is living soft right now based on their current status, which disappears if he kicks the bucket.

She also knows the nest of vipers he spawned will turn on her before the first shovelful of dirt hits Cadet Bone Spurs' coffin. Unless she has squirreled away some money, she will be SOL when he's gone.

calimary

(80,119 posts)
92. I love that! "Mailordia"!
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 02:58 PM
Oct 2020

Did you come up with that one? It's hilarious! And hilariously clever!

Hey, it's not our fault that her parents gave her a name that was so easy to play with!

brewens

(13,193 posts)
93. usually when I think I came up with a good one, I look online and someone beat me to it.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 04:02 PM
Oct 2020

Not this time as far as I can tell. I've used it all over and it doesn't seem to catch on though. Oh well. I know that there's funny!

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
18. He waited to announce he's sick until after the stock market closed
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:01 PM
Oct 2020

and he will wait to announce he's too sick to go home until after the stock market opens so it doesn't start with a crash.

This is about the stock market. It's all he's got.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
21. IMO, good observation.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:05 PM
Oct 2020

He HAS TO WIN in his estimation because if he does not, he is looking at an orange jump suit. Yep, the stock market is his only plus...and that is not saying much.

C Moon

(12,155 posts)
67. I never understood why government waited until Friday to announce a lot of big news.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:16 PM
Oct 2020

Ah, that's why: the stock market.
I always thought it was because people pay less attention to the news on the weekends or something.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
31. Good point!
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:09 PM
Oct 2020

Yep, I am sure Melania will have the casket covered by the flag of the homeland to which she owes her loyalty when he's buried.

SayItLoud

(1,690 posts)
42. Weird that they would set themselves up for more
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:21 PM
Oct 2020

in depth questions if tRUMP is not released to return to the WH tomorrow. If he's not they will have a lot more questions whose answers will also be lies.

Wonder why NO reporter has asked: Has the president* been given a drug he promoted to America? Hydroxychloroquine. If not WHY NOT?

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
44. IMO, the docs are giving more of POLITICAL rather than MEDICAL messages.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:24 PM
Oct 2020

My best guess...their patient want only certain statements made and they his voice at the moment.

BadgerMom

(2,761 posts)
61. This was my thought.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:05 PM
Oct 2020

While it is unfeeling and unhealthy to set any expectation for a sick man in his 70s with co-morbidities, they have done it. There’s no walking it back. If he isn’t released tomorrow there will be so many questions. I’m betting he waits until after the stock market closes tomorrow and returns to the White House, come hell or high water. I feel sorry for White House staff who will be exposed further by caring for him in a non medical setting.

pandr32

(11,333 posts)
2. They are trying to prop him up
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:30 PM
Oct 2020

DT gets the best top-tiered healthcare available in this country, experimental drugs not yet approved for others, copious amounts of steroids, attendees to fawn all over him while others are too often neglected, and a propaganda campaign machine that is still spinning.

DT wants his base to believe he's a tough guy duking it out for them.

jimfields33

(15,096 posts)
4. What I gained from this is that President Biden needs to get that hospital suite
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:34 PM
Oct 2020

updated. I’m hoping with the media attention, the hospital will do it after trump is discharged. It definitely needs an overhaul.

pandr32

(11,333 posts)
84. What for?
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 04:34 PM
Oct 2020

It is 5 star compared to what other people get. Have you ever been hospitalized? They aren't places of comfort and style.

mucifer

(23,218 posts)
6. He speculating. He isn't trumps doctor. He has limited information trump has the most cutting edge
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:36 PM
Oct 2020

doctors thinking out of the box right now.

Tanuki

(14,866 posts)
9. He may have some off-the-record inside information. I would be very
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:51 PM
Oct 2020

surprised if he hasn't heard a thing or two from highly placed colleagues.

Quixote1818

(28,861 posts)
28. They do if the drug can do damage if administered too early. Did you read the article?
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:08 PM
Oct 2020

Dexamethasone is generally reserved for patients who have serious disease. The National Institutes of Health’s treatment guidelines for Covid-19 say dexamethasone should be used only in hospitalized patients who are on ventilators or who require supplemental oxygen, and specifically “recommends against using dexamethasone for the treatment of Covid-19 in patients who do not require supplemental oxygen.”

58Sunliner

(4,303 posts)
32. Doctors have to justify their drug use-even with covid.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:10 PM
Oct 2020

one should not use a drug with known contra-indications for his condition. And that is the big clue here. Dexamethasone, statistically, would be detrimental to a patient in early covid treatment. He/she has a medical license to protect. Unless you want to be sued. Many doctors would not put their practice at risk, especially for a high profile patient.

Quixote1818

(28,861 posts)
68. Exactly as dexamethasone suppresses the immune system. If Trump takes a turn for the worst
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:24 PM
Oct 2020

now, then they probably would be taken to court for giving him something too early that did more bad than good.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. Some things are VERY obvious to people in the medical field,
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:12 PM
Oct 2020

and even to anyone who understands the critical difference between, for example, "or" and "and."

Those very good doctors are instructed to try to obfuscate and when that's not possible leave giant holes in their information, all of which they know other professionals treating Covid patients will have no trouble recognizing and inferring a very narrow range of possibilities from. Sometimes only one.

ffr

(22,606 posts)
14. Others in the press pool are mirroring the same message, things aren't adding up
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:56 PM
Oct 2020

tRump on third medicine since Thursday, a steriod that can reduce death in severe cases
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214209399

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
16. If he cannot be photo'd sitting up in a chair, possibly speaking, they need to put Pence in
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:58 PM
Oct 2020

This looks bad for the US. It makes us look weak, like North Korea.

Escurumbele

(3,305 posts)
20. Sorry but USA looks weak with trump on the chair, and even weaker with Pence
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:03 PM
Oct 2020

I just hope this incident is true and both trump and Pence need to retire, then we can have President Pelosi and come November Biden can be elected.

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
46. Move them out of the WH so a HAZMAT team
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:28 PM
Oct 2020

can sanitize it between Nov 3 and Jan 20, before Biden moves in.

This morning I heard a report on poll numbers on NPR. They said Trump's numbers are below 40 and added the comment that they are at the level that Hoover had in 1932.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
74. I'm sure Joe and Jill will make sure the place is cleaned up.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:57 PM
Oct 2020

And the CIA and FBI and NSA can debug the place.

Gymbo

(133 posts)
23. Wait a minute
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:06 PM
Oct 2020

The Washington Post just said the president could be released by Monday. I call fake on Trump. How do you go to the hospital with covid and then miraculously get released after a weekend?

Peregrine Took

(7,404 posts)
30. I bet he is insisting on being released.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:08 PM
Oct 2020

Then he can say refer to his hospital stay as a "weekend" only - like no big deal.

Liberty Belle

(9,521 posts)
37. Because the White House has its own doctors and nurses on staff and and a hospital-like setting
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:14 PM
Oct 2020

Capable of things like administering oxygen and IV medications if needed.

They don't have the sophisticated testing equipment like MRI or CT scan units, as far as I know, and needed to hospitalize him for those sorts of evaluations. Also had he needed a ventilator, a hospital is where he would need to be.

Anybody else would likely not be sent home so soon.

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
50. I'm betting that they do not want to release him,
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:38 PM
Oct 2020

but he is insisting on it for the optics. Just like he initially refused to go into the hospital. He could end up offing himself with his pride and "tough guy" pretensions.

Not to mention that he will still be contagious. Could also relapse from re-exposure to Melania and WH staff.

But, hey, this is America. He gets to choose what he will do

Ms. Toad

(33,745 posts)
66. You don't relapse if you aren't over it in the first place.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:13 PM
Oct 2020

But the risk to others around him, given that it is abundantly clear how contagious the strain he has acquired is, is significant.

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
89. Meriam Webster on relapse
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 06:33 PM
Oct 2020
https://www.meriamwebster.com/dictionary/relapse

2) a recurrence of symptoms of a disease after a period of improvement.


Doesn't say after getting over it, just after improvement.

Ms. Toad

(33,745 posts)
90. If that's the definition you want to hang on to -
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 06:35 PM
Oct 2020

it would have nothing to do with exposure to anyone else who is positive, since that's not how viruses work.

My comment was based on you connecting the concept of relapse to re-exposure to the virus.

Lasher

(27,356 posts)
54. Right, it's not like he would really be going "home."
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:52 PM
Oct 2020

He would be moved to the White House medical facilities.

andym

(5,423 posts)
25. He probably is both sicker than they say,but has a much better chance at recovery than most
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:07 PM
Oct 2020

Why? He got the Regeneron treatment which confers a humoral immune response equal to somone who made very high affinity neutralizing antibodies again after three weeks of infection.. That by itself should help immensely.

bdamomma

(63,247 posts)
69. but I bet
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:30 PM
Oct 2020

he is stupid enough to have a rally, hmm... now that would be interesting.

He doesn't listen to anyone esp. his Drs. since he is such a stable genius.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
38. Speaking as a hypochondriac -- I think Gupta wrong
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:14 PM
Oct 2020

More than one acquaintance of Trump has mentioned he is a bit of a hypochondriac and is “ freaking out” right now. My gut feeling, as a hypochondriac myself myself, is that Trump IS symptomatic but they have it under control...just not fast enough for Trump who is scared shitless. It would not surprise me if this third medicine is more a way to make him feel they aren’t leaving any stone unturned.

Frustrates the hell out of me that a man who has no qualms subjecting millions to this same disease, yet without his access to top (and lightening fast) medical care is now a quivering lump of fear demanding all stops be pulled—but will continue his battle to end ACA for the rest of the masses.

One thing he can’t control are long term effects. Even with all his amazing medical care he could have a difficult road back. I hope to hell he does.

Earthshine2

(3,587 posts)
43. I think both you and Gupta are correct. Both of your educated opinions are completely compatible.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:21 PM
Oct 2020

Trump is freaked and making the Drs use everything at their disposal.

Things are worse than they are telling us.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
47. My only solace is this will take a toll regardless of science
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:30 PM
Oct 2020

I don’t think it’s wrong to feel satisfaction if Trump suffers long term effects from this. It feels like karma because it’s self inflicted. Trump has gotten away with sooooo much during his Presidency. COVID isn’t something he could bullshit away. Yes, his money and power probably saved his life where others would probably have died, but my hope is that this hits him right where it hurts the most—his fear of looking weak. You don’t “snap back” from something like this even with the best of care. So I think I can be forgiven for hoping he pays for his own recklessness by having a long road back. No energy for rallies, looking weak and tired in public, etc.

radius777

(3,613 posts)
70. Agree, and he and his rich friends pay no taxes
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:33 PM
Oct 2020

yet have no problem helping themselves to the best taxpayer funded care - while many regular Americans died alone and went out in body bags.

Earthshine2

(3,587 posts)
87. "I don't think it's wrong to feel satisfaction if Trump suffers long term effects from this. "
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 05:54 PM
Oct 2020

I agree. It's okay to have these types of evil thoughts and feelings as long as one does not act on them.

It is totally natural to feel what you feel -- and I feel the schadenfreude as well.

If he survives, it's probable his lungs and more will be scarred for life.

Peace to you.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
51. Regeneron has a less than stellar history.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:44 PM
Oct 2020

With a MS in Microbiology and an avid follower of pharma companies, I would not automatically think that because Trump got the Regeneron cocktail he has a big advantage. The company has a track record of cherry picking data going back to their previous treatments and little of it so far with the Covid cocktail has been reviewed independently. The Regeneron CEO and his son are Trump supporters and members of one of his golf clubs. Trump's financial disclosure showed large capital gains from Regeneron stock in 2017.

The Regeneron cocktail monoclonal science will likely be a blueprint for great future treatments, but likely is not a miracle in its current form. My hunch is it may just delay the inevitable second wave of virus symptoms that will hit Trump within the next week. The virus replicates and targets various organs over time. The cocktail may just postpone what is coming for Trump. As we learned in virology, viruses are quite resilient and bide their time.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
58. Very enlightening
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:00 PM
Oct 2020

Thanks so much for posting. I don’t know much about the science behind monoclonal antibodies and I had no idea about the ties between Regeneron and Trump. Very interesting...

panader0

(25,816 posts)
75. People like you are one of the reasons I love DU.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 03:02 PM
Oct 2020

There are experts in many fields here.
Great post.

BusyBeingBest

(8,049 posts)
59. They're obviously treating him much more aggressively than most of us would
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:01 PM
Oct 2020

be treated unless we were ready to be intubated--it's hard to say how much of that is his actual condition and how much of that is precaution. You'd have to look at the dangers and side effects of the medications and treatments for someone in his age group and prior health status to really say for sure what's going on. Maybe Gupta knows that the docs weighed the risks of the meds and still thought they had to proceed aggressively because he was deteriorating.

Warpy

(110,517 posts)
77. The silly photo op told the tale
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 03:15 PM
Oct 2020

Signing his name with a Sharpie in the middle of a random piece of blank paper, ethernet and USB cords dangling, unplugged, his face not made up and looking a little drawn. The quality was poor so I couldn't tell if he was a little dusky around the edges, but I would imagine he is since he's dumped his O2 sat. twice in the last 24 hours.

he seems to be as ill as I was when I had "preumptive." I'd feel sorry for him but he's done too much to piss me off.

kwijybo

(217 posts)
78. That was obvious from the video Twitler released
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 03:22 PM
Oct 2020

I only watch a minute of it, but in that time he gasped for breath a couple of times. He sounded like my father on a very bad day (84M, AFIB, obese, COPD, etc). He will talk (deep breath) like this and (deep breath) this and so on.

iluvtennis

(19,646 posts)
79. Dr Conley is gaslighting us. He said trump is on remdesivir and has had 2 treatments thus far.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 03:22 PM
Oct 2020

He then later said to reporter trump is on a 5 dose remdesivir treatment. So, to me that mean 3 more daily doses which means earliest he would go home would be Wednesday.

Dr Conley is a LIAR just like his boss Don the Con.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Dr. Sanjay Gupta of CNN j...