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it can't be said enough. fuck Ralph Nader. (Original Post) scheming daemons Sep 2012 OP
Why bother... WCGreen Sep 2012 #1
I agree fuck Nader gopiscrap Sep 2012 #2
to get graphic... a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #4
He prefers to criticize Democrats. WinkyDink Sep 2012 #3
Fuck you Ralph Nader...stronger message to follow. Freedomofspeech Sep 2012 #5
Blah blah blah. Arctic Dave Sep 2012 #6
Warcrimes don't matter tama Sep 2012 #7
What made you all decide to descend again today? Nt DevonRex Sep 2012 #18
Obama is winning, so romney's allies on the Naderite fringe are having a freak out. nt geek tragedy Sep 2012 #33
Nailed it... SidDithers Sep 2012 #42
All on the same day it seems. How remarkable is that DevonRex Sep 2012 #45
Delusion takes many forms nt tama Sep 2012 #50
Nailed that one..it is only a war crime if their guy does it. Talk about blind allegiance. AnOhioan Sep 2012 #9
Perhaps you'd be more comfortable elsewhere then. DevonRex Sep 2012 #17
"their guy?". This troll just outed himself. geek tragedy Sep 2012 #30
Oh boy. "Their guy" is Bush. Union Scribe Sep 2012 #51
"Their guy" is indeed any Republican President.... AnOhioan Sep 2012 #60
So..are you a mass murderer? my question makes just about as much sense AnOhioan Sep 2012 #61
Neither the LGBT group nor the feminists like "pearl clutching." DevonRex Sep 2012 #16
Concern noted. Arctic Dave Sep 2012 #22
Likewise, Assad/Qadaffi fanboy. nt geek tragedy Sep 2012 #29
Name one country either has murdered other citizens in? Arctic Dave Sep 2012 #35
No, you only cheer for dictators murdering their own people. nt geek tragedy Sep 2012 #38
It is called civil war and it sucks. Arctic Dave Sep 2012 #39
Obama was democratically elected. Your heroes were never elected and geek tragedy Sep 2012 #41
And yet our elected official has no qualms about being friends with "those" people. Arctic Dave Sep 2012 #43
Scotland. bluedigger Sep 2012 #47
Haha. You called me an Internet nobody. YOU! DevonRex Sep 2012 #48
I wonder what it takes to be an internet somebody? renie408 Sep 2012 #56
And if Assad or Qadaffi did something 100 times worse, you'd defend them. geek tragedy Sep 2012 #28
They kill people in other countries? Arctic Dave Sep 2012 #34
No, they only massacre their own citizens--which is okay with those geek tragedy Sep 2012 #37
I wrote him off years ago Skittles Sep 2012 #8
The war criminal is Nader. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #10
So you're saying third parties can't field candidates? HarveyDarkey Sep 2012 #11
Who's this we you speak of? We here don't need 3rd parties. DevonRex Sep 2012 #23
Not at all, I'm a Democrat HarveyDarkey Sep 2012 #24
Tremble, for the grand inquisitor speaks. Union Scribe Sep 2012 #52
It's remarkable in how extraordinary undemocratic it is. Luminous Animal Sep 2012 #25
Third parties pretending to be progressive shouldn't be accepting money pnwmom Sep 2012 #55
Say what? renie408 Sep 2012 #58
You might be interested in this. pnwmom Sep 2012 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author HarveyDarkey Sep 2012 #36
That was 12 years ago HarveyDarkey Sep 2012 #40
link no longer works... spanone Sep 2012 #12
Here you go.. Luminous Animal Sep 2012 #26
Okay, now that I've seen the article, Skidmore Sep 2012 #31
HUGE DU rec!... SidDithers Sep 2012 #13
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #14
Nader's mouth is Cha Sep 2012 #15
Fuck you Nader. Please find total irrelevance soon. banned from Kos Sep 2012 #19
Fuck Nader. Republican shill. Scum. Just yuck. Nt DevonRex Sep 2012 #20
Nader is a crotchety attention whore who never had any real aspiration to make things better. phleshdef Sep 2012 #21
crotchety attention whore<< Winner!! 2on2u Sep 2012 #32
And his fan cultists as well. Naderites are useless, without exceptions. nt geek tragedy Sep 2012 #27
K and R DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #44
So I assume that you disagree with this. MadHound Sep 2012 #46
Ooh, you've been challenged by a Nader article in Common Dreams! DevonRex Sep 2012 #49
Nader is irrelevant and desperate to BE relevant. nt WeekendWarrior Sep 2012 #53
A truly irrelevant person could not inspire such hatred. Union Scribe Sep 2012 #54
Yep....this place is entering the realm of the truly comic.... AnOhioan Sep 2012 #62
Ann Coulter is irrelevant, too. Kinda blows that theory, doesn't it? nt WeekendWarrior Sep 2012 #63
I hear WalMart Le Taz Hot Sep 2012 #57
Obama has done things which by any objective standards constitute war crimes. redgreenandblue Sep 2012 #59
Does everyone want to fight about this now? porphyrian Sep 2012 #64

gopiscrap

(23,758 posts)
2. I agree fuck Nader
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 07:24 PM
Sep 2012

I'm still pissed at him about 2000 NH would have gone to Gore if not for him and we wouldn't have had Shrub for 8 years!!!

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
6. Blah blah blah.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 07:39 PM
Sep 2012

If bush was doing what Obama was doing you would be calling him a war criminal too.

Clutch pearl often? Pftt.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
45. All on the same day it seems. How remarkable is that
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 11:13 PM
Sep 2012

do you think? Have you a talent with the making of odds? I confess I haven't but even I can see that he odds must be quite high. Wouldn't you agree?

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
17. Perhaps you'd be more comfortable elsewhere then.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:43 PM
Sep 2012

Since we don't seem to be up to your "standards."

AnOhioan

(2,894 posts)
60. "Their guy" is indeed any Republican President....
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 05:55 AM
Sep 2012

The post is decrying the tendency to overlook the faults of a Democrat just because they are a Democrat. If something is wrong, it is wrong, no matter who occupies the office.

If that is enough to have some ppl start calling for a tombstone, then so be it.

The paranoia exhibited by some members here is truly astounding

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
16. Neither the LGBT group nor the feminists like "pearl clutching."
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:41 PM
Sep 2012

And fuck Ralph Nader. He's nothing but scum. Lower than dog shit.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
35. Name one country either has murdered other citizens in?
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:21 PM
Sep 2012

Civil wars suck but I don't cheer murder of other countries citizens.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
39. It is called civil war and it sucks.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:35 PM
Sep 2012

I asked this question when all these "uprising" started,

What do you think Obama would do if you took up arms and tried to overthrow the governmnet? What would any government on this entire planet do?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
41. Obama was democratically elected. Your heroes were never elected and
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:42 PM
Sep 2012

ergo lack the moral or international legal authority to use violence to crush dissent.

Last word is yours, mass murder apologist.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
43. And yet our elected official has no qualms about being friends with "those" people.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:58 PM
Sep 2012

Saudi Arabia and Bahrain come to mind.

What is the "stan" we use as a base to make war on Afghanistan, you know, the one that tortures people?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
28. And if Assad or Qadaffi did something 100 times worse, you'd defend them.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:08 PM
Sep 2012

Oh wait, that actually did happen.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
37. No, they only massacre their own citizens--which is okay with those
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:28 PM
Sep 2012

whothose who reflexively support anti-American dictators.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
10. The war criminal is Nader.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:15 PM
Sep 2012

That asshole should be in prison beside Bush and Cheney. Nader knowingly cost sane people the election in 2000. And a bunch the very same fucking people that are whining about war and killing savage assholes with drones voted for Nader. Triple fuck Ralph Nader.

 

HarveyDarkey

(9,077 posts)
11. So you're saying third parties can't field candidates?
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:26 PM
Sep 2012

The "two" parties are the only ones allowed to run? We need a strong third (or fourth) to keep the Dems & Repukes honest. They have such iron fisted control over the electoral process, even determining who can or cannot participate in the debates it's a crime.

 

HarveyDarkey

(9,077 posts)
24. Not at all, I'm a Democrat
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:57 PM
Sep 2012

The you I referred to was the person I responded to. Just playing devil's advocate concerning their argument.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
25. It's remarkable in how extraordinary undemocratic it is.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:59 PM
Sep 2012

On the other hand, if Ron Paul had run, many here would be celebrating a split Republican vote. Three parties are A-OK if it harms the "enemy."

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
55. Third parties pretending to be progressive shouldn't be accepting money
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:50 AM
Sep 2012

from neocons to run against Democrats.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
65. You might be interested in this.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:25 PM
Sep 2012
http://www.factcheck.org/radio_ad_attacks_nader_over_gop_support.html


Summary
Thenaderfactor.com -- an anti-Nader group staffed by former Dean, Clark, and Gephardt campaigners -- released a new radio ad July 13 saying Nader is getting help from Republicans in three key states in hopes of stripping votes away from Kerry.

It says, "The same right-wing Republicans that are anti-choice and anti-environment are suddenly pro-Nader."

The ad's use of the terms "right wing" (which it uses six times) and "extremist" (used twice) are debatable, as is the term "anti-environment." But it is well documented that some Republican-leaning groups have worked for Nader, and that a few wealthy Republican donors have given money to the Nader campaign.

SNIP

Nader himself has welcomed Republican support. The Hartford Courant quoted him July 4: "If they want to help us speak freely inside the electoral arena, that's fine."

Response to bluestate10 (Reply #10)

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
26. Here you go..
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:05 PM
Sep 2012

Nader doesn’t let Republicans off easy, either, calling them “the worst Republican Party in history.”

“We’re dealing with a real sick, decaying Democratic Party that can’t defend the country against the cruelest, most ignorant, most anti-worker, most war-mongering, most Wall Street–indentured Republican Party in its history, since the 1850s.”

As for Romney, Nader said “he’s not the old Romney, governor of Massachusetts. He’s had a character and personality makeover. He’s just bought into the extreme right wing of the Republican Party, represented by Paul Ryan, and I don’t think he’s going to be able to shake that. He’s basically a corporation running for president masquerading as a human being.”Nader doesn’t let Republicans off easy, either, calling them “the worst Republican Party in history.”

“We’re dealing with a real sick, decaying Democratic Party that can’t defend the country against the cruelest, most ignorant, most anti-worker, most war-mongering, most Wall Street–indentured Republican Party in its history, since the 1850s.”

As for Romney, Nader said “he’s not the old Romney, governor of Massachusetts. He’s had a character and personality makeover. He’s just bought into the extreme right wing of the Republican Party, represented by Paul Ryan, and I don’t think he’s going to be able to shake that. He’s basically a corporation running for president masquerading as a human being.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81649.html#ixzz27X8UcnHX

Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
21. Nader is a crotchety attention whore who never had any real aspiration to make things better.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:46 PM
Sep 2012

If he wanted to be taken seriously, he should've worked the Democratic party from the inside, ran for Congress or Senate, and actually fought to do something useful to enable himself to be a credible candidate for the Presidency. I will give him plenty of credit for his early days as a consumer advocate. But he has shit all over his own legacy ever since.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
46. So I assume that you disagree with this.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 11:17 PM
Sep 2012

"There was something missing from the release of a tape showing Mitt Romney pandering to fat cats in Boca Raton, Florida with these very inflammatory words: “There are 47 percent who are with him, (Obama) who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. These are people who pay no income tax.” Romney said his job “is not to worry about those people.”

Hey, Mitt, why start with the 47 percent? Fully 100 percent of the nation’s 500 biggest corporations are dependent on various kinds of corporate welfare – subsidies, giveaways, bailouts, waivers, and other dazzling preferences – while many pay no tax at all on very substantial profits"
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/09/20-7

After all, it was written by Nader

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
54. A truly irrelevant person could not inspire such hatred.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:45 AM
Sep 2012

While some of that is understandable, a lot of it is just bizarre and--from my vantage point--funny.

AnOhioan

(2,894 posts)
62. Yep....this place is entering the realm of the truly comic....
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:06 AM
Sep 2012

the absolute venom being spewed by the safely anonymous has always struck my funny bone. I think a post a week mentioning Nader, just to get the predictable faux outrage going is becoming a necessity.

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
59. Obama has done things which by any objective standards constitute war crimes.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 05:21 AM
Sep 2012

Am I supposed to get riled up because someone calls things what they are?

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
64. Does everyone want to fight about this now?
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:31 AM
Sep 2012

Who gives a fuck? Nader is irrelevant. We are about to stomp the living shit out of Romney. Enjoy it for two seconds.

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