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vlyons

(10,252 posts)
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:29 PM Sep 2020

For all those afraid that Trump won't go peacefully if not re-elected,

rest assured he may mouth-off his BS, but he is a coward at heart. On Jan 20, Biden will be sworn in as POTUS. There are more than enough Fed judges, who would be honored to administer the oath of office. But John Roberts will no doubt do the honors. One week earlier, the WH staff will be busy packing the Trump belongings and moving them out. Cleaning the WH residence and moving in the Bidens' stuff in. (Let's hope they count all the silver too!) The Secret Service and the US Marshalls will deftly escort the Trumps to a waiting helicopter. All the bru-ha-ha about Trump not going peacefully is merely Trump getting the MSMedia to talk about himself. If you haven't learned by now that Trump shoots his mouth daily to stir the pot and keep the chaos boiling -- well where have you been for the last 4 years?

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For all those afraid that Trump won't go peacefully if not re-elected, (Original Post) vlyons Sep 2020 OP
I agree, and hopefully they take Barr out of the DOJ in handcuffs the same day. redstatebluegirl Sep 2020 #1
The problem will not occur if it's 100% obvious who has won ... mr_lebowski Sep 2020 #2
Agreed Miguelito Loveless Sep 2020 #7
Once it's clear trump is beaten, he'll go into hiding except when he can't avoid it. Hoyt Sep 2020 #3
He'll go into hiding at Mar-A-Largo and play golf his last 10 weeks to make money off of taxpayers KS Toronado Sep 2020 #29
That is pretty much what he's been saying since his poorly attended inauguration. RVN VET71 Sep 2020 #32
I keep reading this same reasoning Miguelito Loveless Sep 2020 #4
I agree. I hope the Dems in Congress have a plan Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #27
Many people with better credentials disagree with you. Doremus Sep 2020 #5
Amen Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #28
And Trump's GOP enablers will desert him like he's got leprosy! ElementaryPenguin Sep 2020 #6
I don't worry about him as much as I worry about his cult. They are armed, angry and ignorant. Siwsan Sep 2020 #8
Sounds like a plan Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #30
Are we supposed to forget about Putin... dchill Sep 2020 #9
How dare you interrupt the fear orgy!11 BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #10
much of this is truly out of our hands but the "not re-elected" part we can help with 0rganism Sep 2020 #11
All the same, it doesn't hurt to prepare oneself. . . DinahMoeHum Sep 2020 #12
The Bidens might be delayed by about a week moving in. Laelth Sep 2020 #13
A deep sweep for Putin's listening devices will be needed. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #22
Quite. 2 weeks at the very least. n/t Laelth Sep 2020 #40
There's no doubt in my mind that he'll try to cause as much confusion as he can about the votes, napi21 Sep 2020 #14
I'm taking a little break from the news shows vlyons Sep 2020 #19
My wish is they beat the crap out of him similar to what we see happening to the protestors. walkingman Sep 2020 #15
I also believe Andy823 Sep 2020 #16
The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance. skip fox Sep 2020 #17
++++++1000 Doremus Sep 2020 #23
Two thoughts PJMcK Sep 2020 #18
That boil on the ass of democracy for 40 years corresponds nicely with the rise of the gingriches erronis Sep 2020 #33
the wh historical society counts EVERYTHING ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #20
I don't care if he accepts it or not. No one should, really. Luz Sep 2020 #21
Secret Service Traildogbob Sep 2020 #26
My concern is the cult and the violence they start. nt Gore1FL Sep 2020 #24
I hear ya but just who are they going to violence and how will they find them? Ligyron Sep 2020 #41
This isn't just about Trump not going peacefully. It's about his followers not going peacefully. ancianita Sep 2020 #25
It's not just Rachel Maddow stirring up fear... AntiFascist Sep 2020 #31
The next thing to do is to restore the public office of Attorney General... NNadir Sep 2020 #34
and Glenn Kirschner is the AG who would be the man to start the clean-up RicROC Sep 2020 #35
Agreed wryter2000 Sep 2020 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author vapor2 Sep 2020 #37
He may be a coward Nasruddin Sep 2020 #38
My prediction Jayny Sep 2020 #39
Depends. 30 states are counting mail in votes before election day mucifer Sep 2020 #42

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
1. I agree, and hopefully they take Barr out of the DOJ in handcuffs the same day.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:32 PM
Sep 2020

I figure 45 will get out of any penalty but I want Barr in jail.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. The problem will not occur if it's 100% obvious who has won ...
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:32 PM
Sep 2020

That's not what we're worried about.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,513 posts)
7. Agreed
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:36 PM
Sep 2020

Our only hope is a lopsided win with in person voting, but then Trump will all of a sudden pull a 180 on mail in ballots, and refuse to accept a loss until they are counted, and he will contest every ballot, in every jurisdiction, to every tribunal, all the while whipping up his Twitter loons to violence.

KS Toronado

(17,823 posts)
29. He'll go into hiding at Mar-A-Largo and play golf his last 10 weeks to make money off of taxpayers
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:54 PM
Sep 2020

He'll claim that " Well nobody wants me in the White House, so f@@k everybody"

Miguelito Loveless

(4,513 posts)
4. I keep reading this same reasoning
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:33 PM
Sep 2020

and I hope you are right, but I really don't think he will leave peacefully.

Trump knows that jail awaits. The GOP will back him to the hilt up to, and including, violent overthrow of the government, because they know jail awaits many of them as well.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
5. Many people with better credentials disagree with you.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:34 PM
Sep 2020

Loyal Americans will remain alert and do everything they can to protect democracy. You can pretend there's no threat but it doesn't make it any less likely.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
6. And Trump's GOP enablers will desert him like he's got leprosy!
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:34 PM
Sep 2020

They'll end up acting like they never supported him, and deny even knowing him in time.

Once Trump is powerless he will be even more friendless than ever.

Siwsan

(26,466 posts)
8. I don't worry about him as much as I worry about his cult. They are armed, angry and ignorant.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:38 PM
Sep 2020

I'm voting in person and after leaving my polling place I plan to pick up any incidentals I might need (AKA wine) and hunkering down for as long as necessary.

dchill

(38,725 posts)
9. Are we supposed to forget about Putin...
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:41 PM
Sep 2020

...and the hold he has on the entire GOP? I fear that they will do as they are instructed, as they have done all along.

0rganism

(24,078 posts)
11. much of this is truly out of our hands but the "not re-elected" part we can help with
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:44 PM
Sep 2020

i hope we can all find a way to focus on the things we can do instead of fretting over stuff that's way beyond our influence

DinahMoeHum

(21,914 posts)
12. All the same, it doesn't hurt to prepare oneself. . .
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:45 PM
Sep 2020

. . .to take to the streets and do other actions if G*d forbid, the worst happens.

https://choosedemocracy.us/

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
13. The Bidens might be delayed by about a week moving in.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:46 PM
Sep 2020

A thorough fumigation will be required.

-Laelth

napi21

(45,806 posts)
14. There's no doubt in my mind that he'll try to cause as much confusion as he can about the votes,
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:46 PM
Sep 2020

but your statement about being a coward is very true. He wont physically get involved in anything! I honestly think that the confusion he's trying to incite right now is just to keep HIM in the spotlight! I don't believe there's any truth to any of it. Think about it...what's on every news show & between a political junkie anywhere? DT! Will he or won't he? I wish all the channels wpoul;d just drop it for a while & take him out of any news. THAT would freak him out! He needs the headlines to survive.

walkingman

(7,872 posts)
15. My wish is they beat the crap out of him similar to what we see happening to the protestors.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:50 PM
Sep 2020
Law and Order

Andy823

(11,496 posts)
16. I also believe
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:52 PM
Sep 2020

He is trying to get all the money he can from his "cult" followers before he leaves the W.H.

He knows this kind of talk gets them all worked up, and he will continue to take their money as long as they are dumb enough to give it him!

PJMcK

(22,164 posts)
18. Two thoughts
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:58 PM
Sep 2020

First, you ask, "...where have you been for the last 4 years?"

My response is, how about the last 40 years?! Trump has been a boil on the ass of the United States since the early 1980s, at least. How anyone couldn't see what a failure, liar and loser he is baffles me.

Second, the reason for concern is not based on Trump's pathetic losing history. In the past, he had his fixers, (Michael Cohen, Roy Cohn, etc.), taking care of his personal and financial problems. That was all small potatoes compared to the current situation. Now, Trump has the power of the Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security and other parts of the government under his control. This consolidation of power and influence in red states present the potential for severe problems.

Mostly, I think you're correct. But it would be naive to not prepare for all other contingencies.

erronis

(15,786 posts)
33. That boil on the ass of democracy for 40 years corresponds nicely with the rise of the gingriches
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 04:20 PM
Sep 2020

The group that took over the somewhat moderate Republicans and turned it into the (r)epuglicons.

Got a early formulation during the McCarthy/Roy Cohn era. Nixon was an early attempt, then Reagan (along with Haig), then the Cheney driving the chump's bus over the cliff.

Funny how the (r)epuglicons since Eisenhower have been striving to kill the USA all the while acting like patriots. Must be a lesson learned from the communists and other cultists.

Speaking of cults. The new SCOTUS-to-be seems to be a member of the same secret societies that Wm. Barr is part of. Echos that horror flick in Georgetown...

Luz

(772 posts)
21. I don't care if he accepts it or not. No one should, really.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:34 PM
Sep 2020

Leave him screaming and kicking in the corner while the adults take care of business. After Jan 20th, I will give him no more attention.

Traildogbob

(9,063 posts)
26. Secret Service
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:50 PM
Sep 2020

I heard an interview this AM with the reporter that asked him the question at the presser yesterday, “will you support peaceful transition”? He said we would be shocked at the amount of civil servants in the SS that can’t wait to drag his fat ass away. It will take a few for his ass and Barr’s. I want Meadows drug out and banned from North Carolina. He needs to be attached to Trumps ass whereever he goes, Moscow or prison.

Ligyron

(7,700 posts)
41. I hear ya but just who are they going to violence and how will they find them?
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:59 PM
Sep 2020

Roving gangs of Meal Team 6 looking under rocks for Libruls? I guess they could look for Biden yard signs but most will be gone by Jan I should think.

I predict a whole bunch of arrests of those violencing because it's against the law in most places and they always lose fire fights with law enforcement.

The media will play it up though 'cause if it bleeds it leads and people will freak and over react like always to the scattered incidents of those which surely will occur.

ancianita

(36,505 posts)
25. This isn't just about Trump not going peacefully. It's about his followers not going peacefully.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:47 PM
Sep 2020

If you haven't learned by now that millions of Trump followers assault fellow Americans with stalking, intimidation, threats, and shows of guns to foment fear of, and on behalf of, their dear leader -- well where have you been for the last 4 years?

All these fascist followers of just one nation wrecker. Their ignorance, fear and hate is what holds them all together. We who have to face them should remember that there are more of us than them.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
31. It's not just Rachel Maddow stirring up fear...
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:58 PM
Sep 2020

Laurence Tribe was just on CNN stating that we need to take Trump seriously, even though he may be viewed as a moron and a joker. People needed to take him seriously previously when he threatened to ban Muslims and when he threatened to tear apart families at the border, and they also need to take this threat seriously.

The point is not to make people feel hopeless about the election, the point is to be able to prepare for what may be coming next. Much of this fight may involve Republican-controlled state legislatures overriding the count of mail-in ballots.

 

NNadir

(33,642 posts)
34. The next thing to do is to restore the public office of Attorney General...
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 04:57 PM
Sep 2020

...to begin the criminal investigation of the current so called "Attorney General" as well as Putin's mangey dog.

If Putin's mangey dog is allowed to go to Mar-A-Largo, he should do so with an ankle bracelet so as prevent him from leaving the United States.

wryter2000

(46,358 posts)
36. Agreed
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 05:02 PM
Sep 2020

I still hope Biden will win by 11/3 or the next morning. Cut down on the BS. We’ve endured enough.

Response to vlyons (Original post)

Nasruddin

(763 posts)
38. He may be a coward
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 05:10 PM
Sep 2020

But I 'm afraid that at this stage of his dementia - or whatever he gets to by late Jan 2021 - he's not really in charge of what he does any more. He's not the only one who's got it all on the line.

Jayny

(5 posts)
39. My prediction
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 05:23 PM
Sep 2020

My prediction- Because the majority of Biden voters will be by mail, with a majority of his voters by in person, it’ll look like Trump has the lead in several states on election night with no clear winner due to the mail in ballots not fully counted. I then suspect Barr and Trump will hold a press conference the next day saying they’ll legally challenge mail in ballots, to have them not counted. With panic and chaos ensuing, it goes to the courts (Hopefully not to a biased Supreme Court). And then eventually all the mail in’s are counted, Biden is declared the winner, and trump will just mouth his conspiracy bs, until it’s time for him to leave.

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