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Ed Markey goes there (Original Post) RhodeIslandOne Sep 2020 OP
No doubt Biden will be doing that. We've really really got to GOTV!! Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #1
Sounds Fair. Plus Washington DC should become a state. texasfiddler Sep 2020 #2
..and Puerto Rico In It to Win It Sep 2020 #4
... and pass Wyoming rule to expand the size of the House. Statistical Sep 2020 #18
Would that mean shifting the Electoral College in the direction of higher population densities? nt coti Sep 2020 #21
And abolish the electoral college. n/t BComplex Sep 2020 #31
Yes because the EV from Senate seats would make up a smaller share. Statistical Sep 2020 #32
and the US Virgin Islands. nt iluvtennis Sep 2020 #24
Oh, yes, we HAVE a wish list bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #12
That's how you play their game. Baitball Blogger Sep 2020 #3
That is my Senator. sheshe2 Sep 2020 #5
Mine too! smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #42
Yep. sheshe2 Sep 2020 #44
Rt Senator Markey! Cha Sep 2020 #6
Dear Cha LakeArenal Sep 2020 #7
I know, Dear LA.. at least we Cha Sep 2020 #8
That attitude's why Markey resoundingly won a few weeks ago nt liskddksil Sep 2020 #9
Yep, time to play hardball. radius777 Sep 2020 #10
Bingo! BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #14
Yes that is the way to use what leverage you can muster bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #11
It's not altering precedent, it's observing the new precedent Bobstandard Sep 2020 #20
"...when Democrats control the Senate in the next Congress" LudwigPastorius Sep 2020 #13
Time to take the gloves off!!!! Catch2.2 Sep 2020 #15
+1 K&R! 2 can play this game. Throw the hammer down. If they vote for SCOTUS, retaliate with onetexan Sep 2020 #35
The Dems NEED to do this! Catch2.2 Sep 2020 #16
Good. Glad he did. nt crickets Sep 2020 #17
The Democratic electorate needs to step up and NoMoreRepugs Sep 2020 #19
And.... colsohlibgal Sep 2020 #22
This too +1 K&R onetexan Sep 2020 #36
We owe it to RGB (and to ourselves) to fight hard and with every obscure senate rule. nt Earthshine2 Sep 2020 #23
We should be doing that regardless of whether or not they fill the seat. StevieM Sep 2020 #25
Yep. jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #30
Yes. We Must. dalton99a Sep 2020 #26
Regardless of what McConnell does, they should kill the filibuster and expand SCOTUS Fiendish Thingy Sep 2020 #27
time to start getting tough MFM008 Sep 2020 #28
Yep! jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #29
If Moscow Mitch violates his own words (he will of course) BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2020 #33
Win all 3 branches and we can make some major changes. lark Sep 2020 #34
How about use the filibuster the way it was intended, PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #37
K&R Blue Owl Sep 2020 #38
Biden needs to get out in front of this: Yellowdog88 Sep 2020 #39
And add a state or two Ronjon55 Sep 2020 #40
Yes! Make all the territories states! No taxation without representation! SunSeeker Sep 2020 #43
K & R SunSeeker Sep 2020 #41

coti

(4,612 posts)
21. Would that mean shifting the Electoral College in the direction of higher population densities? nt
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:32 PM
Sep 2020

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
32. Yes because the EV from Senate seats would make up a smaller share.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:12 AM
Sep 2020

It is something we can do without a constitutional amendment.

sheshe2

(84,196 posts)
44. Yep.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:43 PM
Sep 2020

No way was I voting for Kennedy. He was my Rep and had voted for him. He disappointed me. Now he has lost his seat. All we have now for representation in Congress is a Dem that became a R so he could work for and elect our Governor-R...then switched back again.

Bright blue district gave us an on again off again GOPer.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
10. Yep, time to play hardball.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:21 PM
Sep 2020

It shows you the outsized importance of the Senate and the SCOTUS that the founders never intended and how undemocratic the entire thing is - as small states (which tend to be heavily RW and white) hold disproportionate power in this country.

We must make DC and PR states (to get 4 more senators), expand SCOTUS, and work to abolish or neuter the Electoral College.

bucolic_frolic

(43,659 posts)
11. Yes that is the way to use what leverage you can muster
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:39 PM
Sep 2020

They have been warned. Democrats will alter precedent to defend the courts from partisanship.

Well played Senator Markey

Bobstandard

(1,341 posts)
20. It's not altering precedent, it's observing the new precedent
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:30 PM
Sep 2020

Mitch was the guy who turned over precedent re Supreme Court nominations. Since precedent is abandoned, lets establish a new normal that might preserve democracy for another coupe of terms at least.

LudwigPastorius

(9,338 posts)
13. "...when Democrats control the Senate in the next Congress"
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:52 PM
Sep 2020

We all hope this happens, but taking control of both houses is no guarantee that a court-packing bill will succeed.

Biden has flatly stated that he opposes such a measure. (which he kind of has to say if he wants to win the election)

onetexan

(13,095 posts)
35. +1 K&R! 2 can play this game. Throw the hammer down. If they vote for SCOTUS, retaliate with
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:50 AM
Sep 2020

expansion of the SCOTUS & lower courts, & impeach Kavanaugh. They can cry foul but they can't have their cake & eat it too - move to set their own precedent then hypocritically break it.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,562 posts)
19. The Democratic electorate needs to step up and
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:18 PM
Sep 2020

take back our F’en country - expand the courts, make DC and Puerto Rico states and start to turn this debacle around.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
22. And....
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:36 PM
Sep 2020

Ditch the Electoral College....minus that HRC would be President right now, Dufus Donnie maybe in Jail for tax fraud among other things.

StevieM

(10,501 posts)
25. We should be doing that regardless of whether or not they fill the seat.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:21 AM
Sep 2020

James Comey helped them steal the 2016 election. We need to stop pretending that the things he did were normal or legitimate. They were neither. And they also were not survivable for too many politicians. We have no obligation to accept the results of that phony election that they set up.

jorgevlorgan

(8,372 posts)
30. Yep.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:51 AM
Sep 2020

The fact they are even trying gives us the green light to expand once we have the power to do so.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,744 posts)
27. Regardless of what McConnell does, they should kill the filibuster and expand SCOTUS
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:29 AM
Sep 2020

Take Mitch’s power away completely, so Biden and the Dems can ram through all the legislation required to Fix Trump’s mess and heal America, without obstruction or compromise.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
33. If Moscow Mitch violates his own words (he will of course)
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:45 AM
Sep 2020

We have to do a lot more than just waiting till Joe gets in! Because we know pukes and Russians are doing everything in their power to get their shit king on the throne.

lark

(23,245 posts)
34. Win all 3 branches and we can make some major changes.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:56 AM
Sep 2020

What Markey said is critical for the survival of our democracy. One more facist SCOTUS and we are dead, well so much we hold dear will be dead. For instance, four year terms - gone, healthcare - gone, social security and Medicare - gone - stolen by the rich. Will we still be able to vote after 8 years of drumpf and RW courts - doubtful, will there still be free public schools - doubtful, unions - gone, right to protest - gone. Dems have to fight back and take overwhelming steps to reconstitute our democracy when/if we win. The gloves have to come off - no filibuster for any reason, expand SCOTUS by 2, change the laws to require 10 years of tax returns to be eligible to run for the presidency, put teeth in subpoenas and throw the fascists in jail when they refuse and take away their salaries. Enhance the emoluments clause, give it definition and penalties - never can we have someone who runs the country for his own profit again.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,941 posts)
37. How about use the filibuster the way it was intended,
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:35 PM
Sep 2020

for a member of Congress to actually stay on the floor for as long as necessary, or a rotating group of members to do the same thing? And then a vote of I think it's 2/3 to end the filibuster.

Yellowdog88

(66 posts)
39. Biden needs to get out in front of this:
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 02:12 PM
Sep 2020

1. Issue a rejection of any nomination, hearing, or vote on the vacancy prior to inauguration.
2. Should they proceed and seat a justice in violation of their precedent, Biden will pursue adding AT MINIMUM 2 additional justices.

And name the top 2 considerations for the seats:
1. Merrick Garland
2. Barack Obama.


Pull the pin on that grenade.

Watch the votes pour in for Biden and democratic senators.

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