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I think "manipulate" is a word that should be used when discussing Donald Trump's COVID-19 lies. Manipulation is a key trait of malignant narcissists.
"He lied to manipulate you."
"He wanted to control your behavior, for himself, for the stock market, his reelection, etc."
Just a thought before having morning coffee.
Ilsa
(61,697 posts)He manipulated (you) for his own financial benefit and to win the election, without caring about anyone else. He did it intentionally. He threatened people who tried to tell the truth. That should be the message.
madaboutharry
(40,218 posts)The MAGA followers hitched their wagons to Trump because they believed that the "establishment" disrespected them.
What greater disrespect is there than someone not placing value on your own life?
The irony.
ananda
(28,874 posts).. they care about hating Democrats and liberals.
That has been true for quite awhile.
It's a murder-suicide cult.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)time to steamroll their asses
JI7
(89,262 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)SamKnause
(13,110 posts)If not, how do you account for Trump's 35% cult following ???
How do you account for Facebook and their success in spreading fake news and conspiracy theories ???
How do you account for Fox "news" and the success they have had ???
How do you account for the popularity of right wing radio ???
How do you account for The Prosperity Gospel ???
I rest my case.
NanceGreggs
(27,817 posts)... by the aforementioned persons and entities don't know they're being manipulated.
It's not that they love it - they are simply unaware of it.
targetpractice
(4,919 posts)... I do think it's like when a partner is discovered for cheating (for a long time) with hard evidence.
Roy Rolling
(6,928 posts)Squinch
(50,993 posts)because they are in on the joke. All those "I know what he is and I love him for it" people, I take them at their word. They love his ways because either he is making them richer, or they think he is owning the liberals.
Others have no idea and are just too dumb to see it. To them, he's the savior that is portrayed in those cringingly cheesy pictures.
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,817 posts)... "in on the joke" - the joke being that it's the libtards who are being manipulated, while they're the independent thinkers of the world.
Squinch
(50,993 posts)SamKnause
(13,110 posts)When they are confronted with facts and data they simply refuse to accept it.
They repeatedly revert to their cult mindset.
targetpractice
(4,919 posts)... that those in your examples don't realize they are being manipulated. They are just accepting things at face value.
I would think (hope) if Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity were caught on tape admitting they didn't believe in what they were saying, but doing it for money... That may shock some supporters from their complacency.
It's one thing to be blissfully unaware of being manipulted, but then be told by the manipulator, "Hey yeah, I've been lying to you"
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)and you continue to believe you love being manipulated.
Many simply refuse to accept facts and revert to their cult mindset.
targetpractice
(4,919 posts)I get what you are saying... Why do abused spouses stay with their partners? I doubt they love the situation, but fear of leaving somehow is worse than the status quo. But, I doubt it's love.
I imagine if someone has let themself be manipulated for such a long time... They are fearful and bewildered about how to transition out of it. But, I don't think loving it is part of it.
Maybe semantics.
overleft
(357 posts)follow the herd off the cliff to their death just to follow tRump's mandates.
KG
(28,752 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,033 posts)tRump squandered opportunities to squelch the virus so he could prop up the stock market, which is his go-to metaphor for the economy.
tRump used the protesters so he could push a law-and-order narrative for his campaign.
He uses his base even while he is contemptuous of them.
He uses the military as props while calling them losers.
So much more.
targetpractice
(4,919 posts)"Donald Trump doesn't serve you. He uses you."
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,033 posts)I dunno. I'm a twitter reader, not a user.
bucolic_frolic
(43,258 posts)It also requires personality to deceive people. Malignant narcissism comes in a wide array of degrees, so many of us have experienced it from relatives, bosses, salespeople, and public figures.
Yeehah
(4,589 posts)love to be manipulated. They love to be spoon-fed "news" and information that supports thier twisted world view. They make no effort to discover truth. They obey their TV.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Religion, pro sports, advertising, religion, reality tv, social media, religion, and, oh yeah, religion.
Roc2020
(1,616 posts)supporters 99.5% are voting for him because he represents the White Race. Screw Democracy. White race is what the election is about for them.
lonely bird
(1,687 posts)It is advertising. Imo, the overwhelming majority of people can be manipulated in some manner and at various different times. It depends upon the situation and the people involved as to how much manipulation and how many are manipulated. In point of opinion manipulation is foundational. It is necessary in the economy. It is necessary in almost every human interaction in degrees varying from extremely little to large. If you play to peoples vanities, their insecurities, their wishes and beliefs then you can manipulate them.
You have to keep this con even after you take his money. He cant know you took him. - Henry Gondorff.
idziak4ever1234
(1,257 posts)I think that still remains to be seen. People who hate Trump will only have their attitudes hardened. Those opposed will LIKELY say that it is a hit job and ignore it. It is that few people in a few battleground states who generally live in a select few counties that need to be moved.
Aristus
(66,446 posts)They'd eat their own shit if Trump manipulated them into it...
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)Blue Owl
(50,489 posts)They prey on the egos of the easily duped, all for their own self-serving glory...
targetpractice
(4,919 posts)Malignant narcissism requires the narcissist and enablers... The enablers also manipulate the narcissist... It's a grotesque cycle that requires many participants.
WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)Because they get their fantasies from the destruction of others.
Putin is laughing his ass off at how much they hate America.