Trump really screwed the pooch on this USPS thing.

[yellowcanine]

Now the stories about sorting machines being removed, blue boxes being removed, post office hours being cut have exploded and Trump will be blamed. As he should be. Aside from COVID and the economy woes, this is the biggest negative story of the 2020 election season. And it should seal his fate, because the dummy did the one thing which would hit rural America hard - wreck the Postal Service. I grew up in rural Pennsylvania on an RFD route. That stands for Rural Free Delivery. We knew the mailman personally and gave him Christmas presents. It is the same all over rural America. Yes UPS, FedEX and Amazon have cut into business. But rural people still highly depend on and trust the Postal Service. This one thing could finally sour some of the Trumpers on Trump. It is idiotic. I cannot figure it out.

More here on RFD
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Rural-Free-Delivery

[Beakybird]

1. Yup. You meant UPS where you put "USPS."

[yellowcanine]

44. Thanks. Fixed.

[brush]

2. UPS, FEDEX and Amazon all depend on USPS too. They can't and don't want to cover...

all the addresses in the nation like the Postal Service does.

[DallasNE]

33. Good Point

I have more experience with UPS and they deliver to the destination USPS facility and the postman then makes the final delivery. For one thing, UPS doesn't have a box to place the package in. The USPS does so that makes it very attractive for final destination to be handed off to the USPS carrier. Will those packages set there for 2-3 days before their turn comes up for delivery?

You can't fix stupid.

[HotTeaBag]

49. This seems to escape a lot of people.

The USPS is vital to all other delivery services.

[lame54]

3. I thought the bounties on our soldiers story was going to seal his fate...

You know
The one that never gets mentioned anymore even though it is only a couple months old

[Ilsa]

4. Another thing I caught on TRMS was that

the machines that are being removed are being trashed, thrown in dumpsters, etc. This is willful destruction of government property, taxpayers' property! How can they be replaced?

[dmr]

21. I actually gasped - loudly when I heard that!

Machines literally worth millions of dollars! In a trash heap and/or destroyed! That is fucking insane!

How much money is this costing the taxpayer?

As someone upthread mentioned they thought the Russian bounties on our soldiers would doom Donald. It unbelievably is not a big story. I don't understand that. But since the postal service affects us all, this might hurt him. Who knows?

[DallasNE]

34. I Suspect The We Will Hear About Much Of This In The Debates

Where Trump will be on the defensive a good deal of the time. The election commission insists they will choose the moderators and I hope that they choose well. Trump is also vulnerable on the issue of why he trusts Putin more than our own intelligence agencies.

[dmr]

41. Yes, I want an answer to that, but we'll never get an honest answer out of Donald.

The real answer is most likely in his convoluted banking and tax records.

But, also think Putin has the "goods" on Donald. I bet those "goods" are doozies. And, I want to know!

I can't even imagine what various foreign powers have on this man, and on Jared, too! I believe they both have revealed classified information to these powers. We already know Donald revealed info to the Russians while he met with them privately (and somewhat secretly) in the Oval Office. We only found out because the Russians revealed it (with pictures) to their news agency!

Do you have any idea who's on the Election Commission? I guess I could look it up tomorrow -- well, later today, lol.

[regnaD kciN]

5. Don't worry about the postal service...

...I’m sure their funding will be fully restored as soon as Trump is certified as the winner of the election. They’re an essential service, doncha know?

[TheFarseer]

45. Just like

He won’t make you repay the payroll tax cut if you re-elect him, he’ll stop fucking up everything if you re-elect him.

[abqtommy]

6. It's just tRUMP doing what he does best. What do we expect, that he'll begin acting like a

President? Way too late for that...

[Chili]

7. Ah - so that what that stands for

I always wondered. Mayberry RFD!

And not just rural postmen. I live in an old suburb, houses close to each other. My mailman has been delivering to my house for... crap, I can't even count the years. He used to get mad at my dogs, who of course barked like mad until he walked away ["see what we did Mom?! We chased him away again, he's gone!"]. The mailbox is right by the front door, barely have to open the screen door to collect it, so they were always close to him, especially in the summer. Eventually he just stopped coming onto the porch and just threw the mail up. I got pissed and went to the post office to complain, and apparently, they told him to put the damn mail into the box - they're barking from inside a locked door! Next time I saw him, we made the peace. Now, years later, he smiles and talks to my girls, waving at them, their tales wagging madly, but they're still barking . And now we talk all the time. I'd say it's been 10 years. I told him, hey we've got your back! We're going to vote that bastard out of office - I gotcha! He appreciated that.

[Cha]

8. Let's hope it all blows back in his

Fucking BlOATED ASSFACE.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

15. +1000

[judeling]

9. You are so right

This is different because it is a direct hit at his base's identity. Mayberry RFD. Older voters making their Xmas card lists.

This will make all of the rest worse. It is such a purely selfish move that the things they have endured to own the libs or support the country will be reevaluated. Maybe not consciously, but as a hook to make it all Democratic attacks more effective. Someone mentioned Bounties, Well now its bounties and the USPS for veterans, or the USPS and taking the funding for SS, or the USPS and the trade war.

And he did it at the height of campaign focus on the Democrats.

[radius777]

42. It also validates Dems' attempts to impeach him.

He's doing this in plain sight because he 'got away' with Russia-gate and Ukraine-gate and thinks he's invincible.

There will now be some voters who will 'see the light' since this is so easy to understand and affects them directly, unlike the other scandals.

[leftyladyfrommo]

10. I think Trump may have jumped the shark on this one.

They were only looking at the election. What they didn't see was that all 300 million plus Americans use the USPS on a daily basis. They like it and they need it


People are really pissed off. It is just exploding everywhere.

[lagomorph777]

13. kaBOOM!

[onetexan]

14. Openly trying to rig an election by sabotaging an essential institution of the country isn't a good

strategy for winning for sure. Dejoy will go down, and in 2 months the Crooked Con will too. Things are starting to unravel and he can't win this one. The entire country will make sure of that.

[Mr.Bill]

18. Trump will blame it all on the postmaster

and say he had nothing to do with it. And his base will believe every word of it.

And even though Trump said exactly what he intended to do, he will deny it. Won't be the first time he denied something he said multiple times on camera.

[onetexan]

22. Of course. Lying, blaming, obfuscating, bullying, demeaning others - all mob tactics

Only now the lying has become much more frequent. Yesterday when a Huffpost reporter S.V. Dáte asked him if he regrets all the lying he's done, he was so caught offguard that he quickly skipped to the next question to evade the question:
https://www.chron.com/local/article/Do-you-regret-at-all-all-the-lying-you-ve-15484037.php

"We are attacked on a near daily basis using Stalinist language. We are called corrupt and dishonest. We are given false information from staff who often know full well that it is false," Dáte wrote.

After the direct exchange with the president, Dáte tweeted this: "For five years, I've been wanting to ask him that."

[PatrickforO]

27. Yeah, it's looking like the beginning of the end for Donnie.

It's been like a walk through hell. It will literally take a decade to clean up the mess caused by his treasonous incompetent corrupt negligent....well, you all know. Shit.

And did you see - the dirtbag Dejoy actually invested millions in UPS stock. Before he became postmaster. Talk about telegraphing your intention to rip the USPS apart.

These people are nothing but wreckers - they don't give a hoot about governing us at all, just about power and money.

But the pendulum may be swinging back. I think Harris is going to be wonderful on the campaign trail. Tough, smart, and she'll take it to Trump and Pence and all the other dirt bags.

[grantcart]

20. He committed the ultimate political crime

He became a bore.


Everyone focuses on the low numbers @ Tulsa but they were bored and no energy.

He smells of desperation.


He has become the Willy Loman of American politics.


The person he is shooting on 5th Avenue is Donald Trump

[leftyladyfrommo]

25. Boy, I hope so.

he went too far with this one. Even his deplorables can't come up with an excuse for this one.

[OnDoutside]

29. For the next 80 odd days. If he had done this 30 days out, he might have

gotten clean away.

[TheFarseer]

46. There's no one thing

that will cause him to lose all his voters. But he lost some right wing postal workers here. He lost some right wing military people with the Russian bounty thing. He lost some right wing small business people with his handling of Coronavirus. Etc etc. It all adds up.

[Walleye]

11. And it reeks of corruption

[lagomorph777]

12. Yup - stealing people's mail pisses off EVERYBODY. What a fucking idiot.

[greenjar_01]

16. ***whispers*** We also know our mail carriers and give them holiday presents in the city ****

Just sayin'

[ChazInAz]

19. Yes, we do!

[NJCher]

32. I give mine

homegrown tomatoes and bunches of basil. Peppers, but no zucchinis!

[Lucky Luciano]

17. Ahhh, but this is a huge opportunity for the rural people...

...to own the libs yet again!! Owning the libs is priority number one!

[radius777]

43. Owning the libs:

[iluvtennis]

23. Thanks for the post - agree with you. (btw, thanks for the explanation of RFD for this city girl).

[PatrickforO]

24. I'm not thinking we have to worry about any October surprise. Trump is

busy shooting himself in the foot every single day.

[DallasNE]

28. Trump Has Been Screwing The Pooch With Rural America

For 3 1/2 years. His tariff's killed the market with China for grain farmers. But he diverted the tariff income to pay farmers a subsidy. Farmers hate government handouts. They want markets. And now this USPS debacle. Back in the mid/late 1950's farmers abandon the Republican party in droves. And it didn't hurt that Democrats brought Social Security to the aging farmers, like my father. Will that repeat?

[Captain Zero]

39. will farmers get their subsidy checks, due to market destruction if Trump destroys the post office ?

Seems like no farmer worth his John Deere would be voting for this slob.

[murielm99]

30. Our rural mail carriers are

our neighbors and friends. We know each other. If something is wrong, if an elderly person or a family needs help, they are often the first to pick up on it.

Most of them are Democrats, too, even out in the boonies.

[SiliconValley_Dem]

31. yep. just like grab em by the pussy sank him

and refusing to release his tax returns hurt him
and maligning good star family and Latino judges hurt him

just lime Mueller investigationof Russian collusion and obstruction of justice hurt him

[StocktonNative]

35. Things aren't over with the Post Office Debacle

The House needs to immediately hold hearing with Dejoy and USPS officials explaining why and how they will fix this mess.

[jorgevlorgan]

36. Dont count your chickens yet.

He has a way of always getting away with this shit once the stories blow over. Which is why these actions need to be reversed immediately if we want this to end in any well

[Beartracks]

37. Are enough people actually aware so as to have the pooch get screwed?

Saw a DU post earlier where someone said even their mailman wasn't aware of what was going on.

I hope this news reaches more than just us political junkies.

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[oasis]

38. There will be no rebounding from this one. That's it for his sorry ass. nt

[Demovictory9]

40. faux news will make sure his base don't even know about the allegations

[leftyladyfrommo]

47. This is all over the Neighborhood sites.

The Trumpers don't have anyway to spin this one.

They are trying to say the PO has been a mess for years but it isn't flying.

[drmeow]

48. Trump has lived in NYC his whole life

he doesn't get why the post office should or could be important to anyone. He doesn't understand anything but urban, and maybe suburban, environments. His buddy wanted a chance to destroy the post office and he saw a chance to steal the election - win/win.