Bill Maher is a fucking idiot. Spewing that the young don't have a problem with the virus. What

[still_one]

Maher seems to be missing the small detail that THEY ARE SPREADERS

This is almost as insane as when he was promoting that goat milk doctor cures AIDS

So he has a fox sports jackass pushing how the media is over reacting about Covid, and Maher says amen

I haven’t watched Maher for sometime now, and now I remember why

The crazy assed bullshit medical advice he periodically gives

I am not sure what he was trying to say when he said slave owners were a product of their times? Was he trying to justify slavery? Just absurd

There were enough people who knew the immorality of slavery

[uponit7771]

1. He's going to regret that

[PatSeg]

2. He's been getting worse for quite awhile

especially since the pandemic. I haven't seen his show in over a month and I think I'm done with him. I've been watching Maher since the days of Politically Incorrect, but it appears his best days are behind him.

This crap about young people is ridiculous. They are spreaders and we don't know yet what the long term effects of the virus are. Meanwhile, for those who have lost a child, it is cruel and irresponsible to publicly broadcast that young people are unaffected by the virus.

[still_one]

5. and I don't know what he was trying to say when he said people who had slaves were a product of

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their times

Guess what Bill, people back then realized slavery was wrong. Product of their times is no excuse

They can use that excuse to justify anything

Really disappointing

[PatSeg]

13. I wonder if the quarantine is getting to him

Maybe too much time home alone. It seems to be bringing the worst out in him. I usually like that he will say things that other people are afraid to say, but now he's venturing into nutty territory. I am not sure what audience he thinks he is appealing to, but I wouldn't be surprised to hear some Trump supporter quoting him one day.

I wonder how much longer he'll have an HBO show.

[still_one]

24. Actually, that's an interesting possibility

[brush]

23. He's lost it. He's gotten to be like Kanye West in that he says things for attention and...

to be controversial, to get a rise out of people and hope they repeat it. West has said enslavement was voluntary and Harriette Tubman took slaves and sold them to other slave holders—just ridiculous stuff.

West is crazy. I didn't think Maher was but repeating that old excuse that slave holders were men of their times is so bogus, maybe he's losing it too. Guess he forgot about the abolitionists who existed in slave holders times.

Maher might as well have said "a president who holds kids in cages is a product of his time." Ridiculous.

Now he'll have to contribute another million to Biden's campaign to smooth it over, like he did to the Obama campaign.

[still_one]

25. Attention getting is right. I think he jumped the shark tonight

[brush]

28. Yes. He'll probably walk it back quietly next week as his show starts.

[radius777]

35. He's always had alt-right (or alt-left) elements to his worldview, remember Coulter

got popular by being on his show. And iirc he's friends with Bari Weiss.

He's your typical alt-Bro who resents anyone telling a white man what to do.

It's true that most people are a product of their times and we need to view historical figures in that context. But the point of this moment and our reckoning around race and gender issues now is that if we fail to correct the sins of past then systemic injustices remain baked into the system. So it's not about the past as much as it's about what we do now.

For example, confederate statues must be removed as they stand as current symbols of white supremacy. They need to be in museums where we can understand them in their proper historical context.

[PatSeg]

38. Well for a very long time

he identified as a Libertarian, which has become an alt-asshole party and rather explains his self-absorbed personality. He only started calling himself a liberal when Bush was in office. Before that, he was critical and antagonistic toward both Democrats and republicans. He didn't have much good to say about either party. The corruption and deceit of the republican party seemed to have woke him up, though he probably wasn't alone in that.

I will give him credit for evolving, many people did, but apparently the old smug, self-absorbed aspect of his personality has lingered.

[Music Man]

3. I love Maher, but that interview was not his finest moment.

He kept drawing comparisons to WWII, saying that people played sports through it. "We are can do people," he said.

There is no comparison to a physical war being fought overseas and an invisible virus infecting our population. What do you bet if the Nazis had been in the streets of America, there wouldn't have been a hell of a lot of football games happening?

[Maru Kitteh]

32. You love him?

He's occasionally witty and artful snark is enjoyable but love ? Yeah. I don't understand that at all.

[Music Man]

39. Yes, he's a great comedian and a Democrat at heart.

He may be critical of our side, and does say some ill-informed things from a place of...whatever...but he's essentially one of us, and his bits are funny. There's a reason he's had the long comedy career he has.

Besides, to each their own, right? I'll love whom I want

[BannonsLiver]

4. Sadly he's lost his fastball

I’ve seen him live multiple times going back to 1998 and maintain an HBO subscription largely for the purpose of watching his show.

There are a lot of things that I don’t like, such as his constant embrace of the Dems is disarray narrative and the near constant refrain of how did we get here with Biden as the nominee.

He’s also often wrong, especially when talking about polling. There seems to be a near constant failure from whoever does the research to use fresh polling or to correctly frame that polling. Tonight he said Hillary was out performing Biden at this time in 2016. That’s not true, and has been covered on 538 and Harry Enten on CNN and many others extensively.

The segment with Cowherd was embarrassing. After 5 months it’s pretty clear that Bill just doesn’t understand this virus.

I’ll keep watching mostly because of the guests. But it’s not the same show anymore and Bill’s not the same guy. He’s morphed into my dad.

[still_one]

6. Mayor Pete, Yang, and Bottoms were great

[BannonsLiver]

7. She was great

The other interviews were fine, when Bill wasn’t talking.

[still_one]

8. Absolutely. Mayor Bottoms is always excellent

[BannonsLiver]

17. BTW

ThNks for starting this thread. I wanted an outlet to vent but didn’t want to be the first to do an OP.

[still_one]

21. We are on the same page

[Cha]

10. If he had paid attention he would know how

we are here with Joe Biden. Who the hell did he want?

[BannonsLiver]

16. "Someone more..."

Depends on the week.

[Cha]

20. The People voted for Joe Biden.. Democracy VS

Bill Maher.

Does no good to whine now.. Not helping Anyone. Except the Treasonous Hell Monster.

[Cha]

9. Hasn't he read the reports of all the kids who are

getting the trump virus & many are dying from it?

Take the Georgia summer camp for instance..

Hundreds of Georgia campers infected with coronavirus at YMCA camp in just days, CDC report finds

According to the report, of the 597 residents who attended the camp, 344 were tested and 260 tested positive for the virus. The camp was only open for four days before being shut down because of the virus, and officials followed all recommended safety protocols.

In total, the virus attacked 44% of the children, staff members and trainees who attended the camp

The CDC said that what happened at High Harbor shows that earlier thinking that children might not be as susceptible to COVID-19 is wrong. According to the report, the age group with the most positive coronavirus tests was 6 - 10 years old.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142550904

I hate it when anyone says it's "overblown". trump 'caused it to be OVERBLOWN. by calling it a "democrat hoax" for 70 days.

That's WHY People have to Be so GD CAREFUL NOW. 😷😷😷😷😷

[still_one]

11. It was crazy talk Cha. I though I was watching trump's new doctor, Atlas, who is spewing the

same junk science

Not only can they get very sick themselves, they are spreaders

Not surprising from some of his crap from the past, but disappointing that he is essentially pushing trump science, which is no science

[Cha]

14. That's really too bad & dangerously disappointing.

We need people with bullhorns to be informed and talking about the reality of the trump Virus.. not spreading false information.

Our very lives are at stake.

[BannonsLiver]

18. It is very disappointing for sure, Cha

[NCDem47]

12. I stopped watching when he came back from last break.

His take on COVID-19 is out there and he’s lost me. Talk about whiny bitches!

[Elwood P Dowd]

15. He had Colon Cowturd from Fox Sports on probably.

I didn't even bother to watch because I thought that was to be his main guest.

[still_one]

22. That's it. It was anti-science blathering

[misanthrope]

19. Yeah, his grasp of science is often flawed to weak

and he seems to know little to nothing of immunology or how this virus works. How science educator Cara Santa Maria was able to stand dating then living with him for two years, I don't know.

[still_one]

26. It sure is flawed

[MustLoveBeagles]

27. I didn't always agree with him but always respected his intellect

He never struck me as a science denier. Hearing this is really disappointing. I haven't seen his show in quite a while and it sounds like I haven't been missing anything.

[still_one]

29. I imagine there will be a youtube excerpt of it soon enough where you can judge for yourself

[MustLoveBeagles]

30. I'll keep an eye out for it

[Behind the Aegis]

31. When it comes to anything medical, he really should keep his mouth closed.

I like him, most of the time and don't expect him to be some goddamned paragon of virtue, but when medical issues abound, he usually misses the mark.

As for the "product of their times", that is what many were. He was wrong in claiming no one was against slavery, there were those against it for as long as it has existed in one form or another. However, the crux of the monologue was people need to get the fuck over themselves with "atoning" for every "sin" of the past, including those they didn't commit. He was also speaking to those "holier than thou" assholes who scream, stamp their feet, and shake their fists about how they couldn't have owned slaves, or aided the Nazis, or pushed Native Americans off their land. They are no different than historical revisionists in many respects. They take a modern, and mostly common, stance, and pretend they would have been the same person they are today even if they were born in 1820. While it is true, some here may not have wanted to own slaves, or been abolitionists, or stood up to the powers that be, but more often than not, they would have, possibly, looked like the liberals and progressives OF THE TIME, not of OUR time, and trust me, those "liberals" would NOT be liberals, for the most part, today. That is the point; though, IMO, he worded it in such a way that was convoluted and distracting.

[still_one]

33. BTA we agree 100% on the medical advice, and your description of his "product of our times" final

word was a more objective description than I presented, but my problem was that his point of people going overboard on their criticism of people of the past being a product of their times, is not only too simplistic, it is too easy to use that excuse to justify almost anything, and a line has to be drawn on some things

Convoluted is a good description, because it is a difficult point to articulate

[ecstatic]

34. Thanks for the warning. I had considered watching tonight's episode

after having written him off a few months ago (for the umpteenth time, lol). The #FlyFreeWhineyLittleBitch clip was hilarious, but based on your summary, I think I'll pass.

He needs to retire. He's just a bitter, cranky whiner now, which is crazy since he correctly goes after trump for his whining!

[still_one]

36. The guests he had on were excellent except for the fox sports guest at the end, who is another

anti-science wackco

[Trumpocalypse]

37. Maher makes most of his money doing stand up

The lock down has substantially cut his income. So like any greedy old white guy he is putting his lust for money before people’s lives.