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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
1. Right! I was expecting him to say that, when instead he threw me with state UI
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 05:58 PM
Aug 2020

Which screws gig workers far as I can tell

BamaRefugee

(3,488 posts)
4. For the first time ever, California is giving UI to gig workers, BUT: you report your NET income,
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:06 PM
Aug 2020

which for me, due to 2 major surgeries and lots of lost work was very low, so I get $167 a week!
As long as you get at least $1 in UI from the state, you also got the Fed money. BUT, if you worked at all, you have to report your GROSS, and then they subtract that from your UI payment, even though what you report is far far from what was actually left for you after expenses.
So if I make $168 in a week I then LOSE all the Fed money, it's impossible to exist on $167!

BamaRefugee

(3,488 posts)
5. But payroll tax is on the EMPLOYER, isn't it? so no idea how he thinks this helps actual workers,but
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:09 PM
Aug 2020

then again his bootlickers won't have a clue, and will think there won't be ANY taxes taken out of their paychecks.

if they're even getting paychecks.

LiberalFighter

(51,299 posts)
13. Not all of it.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:50 PM
Aug 2020

Part is taken out of employee and part from employer.

It is intended to destroy Social Security and Medicare. They will have to reduce Social Security later when it is being depleted and increase Medicare monthly premiums at a faster rate.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
3. shithole does not have the money and Americans sure don't want him to have
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:06 PM
Aug 2020

any authority to request it from the treasury.

It's all a smoke scene. And there is no $1,200 stimulus check . .

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
7. Right, I think he signed a thing he's not constitutionally allowed to do
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:11 PM
Aug 2020

So he won’t have to pay anything but still seem like a good guy

Freethinker65

(10,105 posts)
6. Payroll tax deduction.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:10 PM
Aug 2020

FICA pays for Social Security and Medicare. It is a percentage of your earnings typically your employer pays to fund those social programs.

As I understand it, by suspending the tax, that money can either be paid to employee as wages, or pocketed by employer. Any guess how many employees will see any of it?

Also, it is proposed as a suspension, which means it would need to be eventually paid back. Pretty sure they will decide, nah, let's just starve those social programs that help people we dislike instead. Keep the money, if you got it, as your stimulus. Of course, you need to be employed with an employer that passes on the $$ to "benefit" now from your future reduction in Social Security/Medicare.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,435 posts)
8. SS and Medicare are split between employee and employer
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:17 PM
Aug 2020

The total is 15.3%, half is deducted from the employee check, then the employer matches the withheld amounts when sending in the payment.

So the employer would keep their half, and the employee would no longer have the amounts withheld.

This would severely undermine SS & Medicare, and does nothing for the unemployed, who need the most help. And if, as some said, it's not a waiving of the tax but instead a temporary suspension of paying and collecting, then everyone (employee and employer) gets a massive tax bill in a few months.

Fuck tRump.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
11. I'm pretty sure Medcaid would be in that number .....
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:24 PM
Aug 2020

Many rural areas rely on Medicaid and a few red states have expanded the program. This would hurt many states.

tritsofme

(17,435 posts)
12. He might be able to cobble funds together to keep UI going, but he has nowhere near the funds
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:25 PM
Aug 2020

to drive another stimulus check program without Congress.

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