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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAmericans are all living the Republican dream now: Paul Krugman for the NYTimes
You see, the modern U.S. right is committed to the proposition that greed is good, that were all better off when individuals engage in the untrammeled pursuit of self-interest. In their vision, unrestricted profit maximization by businesses and unregulated consumer choice is the recipe for a good society.
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The idea of a collective responsibilityof a social compact between Americans-- was always, implicitly, poisonous to that shiny, conservative ideal. And it has manifested itself in ways that we have seen unfolding during the course of this horrid pandemic, as conservative attitudes have been exposed and highlighted under the harsh glare of reality:
This rage is sometimes portrayed as love of freedom. But people who insist on the right to pollute are notably unbothered by, say, federal agents tear-gassing peaceful protesters. What they call freedom is actually absence of responsibility.
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Everything theyve believed and lived, oblivious or indifferent to the harm it caused, for decades, is now at mortal risk. And they would rather die than see the entirety of their prior existence trivialized, or worse, completely discredited.
The point, instead, is that theyve sacralized selfishness, hurting their own political prospects by insisting on the right to act selfishly even when it hurts others.
What the coronavirus has revealed is the power of Americas cult of selfishness. And this cult is killing us.
[link:https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/27/1964368/-We-re-all-living-the-Republican-dream-right-now-Do-you-like-it|]
Emphasis mine
Late stage capitalism run rampant presenting as a death cult. Who woulda thunk it?!?!
mahina
(17,653 posts)flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)leighbythesea2
(1,200 posts)A 100 times
calimary
(81,265 posts)gordianot
(15,238 posts)Without serious repercussions from his Party it is safe to say something is seriously wrong. Just another canary in the Coal Mine.
jaxexpat
(6,828 posts)Also, who's going to clean those cages? In that spirit they have removed them along with any other resource wastefully installed to ensure worker safety in their mines. We must all be willing to sacrifice and not count on little birds to do that for us.
Until the rapture comes, proving their point, you are instructed to ignore your lying eyes. Worker casualties are a necessary evil.
johnnyfins
(823 posts)Who gives a shit where he went to school. Fuck him and his racist bullshit.
TheRickles
(2,063 posts)Alacritous Crier
(3,816 posts)"the Founders viewed slavery as a necessary evil"
Of course he was actually referring to the Founder brothers, Doug and Joey...
TheRickles
(2,063 posts)But where, actually, did the Founding Fathers (not the Founding Brothers!) make a comment about slavery being a "necessary evil"?
leighbythesea2
(1,200 posts)From the depression and dustbowl era. Need to look.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)Heh. Talking far right nasty racist bollocks is their ball sucking tea bagger duty. I cannot find where they said that, to be fair they may have thought it - the slave owners anyway - but no evidence that it was recorded anywhere.
Dan
(3,562 posts)Interesting brothers...
soldierant
(6,871 posts)produces a caption in Cyrillic
Alacritous Crier
(3,816 posts)when you Google "inbreds" that's the photo that comes up.
Dan
(3,562 posts)TheRickles
(2,063 posts)His name is Roger Ballen, and this photo is of twin brothers from South Africa:
https://publicdelivery.org/roger-ballen-twins/
certainot
(9,090 posts)dominating messaging and democrats have ignored it so comprehensively they might as well be studying fish without water
we can't have a fact-based national discussion about anything without it being polluted by lies and disinformation from those radio stations - completely ignored by the left.
and then we blame symptoms like social media and fox and wonder why
trump coordinated COVID denial with limbaugh/1500 radio stations and could trump/putin not have created this disaster without him and that is all dems needed to know to end this crap
yardwork
(61,608 posts)Listening to hate radio for decades changed people in my family. They turned from liberal Democrats to angry right wingers. They became more racist than they had been before.
certainot
(9,090 posts)so it's out of sight.
limbaugh and sons are repulsive liars and hurt thinking people's heads
left buys into the RW propaganda that a 95% monopoly somehow reflects demand for hate ignorance and suicidal stupidity
and americans have this really dumbass idea that people listen to what they want, all have access to all sources of information, and its just free speech. so what if it's the only free easy source for politics in most parts of 40 + states while driving and working, we can all just get a good job and buy the tech we need, go to the library, buy some books, etc
democrats keep saying the right exist in a bubble and alternative universe - so do democrats and the left if they think they can keep ignoring it
i can think of a few more
Beartracks
(12,814 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I agree completely and this is why I supported Andrew Yang. He understood and put into a policy platform what I had long believed but was unable to really put into words.
We have been measuring the state of our society incorrectly for far too long.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Places like Norway and New Zealand are more appropriately called late stage (advanced) capitalism.
Capitalism, per se, is not the problem. Deregulation is perhaps the biggest part of the problem. Citizens United ruling is part of the problem.
I don't see Krugman calling tRump-Republicon America "late stage capitalism".
jaxexpat
(6,828 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)US has a very different selfish style of money grabbing bastards than the rest of the west, there is always some socialism in the EU. Some things than mitigate the harshness of the end stage american death cult.
tclambert
(11,086 posts)Once driverless trucks force all the truck drivers into unemployment, and shelf stocking robots replace the workers in stores, we may see people completely unable to find jobs, no matter how hard they try. How do people live then, when they can't trade work for money? Cue Andrew Yang.
Dan
(3,562 posts)Crime.
appalachiablue
(41,131 posts)Solly Mack
(90,767 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)With far more far more knowledge & elequence!
2naSalit
(86,611 posts)What does K&R represent?
2naSalit
(86,611 posts)Like clicking the "rec" button in the original post (OP).
Welcome to DU!
Check this page for more helpful info:
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to all of you that replied!
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)calimary
(81,265 posts)I had to have it explained to me, too, when I first found my way here.
Glad youre here, too!
Beausoleil
(2,843 posts)This is right-wing utopia.
What is all the complaining and crying from the right all about?
They have pushed right-wing extremism for 40 years and we are at the epitome of their desires.
Why aren't they as happy as pigs in sh*t now? Or will they only be happy when we're all dead?
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)through their representatives, or by their own manner of living and consuming.
lindysalsagal
(20,684 posts)Holds the reins of the controls for the benefit of non-American corporations. They sold us all like slaves to Putin and any other gangsters who keep them in office.
As Hamilton said: "corruption is such an old song we can all song along in harmony."
crickets
(25,979 posts)moondust
(19,981 posts)"cult of selfishness" indeed. Donny "MeMeMeMeMe" the Dumpster is the logical result of it.
Blue Owl
(50,373 posts)Just like we knew it would be...
skypilot
(8,854 posts)...be my response in this thread.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)That will do it
rwsanders
(2,603 posts)snuff it out, we are doomed.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)FREEDOM!!!!
Hekate
(90,683 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,194 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
I have serious issues with the never trumpers, but they can wait until democracy is saved.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)"What they call freedom is actually absence of responsibility."
I am absolutely going to start using that. It's brilliant in its simplicity
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)It sure sucks ass now. Definitely the dream of the repiggies.
dchill
(38,492 posts)elleng
(130,905 posts)BootinUp
(47,145 posts)dlk
(11,566 posts)The Republican dream is much like one of an immature adolescent - selfishness combined with complete lack of responsibility and compassion for others. They will never grow up and so were long overdue for the adults taking away the car keys.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)Mike Niendorff
(3,461 posts)Great piece by Krugman.
Simply outstanding.
MDN
burrowowl
(17,641 posts)PatSeg
(47,430 posts)Few people explain things so well.